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#13829495 - 01/22/11 12:32 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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There is a batch of psilocybe pelliculosa, very near where i live. I am interested in cultivating some of these indoors, and as well I would like to see if it is possible to transplant. I write this in hopes of advice and any general help and recomendations.
I can easily collect coniferous mulch, and make fir tree woodchips. I was thinking maybe create woodchip, mix with forest debris, much how you would cultivate azurescens. And, I could create spore syringes, to inocculate. I was wondering if i go to the place where they grow, can i remove some of the mycellium and transplant this into prepared places, and or create a livable indoor situation.
Thankyou
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#13833121 - 01/22/11 06:46 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wish I could help! I've never seen anyone grow that around here, but you'd have better luck posting this in the advanced mycology forum. Take prints of these, I'm sure once you can trade on the marketplace, if you are positive that these are Psilocybe Pelliculosa, you'll be able to get some good stuff for these wild prints!
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: thetechnician]
#13838678 - 01/23/11 07:16 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok thanks. currently they are not fruiting  probably going to have to wait untill next fall.
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#13839780 - 01/23/11 10:52 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok, so im going ahead, and going to try this. i have yet to cultivate mushrooms before. Though im not deturred. Me and a friend are planning on cultivating cubes soon. anyways my plan is
take douglas fir branches, that are completely aged and dead, I have a bottom branch form a hundred foot fir, with moss on it, I have part of the trunk of a young fir tree who died decades ago. some bark from a once large fir tree. Im going to saw these into as small of pieces as i can. maybe break em up with a hammer as well. once i have all this homemade conifer mulch. im going to introduce mycellium from the source of my pelliculosa, and allow them to grow over the whole medium. then i will have a colonized substrate, I then will place this in the appropriate chamber, whereas i can have perlite for making humidity.
Wish me Luck.
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#13839998 - 01/23/11 11:46 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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good luck!
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: theDEXorphan]
#13840407 - 01/24/11 01:27 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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so i can also get fir needles of of my roof, should i add these, as well as some moss.
I dont have a pressure cooker, but I wonder if i could heat the wood up in a convection oven to ill of lichen and moss, and what not. or would that not be necesary
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#13840469 - 01/24/11 01:48 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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It won't work. Using the oven will dry the chips out which is, apart from the risk of contamination, one of the many flaws of the oven tek. You need to have them saturated with water to field capacity. If you don't have a pressure cooker I would suggest that you simply boil them for 60 minutes. Wood chips are a lot less prone to contamination than straw or manure, as they contain resins and tannin which act as natural antibiotics and are growth inhibiting to other fungi such as mold. So pressure cooking them really isn't necessary. Just don't stick them into the oven.
However, if you have never before cultivated mushrooms, I predict that you will have a very hard time getting them to fruit indoors at all. They are a cold fruiting species and these are usually a lot harder to cultivate indoors than the tropical Psilocybe cubensis and Panaeolus cyanescens, as they require more tightly controlled environmental parameters that need to be adjusted in pretty strict cycles. And if you get those right and they actually fruit the yield will be disappointing to say the least. Plus they are only moderately active.
Your best bet is to spread them outside making patches and grow cubes indoors.
I am not trying to discourage you, just telling you how it is so you aren't disappointed later on.
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#13840484 - 01/24/11 01:52 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you believe they are true psilocybe you should post pictures in the 'identification forum' and have them identefied accurately. once confirmed, you should make several spore prints, then make liquid culture and so forth and so forth..
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: mthrbtch]
#13844383 - 01/24/11 08:26 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well I suppose I'll make outdoor beds.
This next fall I can photograph them.
They meet the description in my Audubon field
Guide. and I have had mild trips with around 20-30.
Freshpicked.
Thank you for the positive direction insight.
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#13969738 - 02/15/11 07:30 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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So. I had found three of the last remaining psilocybe pelliculosa at my spot. I took these stems , used sterilized equipment. chopped the stems and put in a sterilized mixture of agave nectar and well water. placed in a lidded jar. I put this jar in a air vent, for warmth. after 2 weeks, a minute amount of what loooks like white particles appeared. This what i hope is mycellium does not grow fast. and originally the fuzz came off of the mushroom stems, as I would shake it, the white" spread out. Their is definetely no mold. I would post a picture but it would be a really hard shot. to clearly show.
I also just took a bunch of douglas fir branches created a mulch. this mulch is soaking in well water for 24 30 hours to absorb moisture. I want to then introduce this "mycellium" into my wood mulch. i added a bit of vermiculite to soak with the wood.
I am going to probably dig up a little bit of mycellium. but i dont want to destroy the allready existing colony. so anyways I plan on growing mycellium on my mulch then making an outdoor bed.
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#13975495 - 02/16/11 07:40 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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today I dug up one half pint of mycellium colonized wood mulch. I added this to a my prepared mulch i made. I put this in a plastic cake box. it is indoors at 50-55 degrees. out door weather is in the fourties. So it is a temp upgrade. I hope to see the mycellium spread!!!
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#13976240 - 02/16/11 09:50 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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"Well I suppose I'll make outdoor beds"
This was going to be my recommendation.
You are in the right area! I am going to have to try this in So Cal.
(I have this species on agar, strong, right now)
I will do an outdoor bed too, and something indoor too, just to give it
a try. ...maybe a week in a fridge with a light on 12/12 then into the GH?
Good luck,
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: Javadog]
#13976366 - 02/16/11 10:06 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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good luck guys, sounds like a good project
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: Object110011]
#13976721 - 02/16/11 11:12 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you Object.
Check this species out on agar:
It is unusual, and cool. It kinda started growing along under the
surface of the agar.
Another shot:
Take care,
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: Javadog]
#13977224 - 02/17/11 01:03 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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nice!
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14035321 - 02/27/11 11:15 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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So i had transplanted mycellium into new douglas-fir mulch. i added a layer of pine needles from these trees. Mycellium has grown onto the surrounding wood. Rope like arms and white fuzz. Im concerned though of a spiderweb like grey fungus is growing on he surface. If these are moved outdoors, when the sprign is here; will it matter if this spider web is around or not?
Also note i removed this mycellium from outdoors,before we had a snowstorm, so outdoor mycellium is 30 degrees farenheight. indoor where i am doing this lab. The temp is 52-55 degrees.
Im excited.
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14068074 - 03/04/11 08:05 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Grey spider webs are gone. The mycellium is visible in more new places now. its really cool!
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14068276 - 03/04/11 09:00 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14068431 - 03/04/11 09:35 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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here's a thread you might find very useful. it has helped me, and probably a lot of others, in learning the basics out outdoor beds.
MUCH anticipation for this upcoming fall!   
good luck with your projects!
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 Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: Primal Call]
#14165748 - 03/22/11 04:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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So last night i was photographing my tek. The photos will be uploaded soon!. also I counted four pins altogether. im concerned because this was unexpected. The temp is 53 degrees nearly 17 hours a day. its a good fruiting climate, though i was thinking it would spend time creating more mycelium . The colony has grown in size very impressively, though.
The thread was appreciated man.
Peace and prosperity.
p.s my powdered wood cake injected with liquid culture, became over run with contaminates
im going to let this stuff run its course and compost it : ]
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14206824 - 03/29/11 11:01 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fuck this. I spent so much damn time trying to get my photos on this thread. I give the fuck up. Too bad. I actually suceeded thus far, and wanted to show you all. but i guess i cant. the photos did make it to my pictures folder if anyone is interested i grew quite a pretty mushroom .
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14206838 - 03/29/11 11:02 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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I really wanted to see these fruits!
Can you post a video of them to YouTube?
Uploading photos to this site is easy too.
Too bad.
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: Javadog]
#14206889 - 03/29/11 11:10 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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I can see them in your gallerie.
So you just need to insert them into the post.
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: Luger0815]
#14224443 - 04/02/11 01:00 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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im going to retry
tonight
I can put a lnk
Link to a image hoster
oh hey also they are uploaded to my profile allready
they never bruised blue.
Had a brown spore print, like cinnamon brown
yellow staining on a paper towl.
I put the unfinished dpore print cap on the surface. left the stem in the wod mulch
yellow bruising, or streaking .
I dont believe the mycellium i dug up was the conifer mycellium
But remember i put the stems in my liquid home made culture. And mycellium has grown out of them. And they connected to douglas fir bark powder added to the culture on accident, after intial colonization.
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14224735 - 04/02/11 03:08 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14224917 - 04/02/11 06:58 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
KingCaps36 said:
But remember i put the stems in my liquid home made culture.
Wild specimen to LC isn't going to work, go get a pack of agar for $1.69.
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: Doc_T]
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: UK Explorer]
#14228498 - 04/02/11 09:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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I want to mutuate, this wild strain. if i do, can i plant this outside, and will it its spores be viable. Or if i mutate will it just stay alive, and lose its reproductive fortune?
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14228536 - 04/02/11 09:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
KingCaps36 said:
I want to mutuate, this wild strain.
Why?
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14228618 - 04/02/11 10:04 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok later tongight or tommorow or soon, il put pics of my fully mature mushroom i grew. Beautifull. someone ought to help me I.D
why do i want to mutate. Because i would find it really intriguing. Though i dont want to sterilizze, them. I most likely wont do it. theyre so cool looking allready.
I notice that in a douglas fir fresh wood chip a yellow resin is evident. And the yellow bruising on my mushroom. Could these be the same chemical, or built from the douglas fir yellow resin?
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14228665 - 04/02/11 10:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is the mushroom you grew the same one on your avatar?
And it did it fruit off the conifer mulch?
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: Kaiser]
#14228788 - 04/02/11 10:46 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes Kaiser!
My gallery is up to date. Pics of the mycellium and full mature. pic of gills, top. whole mushroom.
So check Out MY gallery! love to know what you shroomerites think?
Yes was grown off douglas fir mulch. unsure of what the intial colony had as substrate, some pine wood mulch though. But they readily accepted the added douglas-fir mulch. cinnamon brown spore print
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14228957 - 04/02/11 11:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14229115 - 04/02/11 11:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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only 1 fruit?
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: Primal Call]
#14229538 - 04/03/11 01:20 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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yes. there was three other pins, and they never grew, while the other grew really fast. and then they disappeared recently so i guess three aborts. I severed the fruit with a razor to see if the fruit will regrow. no sighns of that yet.
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14245304 - 04/05/11 11:08 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is an amazing grow! I hope you get more fruits. Are you taking prints? I would love to study the spores of this species some day.
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: Ralafe]
#14264830 - 04/09/11 10:56 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ralafe. I only did a partial print. i then set the cap back into the terranium, as to encourage this to germinate the spores it produced
keep up the genetic diversity.
I decided not to mutate, as well.
The mycellium grew more. and nmo signs of more fruits
the temps wqill rise soon. so i might have to wait.
Thanks for the compliments.
If i grow more fruits and have a print id be happy to send it off to anyone!
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Re: psilocybe pelliculosa cultivation [Re: KingCaps36]
#14420837 - 05/08/11 06:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well i was informed i cultivated agrocybe praecox. cool, so i planted this out side.
currently cultivating my first space coast, cubensis, .
they are full of BLUEE
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