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zappaisgod
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: nanomagnetic]
#13872016 - 01/29/11 04:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Text. Try it.
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HippieChick8
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: RationalEgo]
#13877029 - 01/30/11 02:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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RationalEgo said: Corporations produce goods and services that people want and pay good money for that the majority of customers earned through their own productive activity.
Parasites don't produce ANYTHING but expect and advocate for the government to provide goods and services by thieving capital off of those who produce.
Who is moral? The productive individuals within a corporation?
Or the leech that produces nothing and takes by means of government force?
I produce food AND work for a community college. What do YOU do that is useful?
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: RationalEgo]
#13906438 - 02/04/11 05:27 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I browse this politics subforum on occasion, and really the name calling here is ridiculous. How is calling everyone you disagree with "half wit leftists" even close to ok? (This applies to both people insulting republicans and people insulting democrats, this post just seemed a fitting example for the point)
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zappaisgod
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Jacks]
#13906454 - 02/04/11 05:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Insulting a general group is OK. Blatantly insulting individual posters is not (sometimes you can slip in a sly dig although I would never stoop to such a thing )
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
#13906469 - 02/04/11 05:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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it may be within the rules, but it seems counter productive to intelligent debate to call whoever you are arguing with "scum sucking liberals" or "racist tea party retards". Eh, back to lurking on mushroom cult I guess
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Jacks]
#13906484 - 02/04/11 05:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't be such a weenie. Just kidding. Hey, political debate is a contact sport. This aint the fucking Pub, thank zappa.
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
#13906565 - 02/04/11 05:55 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Insulting a general group is OK. Blatantly insulting individual posters is not (sometimes you can slip in a sly dig although I would never stoop to such a thing )
Of course a person of your highbrow culture and breeding would NEVER stoop to such a base and common practice as insulting a fellow Shroomerite!
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: HippieChick8]
#13906581 - 02/04/11 05:57 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've made it into an art form.
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
#13910283 - 02/05/11 01:00 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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wasn't "sly digs" the whole reason for our earlier exchange, or are you still in denial on that one?
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zappaisgod
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: nanomagnetic]
#13910300 - 02/05/11 01:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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nanomagnetic said: wasn't "sly digs" the whole reason for our earlier exchange, or are you still in denial on that one?
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Jacks]
#13910689 - 02/05/11 02:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jacks said: I browse this politics subforum on occasion, and really the name calling here is ridiculous. How is calling everyone you disagree with "half wit leftists" even close to ok? (This applies to both people insulting republicans and people insulting democrats, this post just seemed a fitting example for the point)
Zappa basically covered it, though I doubt "hal wit leftists" are even close to 'everyone you [he] disagree[s] with'.
Basically I agree with zappa: don't be such a weenie. You can run off to mush cult or wherever, though we don't need your announcement, or you can deal with the disagreement and people you may or may not care for.
The rules are always open to revision, but the alternative to not allowing some play in them is to require a rigid discussion that few would seem able to confine themselves too and that would be kind of a pain in the ass in anyways.
Anyways, zappa can come off as kind of a prick to the uninitiated, don't let it get to you.
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: johnm214]
#13910969 - 02/05/11 03:29 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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that philosophy bro website is pretty good, looked at the other articles
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: johnm214]
#13943193 - 02/11/11 12:55 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Regardless, I agree with Jacks. The non-technical forums here are completely worthless.
FACT: You can't have a reasonable discussion with people when you're not face to face. Too many people living in fantasy land = Death of repect.
And calling someone a weenie is a direct attack - way to go Mod. (Oh, but I said "don't be a weenie" - that wasn't calling him one. Right...)
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zappaisgod
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Joe Joe]
#13944229 - 02/11/11 08:53 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I disagree 100% about that face to face crap. In face to face discussions you can't do research and you can't link to evidence to support your assertions. Everything in a face to face discussion is an unsupported assertion.
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
#13966528 - 02/15/11 09:30 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: In face to face discussions you can't do research and you can't link to evidence to support your assertions. Everything in a face to face discussion is an unsupported assertion.
Meh.
I'd rather take the face to face - you are 'found out' in a hurry that way whether you know your shit or not.
To me it beats this plague of thread scholar of the minute fly by professors who post out of context links that they 'expertly' claim as proof of their jibberishly thatched together position.
More often than not I've found people use their google skills as a crutch and cloak for a true understanding of the issues.
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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Noetical]
#13966770 - 02/15/11 10:34 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Noetical said:
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zappaisgod said: In face to face discussions you can't do research and you can't link to evidence to support your assertions. Everything in a face to face discussion is an unsupported assertion.
Meh.
I'd rather take the face to face - you are 'found out' in a hurry that way whether you know your shit or not.
Bullshit. It is, in fact, the easiest way to bluff your way through.Quote:
To me it beats this plague of thread scholar of the minute fly by professors who post out of context links that they 'expertly' claim as proof of their jibberishly thatched together position.
Which is why you should 1. Actually read their links and 2. Do your own research to refuteQuote:
More often than not I've found people use their google skills as a crutch and cloak for a true understanding of the issues.
More often than not aggressive and assertive bullshit artists prevail in face to face without having any semblance of facts on their side.
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