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higgledy-piggledy

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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: andymc]
#13824793 - 01/21/11 07:20 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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i see you have been busy the last 2 hours.
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andymc
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higgledy-piggledy said: i see you have been busy the last 2 hours.

Yup, but doing something else.
Googling "chemical composition of coffee grounds" took 2 seconds. That doc was the first result.
PS> I remember this was your response a previous time, when you answered a question about cold-weather woodlover growing parameters by saying they were the same as cubes; you subtracted the time difference between 2 of my post and made fun of me for researching the correct answers.
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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: andymc]
#13824807 - 01/21/11 07:31 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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andymc said:
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higgledy-piggledy said: i see you have been busy the last 2 hours.

Yup, but doing something else.
Googling "chemical composition of coffee grounds" took 2 seconds. That doc was the first result.
I KNEW the 'I'm feeling lucky' button was useful.
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werDehT
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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: Doc_T]
#15916166 - 03/07/12 08:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't see a clear answer on this...
I've read adding grounds to a bulk sub is quite beneficial. Knowing this, I was drinking some coffee while preparing some jars with cracked corn. Without researching before hand (damn I'm getting cocky already) I decided to add some grounds in to some of the jars. I'm doing 2 strains and made a couple jars of ea strain with grounds and a couple without.
Transferred agar wedge to ea a couple days ago, I'll update with pics when I have an answer.
If something on this has been proven already I apologize, but I couldn't find it.
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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: werDehT]
#15926286 - 03/09/12 07:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You added coffee grounds to your spawn jars? That would be kind of unorthodox, I think. AFAIK those of us who use grounds generally add them to our bulk substrates.
My grains are soaked in weak coffee water with gypsum (the coffee water part is an RR recommendation, IIRC).
I believe the grounds are more useful during colonizing/fruiting, as they provide nitrogen and potentially, various other useful compounds. That said, my guess is that they (at least) won't hurt anything during the spawn colonization stage.
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higgledy-piggledy said: imo theres no need to use the grounds.
all the compounds are (hot) water soluble; so why take the entire muck?
- make coffee - dilute - use that to soak your grains in
end of story.
I agree 100%, adding the grounds themselves sounds like it might pose a number of problems, coonsidering they would be an isolated abundant nute source. Diluted coffee should be more reliable. Just an opinion though, good luck either way!!
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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: andymc]
#15926378 - 03/09/12 07:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just posting to keep up with this thread Though the subject of using coffee grounds in the substrate sound like a good idea. I'm going to try and get as much info on the matter so when I get ready to put something together, I'll have clear idea as to how to put it all together right! Very interesting thread
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this thread died over a year ago it just got bumped
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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: mrmojoshroomin]
#15926404 - 03/09/12 07:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've read about them being used in bulk subs and was planning on it. Like I said I did it without researching first, just assumed if they were nutritious t would help. Then researched and couldn't really find a clear answer. They're less than a week into colonizing n the ones with grounds do seem to be pulling ahead but we'll see what it does a little farther along.
I bumped it because while searching for the answer this was the first hit. Thought it would be better than just makin another thread with the same subject. Was I wrong?
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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: werDehT]
#15926429 - 03/09/12 08:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol I didn't even notice the dates from the previous post. But bumping it may have been a good idea. Do post pics of the ones you have going with and with the coffee grinds and how it all turns out for you
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MagicCarpetRide89 said: lol I didn't even notice the dates from the previous post. But bumping it may have been a good idea. Do post pics of the ones you have going with and with the coffee grinds and how it all turns out for you
Will do sir
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mrmojoshroomin
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MagicCarpetRide89 said: Just posting to keep up with this thread Though the subject of using coffee grounds in the substrate sound like a good idea. I'm going to try and get as much info on the matter so when I get ready to put something together, I'll have clear idea as to how to put it all together right! Very interesting thread
I think they were adding the grounds to their spawn, not sub. Adding grounds to the sub is fine, but to the spawn i'm not so sure.
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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: mrmojoshroomin]
#15926565 - 03/09/12 08:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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just a pinch or so of grounds in qt jars of grain are fine cus you have to PC it, I wouldnt advise using it in pf tek unless you PC your cakes, I dont think the traditional steam prep would suffice using grounds (which are grains). 
I dont add grounds to my grain jars unless its for stone producers that can take the time to use the nutes from the grounds. 
but I do add gypsum at almost every point of the myc cycle, soak/spawnjars/substrate prep same as coffee could be used, but its always safer to only use the diluted coffee/water in all but the substrate prep. 
gypsum for calcium/sulpher for plumper more healthy looking mushies
coffee for N and a quicker speed w/colonization.
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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: mrmojoshroomin]
#15926566 - 03/09/12 08:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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MagicCarpetRide89 said: Just posting to keep up with this thread Though the subject of using coffee grounds in the substrate sound like a good idea. I'm going to try and get as much info on the matter so when I get ready to put something together, I'll have clear idea as to how to put it all together right! Very interesting thread
I think they were adding the grounds to their spawn, not sub. Adding grounds to the sub is fine, but to the spawn i'm not so sure.
I think somewhere in this post they were talking about both. But yeah, I don't know about adding it to the spawn either
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MagicCarpetRide89 said:
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mrmojoshroomin said:
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MagicCarpetRide89 said: Just posting to keep up with this thread Though the subject of using coffee grounds in the substrate sound like a good idea. I'm going to try and get as much info on the matter so when I get ready to put something together, I'll have clear idea as to how to put it all together right! Very interesting thread
I think they were adding the grounds to their spawn, not sub. Adding grounds to the sub is fine, but to the spawn i'm not so sure.
I think somewhere in this post they were talking about both. But yeah, I don't know about adding it to the spawn either
ya both have been mentioned here. i am speaking of adding to spawn jars, not sub. though ill be doing that as well
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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: 13shrooms]
#15927120 - 03/09/12 10:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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13shrooms said: just a pinch or so of grounds in qt jars of grain are fine cus you have to PC it, I wouldnt advise using it in pf tek unless you PC your cakes, I dont think the traditional steam prep would suffice using grounds (which are grains). 
I dont add grounds to my grain jars unless its for stone producers that can take the time to use the nutes from the grounds. 
but I do add gypsum at almost every point of the myc cycle, soak/spawnjars/substrate prep same as coffee could be used, but its always safer to only use the diluted coffee/water in all but the substrate prep. 
gypsum for calcium/sulpher for plumper more healthy looking mushies
coffee for N and a quicker speed w/colonization.

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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: 13shrooms]
#15930473 - 03/10/12 06:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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here we goes guys, first update. All jars recieved g2g 3-2-12



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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: werDehT]
#15930534 - 03/10/12 06:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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this should be interesting to see how it all goes. Thanks for putting up the pics!!
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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: werDehT]
#15930540 - 03/10/12 06:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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sorry what kind of grains are those? they look like peanuts, no offense. goodluck, curiuos to see what you come up with.
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Re: Coffee grounds in grain spawn jars? [Re: TweakerO]
#15930549 - 03/10/12 06:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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cracked corn. Id like to use rye berries, but this seems to be all i can find in my area. Though i have to admit, i havent looked too hard.
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