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Tons of Tric
    #13671757 - 12/22/10 04:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I have been reading around here and I hear similar problems to the one I am fixing to list, but not quite the same.

I have been trying to get this hobby down and believed I had it nailed after berthing 12 1/2 pint jars using the BRF tech outlined in RR's video. All went very well and I received 6 fantastic flushes. I repeated this and again all jars berthed great, perfect white fluffy mycelium (I also waited the prescribed week after colonization). For two weeks the cakes sat and did nothing in the tote. I re-dunked and then they began to fruit but signs of tric began to show so I tossed these. Then all went. I tried again and again 12 jars failed to tric. The only thing I have changed is I went to a bulk BRF as it is cheaper and I began to use a computer fan set to run for one min every 4 hours as my work schedule changed. I should point out that the fan seemed to dry the cakes a bit so I figured they where getting plenty of FAE. Help?

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Re: Tons of Tric [Re: donrjuan]
    #13671774 - 12/22/10 05:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

well generally if i have the green mold, it's from not enough fresh air. you might try using a shotgun terrarium. here is a link on how to build one.

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Re: Tons of Tric [Re: donrjuan]
    #13671886 - 12/22/10 05:25 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I am using one. I have the exact set up outlined in RR's video with the addition of the fan and a humidifier.

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Re: Tons of Tric [Re: donrjuan]
    #13671916 - 12/22/10 05:31 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Get rid of the fan and humidifier, and you should do fine. there is no need for a fan and humidifier, keep it simple. Make sure your terrarium isn't in a closet, and the natural air flow will take care of your air flow. you will have to mist a few times a day, but thats about it. If your humidity struggles to stay high, then run your humidifier in the same room as your terrarium. just dont let the room get above 60% or you could grow mold on your walls.

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Re: Tons of Tric [Re: donrjuan]
    #13671935 - 12/22/10 05:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Sound advice. I live in the rockies so the it is very dry here. Will the mushies still do well? I can't spend any extra time misting and fanning really as I have a lot of work now. Advice?

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Re: Tons of Tric [Re: donrjuan]
    #13671988 - 12/22/10 05:49 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Sound advice. I live in the Rockies so the it is very dry here. Will the mushies still do well? I can't spend any extra time misting and fanning really as I have a lot of work now. Advice?



well like I said you may want to run your humidifier in the same room, Especially in the Rockies. If you lived in florida, you wouldn't need to.Something to keep in mind is your elevation. You realize you have less oxygene content, depending on your elevation. I would guess that mushrooms would struggle above 9000 feet. Cant say for sure, when Im that high in elevation, Im usually tearing down the side of a mountain, on a snowboard, not growing mushrooms. But I have a few friends that live in Leadville Colorado, and they say they couldnt get anything to grow their, except weed, damn good weed I might add. But no mushies, and thats 11000 feet

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Re: Tons of Tric [Re: roaddog]
    #13672046 - 12/22/10 05:58 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Im at 6500' so everything can breathe well. I understand that the relative humidity should stay at around 95% but to achieve this my tote looks like a small thunderstorm is brewing. I have tried several things to keep this level up but it drops radically, like to around 40% if I do not have the humidifier piped rite into the tote (well through two 2 liter bottles then into the tote to reduce water droplets). Just not sure what to do about this one.

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Re: Tons of Tric [Re: donrjuan]
    #13672150 - 12/22/10 06:17 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

If you can keep the room at 60% then it will be pretty easy to keep your SGFC at 95% with a few sprays a day.  I would also make sure your hygrometer is calibrated, so you get accurate readings. I would then take a reading in my room with my humidifier on, and get that set at 60%. Then I would take a reading in my SGFC and spray until you reach 95% and role with it. Keep it going, and you will be back in business.

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Re: Tons of Tric [Re: donrjuan]
    #13672199 - 12/22/10 06:27 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Its the sprays a day that is killing me. I love the little caps but have become a very busy dude. The hygrometer is digital and a rather nice one so I am sure it is correct. I really wish there was a more automated way of keeping the humidity at 95. In fact, until I turned it up to reach the 95 I was having great success. It was only after I received the hygrometer that I realized I was hovering at around 65.

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Re: Tons of Tric [Re: donrjuan]
    #13672231 - 12/22/10 06:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Its the sprays a day that is killing me. I love the little caps but have become a very busy dude. The hygrometer is digital and a rather nice one so I am sure it is correct. I really wish there was a more automated way of keeping the humidity at 95. In fact, until I turned it up to reach the 95 I was having great success. It was only after I received the hygrometer that I realized I was hovering at around 65.



Those digital hygrometers dont really work well, even the expensive kind. If you can find something like this, then you can get more precise.you may have to scroll to the right of the picture to see it.

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Re: Tons of Tric [Re: donrjuan]
    #13808153 - 01/18/11 02:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Ok, so I started over with the process and implemented the K.I.S.S. technique (Keep It Simple Stupid). I reduced the humidifier to almost nothing and elevated it as I hear there are more contams floating around the floor. I let it go for a bit with some properly birthed cakes. No luck. The tric is only on the bottoms of the cakes were they are in contact with the jar lids I place them on. I spray twice a day and still have the computer fan set up to provide FAE 6 times a day for one minute each. The hygrometer is ranging from 65% to 88% humidity. I was thinking of going to a BRF cake to bulk substrate setup but I am scared of wasting even more of my time and resources on this. Please any help is welcome.

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