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What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel?
    #1380812 - 03/16/03 12:10 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

See subject.

As I understand it, Saddam has been given the choice to basically A) Leave Iraq or B) Face the wrath. Now, it seems like he's going with option B...either that or he will wait until the very last minute and then go with A.

Assuming he doesn't leave, he will have nothing to lose, so how likely is it that he will use whatever weapons he has to bomb Israel, thereby bringing the entire middle east into this, and possibly triggering nuclear war?

How likely is that?


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Revelation]
    #1380835 - 03/16/03 12:18 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Does a camel shit in the desert?


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Revelation]
    #1380876 - 03/16/03 12:30 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

By unilaterally invading Iraq, Shrub is giving every country in the world an excuse to start a war, including Iraq vs. Israel.


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Revelation]
    #1380895 - 03/16/03 12:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think it will happen. But i wonder how many people will be in support of Isreal defending themselves? That would make for some interesting discussions here.


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #1380939 - 03/16/03 12:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Shrub is giving every country in the world an excuse to start a war

Yeah, but not every country is in an unfulfilled surrender treaty........


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1380958 - 03/16/03 12:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

If Saddam attacks Israel they have every right to defend themselves, I dont think anyone could argue diferently. I just dont think that is possible. This is also an argument against war. This war has the potential to cause mass destabilization in the region and that is not needed.


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Skikid16]
    #1380995 - 03/16/03 01:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, but not every country is in an unfulfilled surrender treaty........




Surrender treaty? OK... I might add that, that is beyond the point for most countries. Aggression toward a country that has not done anything to the aggressor country is wrong.


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: grib]
    #1381064 - 03/16/03 01:22 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Aggression toward a country that has not done anything to the aggressor country is wrong.

Iraq has done something wrong, they started a war, lost the war, signed a treaty, and didn't fulfill that treaty.



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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Revelation]
    #1381280 - 03/16/03 02:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The chances are 100%. Why wouldn't he is a better question.

If he does he is fucked. The Israelies have said they would not sit back and watch it happen this time.

Because I have duel citizenship I have been contemplating going to Isreal and enlisting. I know that sounds fucked but I can't help but look at how passive Jews were during WW2 and feel that I cannot accept that again and would have to do my part.

I don't know if I would really want to leave what I have going on here though as my actions are really going to benifit my town by providing them good food and community to come together and make good things stick.....


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Revelation]
    #1381288 - 03/16/03 02:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i'm sure he'd like to... but will he be able to?

none of us really know what the US generals know and what they're up to and how this is all gonna go down. war is unpredictable. i'd say that none of us here (unless of course, we've got top level military or intelligence officers posting here) can know in any way what the chances are.


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Buddha5254]
    #1381404 - 03/16/03 03:22 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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If Saddam attacks Israel they have every right to defend themselves, I dont think anyone could argue diferently.



I hope you're right, but I have this little feeling in the bottom of my gut that says that there will be people who'll say that Isreal deserved it.

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This war has the potential to cause mass destabilization in the region and that is not needed.



I agree. I have this feeling that we are going to be involved in something that will be written in the History books, be it good or bad. History in the making.


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Revelation]
    #1381966 - 03/16/03 07:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

so how likely is it that he will use whatever weapons he has to bomb Israel,

Bomb Israel with what? His missiles were too innacurate to hit Israel 12 years ago. What's he going to ise now?


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1382302 - 03/17/03 12:55 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

he did hit isreal last time...


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Skikid16]
    #1382394 - 03/17/03 03:13 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Iraq has done something wrong, they started a war, lost the war, signed a treaty, and didn't fulfill that treaty.




And do you really see the next logical step to be war? Iraq is contained under sanctions and inspections. What real threat have they posed since the last gulf war? Their army is much weaker than then so how can they pose a threat to us?
A much tougher inspections regime combined with a substantial UN prescence would in time neutralise any remaining threat. This way we would not destabalise such a volatile area and could perhaps focus on the Israel Palestine problem. A successful conclusion, or at least good progress in that area would be a much more effective weapon against terrorism than killing innocent people. It is plain to see terror breeds terror.

If going to war at this time is the best our govts can came up with I think it shows a distinct lack of creative intelligence, or perhaps they are just plain greedy and evil.

Once pushed into a corner I wouldnt be surprised at all to see Sadaam do something unexpected concerning Israel. Attacking Israel is the closest Sadaam can get to attacking the US.


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1382448 - 03/17/03 03:51 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Iraq is contained under sanctions and inspections. What real threat have they posed since the last gulf war? Their army is much weaker than then so how can they pose a threat to us?
A much tougher inspections regime combined with a substantial UN prescence would in time neutralise any remaining threat. This way we would not destabalise such a volatile area and could perhaps focus on the Israel Palestine problem. A successful conclusion, or at least good progress in that area would be a much more effective weapon against terrorism than killing innocent people. It is plain to see terror breeds terror.

If going to war at this time is the best our govts can came up with I think it shows a distinct lack of creative intelligence, or perhaps they are just plain greedy and evil.

Once pushed into a corner I wouldnt be surprised at all to see Sadaam do something unexpected concerning Israel. Attacking Israel is the closest Sadaam can get to attacking the US.



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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1382711 - 03/17/03 05:56 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I was merely pointing out that it isn't like Iraq has done nothing to bring this upon themselves. Do I think war is right? No, not at all. Do I think this war will cause much more bad than good? Yes.

I was simply responding to the poster that made it seem like Iraq was just chillin as a good country when we decided to come along and start some shit.


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Skikid16]
    #1382715 - 03/17/03 05:57 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Saddam is no worse an abuser of human rights than Turkey, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia etc etc. The list is endless.


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1382734 - 03/17/03 06:08 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Is Turkey, Saudi Arabia, or Kuwait in an unfulfilled surrender agreement?



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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Skikid16]
    #1382780 - 03/17/03 06:26 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

So why does Bush keep stressing what a nasty man Saddam is?

And if "unfullfilled surrender agreements" are the only reason for war why can't he convince the UN to support him and why do most law experts consider the war to be completly illegal?


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Re: What are the chances of Saddam attacking Israel? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1382795 - 03/17/03 06:30 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Good point Alex! I think that if Iraq's main export was cracker jacks we wouldnt be going to war to save their people.


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