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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: Shr00m0fD00m]
    #13835972 - 01/23/11 09:31 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

That's certainly true.  How many of them have tanks?


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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13835978 - 01/23/11 09:33 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sure a few of those people could fabricate one, given enough time and materials... :smirk:

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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: deCypher]
    #13835986 - 01/23/11 09:36 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

As long as its not a WMD I think every person of legal age who isnt a convicted murderer should have the right to own a gun.

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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: MisterMuscaria] * 1
    #13836023 - 01/23/11 09:46 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Convicted murderers should be allowed to purchase targets and and glue them to themselves to provide more of a challenge for us.

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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #13836846 - 01/23/11 01:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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As long as its not a WMD I think every person of legal age who isnt a convicted murderer should have the right to own a gun.


What about other kinds of violent offenders? :macdre:


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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13836904 - 01/23/11 01:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Neither China nor America could walk over each other other.  A land invasion of either continent right now would be insane.





china has a large army in addition to their nuclear arsenal but gun ownership
by civilians has been outlawed, in the US we have private gun ownership
effectively making a militia force of around 250,000,000 people




Are you sure that 70% of the men, women, and children in the US own a gun?

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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #13837045 - 01/23/11 02:11 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

What if there was a device that could instantly kill anyone that you point it at, no matter what.  Should that be legal to possess?


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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #13837084 - 01/23/11 02:16 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i would say there are guns that already fall in that category


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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #13854426 - 01/26/11 02:26 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I think guns need to be controlled more strictly, but people should have much more access to them. What CA, NJ, IL, NY do to CCW owners is fucking bullshit. All they do is create that illegal market and people go to jail for simple firearms possession. This is absolutely ridiculous, but more classes for CCW or more background/mental health check, or lasered serial numbered bullets is completely okay with me. Guns are just like drugs, and the war is the same. We just tolerate them to an extent. For me not to be able to get a CCW because of some bullshit liberal who doesn't like guns is fucking bullshit, but for him to tell me I need to take 80 hours of class, my bullets are all laser engraved, and my magazine capacity is 10 rounds is not unreasonable.

Guns need to be more obtainable but more strictly controlled. Just like benzos or opiates for addicts.


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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: withoutawire]
    #13854527 - 01/26/11 02:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I disagree with a mental background check. (I mean if you have been clinically proven to be insane then you already can't own one.)

If you had to take a psych test it would be completely at the discretion of federal shrinks to determine your "sanity".

I hope you can see why that would be dangerous.

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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #13854573 - 01/26/11 02:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I do not disagree with a mental background check.  You already pointed out that there is one.


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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13854581 - 01/26/11 02:53 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

It's not strict enough. All it checks is a state data base. Go to a private mental hospital and you have already bi passed that loop hole.


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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: withoutawire]
    #13854614 - 01/26/11 02:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I'll let you two duke it out.  I'm conflicted.


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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: withoutawire]
    #13854714 - 01/26/11 03:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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It's not strict enough. All it checks is a state data base. Go to a private mental hospital and you have already bi passed that loop hole.



I understand that, but what constitutes mental illness in a uniform federal system?

If you have ever been diagnosed with depression or dysthymic disorder should you be barred from owning a firearm because of suicide risk? What matters is who is making the guidelines, and how easily can they be changed to serve whoever is making them.

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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #13854750 - 01/26/11 03:23 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/311261.php

These people are not interested in science.  They are interested in money.  And they're in charge.


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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13854772 - 01/26/11 03:27 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah it's pretty well known fact that shrinks are in league with big pharma.

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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #13854803 - 01/26/11 03:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The shrinks who write that book are in league with big government liberals who force insurance companies to cover that shit.  In fact, they are big government liberals.


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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13854815 - 01/26/11 03:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:shrug: Just a single facet in the shitstorm that is our eroding way of government.

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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #13854827 - 01/26/11 03:36 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Unfortunately "eroding" is not something I would use to characterize our government.  "Expanding" is more accurate.


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Re: If you believe that every person of legal age has the right to own a gun [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13854849 - 01/26/11 03:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I said eroding way of government, but yes, I agree

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