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Niacin
    #13835121 - 01/23/11 12:49 AM (13 years, 8 days ago)

I've been taking around 1-2 grams of Niacin/day for the past couple days.
Having read that Niacin has helped "cure" :smile2: Schizophrenia and also has helped many with Anxiety, I decided to test it out.

The results are really amazing thus far.
I feel like prior to taking Niacin (Bearing in mind the fact that i'm an ethical Vegan...so may have been lacking it due to self-imposed dietary restrictions) I feel as if the mental Cloudiness and feeling of "Living in a Dream"/"Being Lost and Confused" has been replaced by a sensation of clarity and mental poise. I feel like my feet are on the ground for the first time in years.

Basically, I had been smoking Pot alot (many times/day) and gradually the feeling of haziness and confusion, being detached from reality etc. grew to be to much to continue with. In response, I dropped Pot and started smoking Organic Tobacco (which has actually helped alot as well...there are trace amounts of Niacin in Tobacco- side note: I wonder if that's why so many Schizophrenics are convinced that Tobacco is good for them and is a form of self-medication). I used to smoke alot of Tobacco (7-10 hand rolled cigarettes per day). But I feel like the "grounding" effect of Tobacco is trumped by that of Niacin, thus I've been able to trim my Tobacco use (I've debated dropping smokes all together, but no time soon...). Anyway, I'm feeling great, just wanted to post this to recommend Niacin to anyone else who doesn't feel grounded, feels spaced-out 24/7, has persistent anxiety and social phobia, or suffers from panic attacks.

P.S.: Taking Niacin does cause an unpleasant "flushing" and itching at times, but as you keep using it, these episodes definitely lessen in intensity, and may even not occur at all. I've also read that it may tax the liver in excessive doses.


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Re: Niacin [Re: MaryWarnerSamadhi]
    #13943018 - 02/11/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'm glad this thread is actually current, cause most of the ones I find from just searching are years old, haha.

Anyways, I have been taking Niacin daily since breaking up with my girlfriend and deciding to lead a happier, healthier, and more fulfilling life, along with other vitamins and exercise. The thing is, Niacin was the only thing I wasnt taking last time I did the regimen for the same purpposed and I feel WAY better now using it. It's almost seriously retarded how just chilled and relaxed about everything I am, considering the situation.


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Re: Niacin [Re: Azure Essence]
    #13943072 - 02/11/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

ive read about the side effects in the past and thats stopped from taking it but i have just stopped smoking pot cause honestly it was making me crazy, so from just that alone i feel a bit more grounded.    this sounds good though.  maybe i will try niacin.




peace.


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Re: Niacin [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #13948364 - 02/11/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

For people looking for proven treatment and not vitamin megadoses (aka: orthomolecular "medicine")
From http://www.schizophrenia.com/treatments.php:
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Niacin and Nicotinic Acid - the marketing of niacin (also known as vitamin B3 and Nicotinic Acid) as a "cure" for schizophrenia began over 30 years ago by Dr. Abraham Hoffer. In what must surely be classified as one of the most "optimistic" viewpoints ever to hit the field of schizophrenia Dr. Hoffer continues to push this approach despite significant amounts of research to the contrary. We believe that this is a very good reason to be skeptical when anyone claims any cure for schizophrenia. When a cure is finally discovered for schizophrenia, you should expect to see it on the covers of every major newspaper and magazine in the world. Dr. Irwin David Irwin of Vancouver, Canada summarizes the current view of Dr. Hoffers Theories - which even now still gets covered in newspapers and public forums - in this statement in a letter to the Editor of the Vancouver Sun newspaper:

"At a time of real progress in treatment of schizophrenia, Dr. DeMarco has written about an approach which Dr. Abram Hoffer and others developed in the 1950s, but which by the 1970s was proven to be fruitless. The work of Dr. Hoffer and others is discussed in detail in the American Psychiatric Association Task Force Report, July 1973, which points out methodological flaws in the early work and reviews later studies which failed to show any benefit for such treatments.

In recent years, new medicines, with improved side-effect profiles and techniques to overcome problems with social and occupational functioning, have been well proven advances for the treatment of schizophrenia. Early intervention programs should prevent some of the serious dysfunction of the disease.

Serious illnesses like schizophrenia require proven treatments. Vitamin treatments as "alternative" therapy for schizophrenia should not be recommended.

David Irwin, MD
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Vancouver General Hospital
Source: The Vancouver Sun, January 23, 1998 "





Read these so you can make an informed decision:
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Supporting Information and Research:
Orthomolecular Therapy, by Dr. Stephen Barrett
Niacin and vitamin B6 in mental functioning: a review of controlled trials in humans (1991) Results: For many other indications (hyperactive children, ..., schizophrenia, etc) there is no adequate support from controlled trials in favor of vitamin supplementation.
Nicotinic acid in the treatment of schizophrenias. Practical and theoretical considerations (1975) Results: no consistent self-reported symptomatic or behavioural differences between groups
The niacin test in schizophrenia - Results: The results show a limited usefulness of the niacin test in schizophrenia
The use of nicotinic acid and pyridoxine in the treatment of schizophrenia - a 48 week trial yeilded no positive results.
A review of nicotinic acid, N-methylated indoleamines and schizophrenia (Research)
Negative findings with nicotinic acid in the treatment of schizophrenias. (Research)




If you are a diagnosed schizophrenic DO NOT stop taking your prescribed medications in favor of this. 

Just trying to spread the facts.

PS I don't have schizophrenia; but I do take B-Complex supplements for the energy boost they provide, I'm not dismissing niacin as not having some kind of effect.


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Re: Niacin [Re: consonants]
    #13952162 - 02/12/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Consonants is correct, if you're diagnosed schizophrenic you should certainly remain on the medications that are prescribed be a doctor (not sure what they are, but keep popping them).

This thread was intended to address my success in using Niacin to combat mental-fog and spacey feelings of being detached from reality which, though unpleasant and often scary, would not be considered to render me Schizophrenic.

I also wanted to focus on the reduced anxiety and cravings for tobacco that Niacin has provided me with.

I'd be interested if others out there on Shroomery who feel a similar sense of spacey-ness, as if living in an unpleasant and confusing dream (Reminiscent of a Lynch film, not quite the level of Shutter Island...but at times close to it), would receive similar benefits from utilizing Niacin in large doses. (1-2 grams/day). The flushing effect is downright uncomfortable, but the mental sharpness, clarity and poise is just incredible. I highly recommend it!

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Re: Niacin [Re: MaryWarnerSamadhi]
    #13952747 - 02/12/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Niacin [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #13953202 - 02/12/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:thumbup:

Thanks for posting. Im gonna give it a try. I have been battling this mental cloud off and on for the past 2 years or so. The feeling of living in a dream like state. Anxiety, the feeling that I might pass out/light headed. I blame it mostly on my drinking binges/alcohol withdrawl. Every now and then, Ill go on a health kick. Stop drinking, eating healthy and exercise. It does go away, but if I can add anything that might help out, Ill give it a shot.


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Re: Niacin [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #13953483 - 02/12/11 09:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hey I was the Walrus,

  Give it a rip, brother! Bear in mind the side effect of flushing...it can be uncomfortable, i recommend taking higher doses at night...certainly not when you're going to be in public (your face can turn as red as a lobster at times). As your body gets used to the Niacin saturation, the flushing should decrease in duration and intensity so long as you maintain a dosage of 1-2 grams.

  Also, to battle the mental fog/cloudy/dream-like feelings, consider taking a Calcium-Magnesium supplement.
  If you smoke cigarettes, I strongly recommend switching to Organic Tobacco as well.

  Peace-n-One-Love! :costanza:  :obamadre:  :awecid:


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Re: Niacin [Re: MaryWarnerSamadhi]
    #13953557 - 02/12/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I was recommended Niacin by my Doc for high cholesterol. Seams to help.


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