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Re: the war [Re: Xlea321]
    #1386949 - 03/18/03 05:07 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

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The UN was there yeah, but most of the ground fighting was done by the Northern Alliance supported by the yanks dropping daisy cutters.



But did they drop them from 5,000 feet while the Brit's drove around their 75% of the world while in cars with foot long spikes on the steering wheel?


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Re: the war [Re: Xlea321]
    #1386956 - 03/18/03 05:10 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Alex123 writes:

Forget about elections for a while. The country needs rebuilding.

I don't get it, Alex. If it is your opinion that the UN should not organize elections there yet, then why in response to my question; "Can you give us one example of the US conquering a foreign belligerent and then NOT holding free elections?" did you reply:

Afghanistan. 4 months ago. Remember?

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Re: the war [Re: Xlea321]
    #1387076 - 03/18/03 06:07 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Tell you what. Funding and supporting the nightmarish Northern Alliance warlords is going to cause catastrophic trouble in Afghanistan. That's my bet. Ok?

The Northern Alliance wern't our enemies (terrorists), they just so happened to be fighting who we were fighting........so they became our allies.It's that simple.


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Re: the war [Re: Phred]
    #1387664 - 03/18/03 09:03 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

If it is your opinion that the UN should not organize elections there yet

Perhaps it would be better to feed the starving first?

btw, if the americans had devoted the money they are going to spend destroying Iraq on rebuilding Afghanistan the free elections would already have been held.



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Re: the war [Re: Xlea321]
    #1387685 - 03/18/03 09:07 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Alex123 writes:

Perhaps it would be better to spend it feeding the starving first?

So you are saying that it is not yet time for the UN to organize free elections in Afghanistan. I fail to see how it is impossible to organize humanitarian aid and elections simultaneously.

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Re: the war [Re: Murex]
    #1387688 - 03/18/03 09:09 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

The Northern Alliance wern't our enemies (terrorists), they just so happened to be fighting who we were fighting........so they became our allies.It's that simple.

Havn't you learned this "simple" approach has problems? You funded the muslim fundamentalists throughout the 80's in Afghanistan. Do you think that was a wise thing to do? You funded and armed Saddam throughout the 80's. Was that wise?

I'm afraid arming and funding savage dictators just because they are on your side that week may sound "simple" but it has far from "simple" consequences.


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Re: the war [Re: Phred]
    #1387701 - 03/18/03 09:11 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

I fail to see how it is impossible to organize humanitarian aid and elections simultaneously.

Me neither. Why isn't it happening?


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Re: the war [Re: Xlea321]
    #1387708 - 03/18/03 09:14 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Me neither. Why isn't it happening?

Don't ask me. Ask Kofi Anan.

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Re: the war [Re: Phred]
    #1387730 - 03/18/03 09:21 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Taking a wild guess, I'd imagine it's something to do with the vast majority of the country now being in the hands of brutal Northern Alliance warlords. That's gonna stop humanitarian aid. Not too good for free elections either.

That's the trouble with supporting warlords...


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