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OfflineMajor_Buzz
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Can I get a catus I.D.
    #1383795 - 03/17/03 09:56 AM (21 years, 17 days ago)

bought this at the local garden store. Looks alot like what I imagine a trichocereus peruvianus to look like. Whadya think?


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Re: Can I get a catus I.D. [Re: Major_Buzz]
    #1384088 - 03/17/03 11:08 AM (21 years, 17 days ago)

very cool man, i also have some of those!
i don't know for sure. but it's spines and it's ribs look pretty trichy...
i'm no expert but i think it might be t. peru, t. cuzcoensis or stetsonia coryne...

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Re: Can I get a catus I.D. [Re: felixhigh]
    #1386832 - 03/18/03 04:38 AM (21 years, 16 days ago)

Hi Felix,
Here is a closer shot, where you can see the "V" notches above the aeriolae. From what I have read this is a classic P. Torch trait.


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Re: Can I get a catus I.D. [Re: Major_Buzz]
    #1386862 - 03/18/03 04:46 AM (21 years, 16 days ago)

It looks to me like a Mexican Toothpick cactus.


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Re: Can I get a catus I.D. [Re: AJ420]
    #1387741 - 03/18/03 09:24 AM (21 years, 16 days ago)

AJ420: i know Stetsonia coryne is known as Argentine toothpick cactus. what would be the latin name for this mexican toothpick cactus?

MB: yes, mine also have pronounced V notches! i don't think it is stetsonia corybe because they are much more ribbed (when adults, at least) than ours.
the trichocereus genus is a complete mess. i've read data on it over and over and my conclusions are that it is closer to t. cephalomacrostibas (vastly called peruvian) than to the classic slender, dark green perus with little or no glaucesence, which look pretty much like pachanois...what do you think??? btw, do a search on trichocereus images on altavista... you'll see some t. cuzcoensis that look JUST LIKE yours...

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Re: Can I get a catus I.D. [Re: felixhigh]
    #1387956 - 03/18/03 10:31 AM (21 years, 16 days ago)

good info Felix...peace

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Re: Can I get a catus I.D. [Re: felixhigh]
    #1388848 - 03/18/03 03:51 PM (21 years, 16 days ago)

I'm not sure, we might be thinking of the same cactus. I've just seen it called 'mexican toothpick' at the big cactus nursery down here.


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Re: Can I get a catus I.D. [Re: Major_Buzz]
    #1393548 - 03/19/03 11:28 PM (21 years, 14 days ago)

It looks a little like Azureocereus hertlingiana...could be a Trich tho.

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Re: Can I get a catus I.D. [Re: Pynchon]
    #1395029 - 03/20/03 09:30 AM (21 years, 14 days ago)

hi pynchon, thanks a lot for the input!
but man, just take a look...
http://www.columnar-cacti.org/azureocereus/a1.jpg
not really the same... not to my eyes!
btw, very pretty, this azureocerei! i love that 'crystal' like shaping... (sorry for the lack of better words)...

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Re: Can I get a catus I.D. [Re: felixhigh]
    #1395081 - 03/20/03 09:52 AM (21 years, 14 days ago)

this is why i think it might be a t. cuzcoensis:
http://trout.yage.net/sc/cuzcoensis_USA/images/T_cuzcoensis_NMCR_MSS_jpg.jpg

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Re: Can I get a catus I.D. [Re: felixhigh]
    #1395314 - 03/20/03 11:27 AM (21 years, 14 days ago)

sorry about the many replies mess...
a pic of mine:

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Re: Can I get a catus I.D. [Re: felixhigh]
    #1396721 - 03/21/03 12:47 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

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but man, just take a look...
http://www.columnar-cacti.org/azureocereus/a1.jpg
not really the same... not to my eyes!




Wow, that's fucked...I've only ever seen them with ~ 6 or 7 ribs and never with that blueish tint. The spine formation in the ones I've seen look almost identical to the plant in the original photo and the cactus overall looks very similar to Tr. peru (except for that "hourglass" shape around the areoles...). I'm starting to think that with the inherent variability in cacti, trying to ID from a photo of an individual plant is pretty much a waste of time...

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Re: Can I get a catus I.D. [Re: Pynchon]
    #1397952 - 03/21/03 08:31 AM (21 years, 13 days ago)

hell, you're pretty right pynchon. who knows how many ribs are going to form (or not?) in the next years? really unpredictable. i think i'll wait for mine to bloom... no rush.

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