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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13859518 - 01/27/11 11:58 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

OTOH..the bums who do pay taxes just mooched the taxpayers out of $2 trillion in bailouts...thats *corporate welfare*...regular welfare..which the right believes is a grave moral offense..doesnt even come close to that...

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13859760 - 01/27/11 12:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Hey sweetheart you're a little bit behind the times.  The banks returned a profit to the taxpayer.  AIG is on pace to and the only entities still fucking the taxpayer are the government/union owned car companies that were confiscated from their rightful owners and creditors and the government agencies Fannie and Freddie.

You are not entitled to your own facts.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13860067 - 01/27/11 01:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

even if that is true (which i doubt).. theres still over a $1 trillion in corporate welfare thats going to the military-prison-industrial complex.. or do you really think that north korea is as dangerous as the USSR was.. or that a couple of joints justifies a half million worth of gravy to CCA/wackenhut...


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13860079 - 01/27/11 01:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I think there are a lot of dangerous countries.  In fact I think there is more potential for bloodshed now than during the cold war and that will only increase as our power decreases.  Weakness only encourages thugs.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13860212 - 01/27/11 02:02 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:lol: panhandling for more corporate welfare..are we??...

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13860292 - 01/27/11 02:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:rofl2:Buying things that corporations produce is not welfare.  Speaking of cronyism:

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/140533-hhs-grants-new-reform-waivers-amid-heightened-scrutiny
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A week after Republicans announced plans to investigate waivers granted to organizations for healthcare reform provisions, President Obama’s health department made public new waivers for more than 500 groups.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) is granting temporary waivers to organizations that would not be able to meet the reform law’s new requirement for annual coverage limits.




That's 500 new ones on top of the 200+ already granted to favored entities, including phonies like these assholes:

http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2010/10/08/union-pushes-for-obamacare-then-is-granted-waiver/

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The irony would be humorous if it weren’t so sad: The United Federation of Teachers, the New York City branch of the American Federation of Teachers, which pushed ardently for ObamaCare has now requested – and received – a waiver from its mandates.

The UFT is a member of New York State United Teachers (NYSUT).  In September 2009, the NYSUT’s website published “Health care reform: facts vs. myths.” Here’s an excerpt:

    * Myth: Health care reform will force you out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.
    * Fact: You can keep your existing insurance; reform will expand your medical options, not eliminate them.

ObamaCare was such a great idea at the time - the AFT gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to Healthcare for America Now, the leading organization pushing for the government takeover of health care.

It was announced Thursday that the UFT has requested and received an Obamacare-waiver after it discovered their members would end up losing their health insurance plans.  Uh oh.




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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13860669 - 01/27/11 03:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

it is if we dont need to buy it...OK..so the norks might mount a bomb that doesnt explode on a rocket that cant fly...but that hardly justifies spending billions of $$$ on costly weapons systems of questionable effectiveness...


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13860783 - 01/27/11 03:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You  would be correct if the Norks and the US were the only countries in the world.  But they aren't so you aren't.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13862016 - 01/27/11 06:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

in that case..what countries and what threats are you talking about??...im fully aware that theres dozens of north koreas in the world...but a dozen times nothing is still nothing ..even iran was brought down with a simple computer virus.. and the best the russians can do is a catherine wheel ..



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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13862444 - 01/27/11 08:00 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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in that case..what countries and what threats are you talking about??...im fully aware that theres dozens of north koreas in the world...but a dozen times nothing is still nothing ..even iran was brought down with a simple computer virus.. and the best the russians can do is a catherine wheel ..





Iran has by no means been 'brought down' by that ingenious virus, but it has been stopped temporarily, which is an excellent thing and I applaud those men of genius who created that virus.

These countries who are ideological enemies of the West and particularly America that seek out weapons of mass destruction to threaten and ultimately use against are by no means 'nothing' states that pose no threat.

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: RationalEgo]
    #13862620 - 01/27/11 08:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

thats what they told us in iraq...sorry but were not falling for that one twice...

Edited by Annapurna1 (01/27/11 08:58 PM)

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13865122 - 01/28/11 09:50 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

From what I read, you implied that by paying taxes working individuals and companies can't cheat the system. And that nonworking individuals can only cheat the system.

That's a pretty false dichotonomy.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: nanomagnetic]
    #13865136 - 01/28/11 09:53 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Try reading just exactly what I write instead of struggling to invent something else.  I tend to be quite precise.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13869941 - 01/29/11 08:29 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Annapurna1 said:
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lonestar2004 said:
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I bet you don't even work either. A little leftist parasite, amiright?




i bet you a $100 bucks that shes on the doll.

some type of "Disability"




as if corporate welfare cheats (aka randroids) arent on the "doll"...your nothing but a bunch of hippocrytes...



Tell us again why corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums who do nothing aren't.




I re-read it. I stand by my analysis.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: nanomagnetic]
    #13869974 - 01/29/11 08:46 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You can stand anywhere you want.  You will note the word "and" in the sentence.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13871317 - 01/29/11 02:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I think I'm still seeing it right. You're asking for an explanation for the statement:

Quote:

Corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums who do nothing aren't.




And your tone suggests a lot things, but mostly that you believe the statement is false. Which, if you give me a moment to bash more of my intuitive reactions into a logical shapes :confused:, led me to invert your conditionals:

Quote:

Corporations that pay taxes are not "cheats" and bums who do nothing are.




Oh wait! Now I see it. You made an indirect insult:

Quote:

Tell us again why corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums (like you, Annapurna1) who do nothing aren't.




It's goofy trying to tease that out. You're writing is so oblique, and you let the context go unspoken when called on it. I no longer stand by my analysis. It's not a dichotomy, it's ad hominemic.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: nanomagnetic]
    #13871503 - 01/29/11 03:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I think I'm still seeing it right. You're asking for an explanation for the statement:

Quote:

Corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums who do nothing aren't.




And your tone suggests a lot things, but mostly that you believe the statement is false. Which, if you give me a moment to bash more of my intuitive reactions into a logical shapes :confused:, led me to invert your conditionals:

Quote:

Corporations that pay taxes are not "cheats" and bums who do nothing are.




Oh wait! Now I see it. You made an indirect insult:

Quote:

Tell us again why corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums (like you, Annapurna1) who do nothing aren't.




It's goofy trying to tease that out. You're writing is so oblique, and you let the context go unspoken when called on it. I no longer stand by my analysis. It's not a dichotomy, it's ad hominemic.



:facepalm:

Still searching, grasshopper?  I wasn't asking for an explanation of my own sentence.:rofl2:  And you still can't stop mutating it.  Pathetic.  Go away.  Get a job.  Pay taxes.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13871569 - 01/29/11 03:36 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Quote:

nanomagnetic said:
I think I'm still seeing it right. You're asking for an explanation for the statement:

Quote:

Corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums who do nothing aren't.




And your tone suggests a lot things, but mostly that you believe the statement is false. Which, if you give me a moment to bash more of my intuitive reactions into a logical shapes :confused:, led me to invert your conditionals:

Quote:

Corporations that pay taxes are not "cheats" and bums who do nothing are.




Oh wait! Now I see it. You made an indirect insult:

Quote:

Tell us again why corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums (like you, Annapurna1) who do nothing aren't.




It's goofy trying to tease that out. You're writing is so oblique, and you let the context go unspoken when called on it. I no longer stand by my analysis. It's not a dichotomy, it's ad hominemic.



:facepalm:

Still searching, grasshopper?  I wasn't asking for an explanation of my own sentence.:rofl2:  And you still can't stop mutating it.  Pathetic.  Go away.  Get a job.  Pay taxes.





It's the weekend. I'l work when I have to work.

And when I say that you "were asking for an explanation" you do realize that I was speaking analytically -- right in the midsts of cutting through the intrigue of nested quotes? There's more to the thought-process than the one cherry-picked statement there.

There's context, and on cue you're ignoring it. Fascinating  :strokebeard:


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: nanomagnetic]
    #13871594 - 01/29/11 03:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Actually what there is is text.  And you're ignoring it.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13871746 - 01/29/11 04:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Actually what there is is text.  And you're ignoring it.




Hm, the work of sloppy fingers or a master troll? :strokebeard: [clearly my new favorite smiley]


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