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this is what bush spent money on
    #13792422 - 01/15/11 05:47 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007_Baghdad_airstrike#Arrest_of_Bradley_Manning


with crap like that you can't even nail enough people to end the war, and we spent our tax money on it. to be honest who cares how much obama sucks, we had a murdering murderer tax spending piece of crap in office for eight years.

but to tell you the truth i guess anyone made president is a murderer if they watch this and don't have those responsible put in jail


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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: imachavel]
    #13792492 - 01/15/11 06:01 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

That is one of my favorite videos.  A bunch of terrorist scum taken out. 

Bradley is gonna get 50 years.


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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #13792686 - 01/15/11 06:52 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

1.) Don't bring your children to a war zone.
2.) Looks like that Rueters employee missed his deadline, Laugh Out Loud.  Hang out with terrorists you might get killed.
3.) This is such an old current event, although quite amusing that out of nowhere you would bring up Bush and call him a "murdering murderer tax spending piece of crap" without the slightest hint of irony that Obama is spending money on the exact same thing.


But.....but.......Bush.

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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: despisedicon]
    #13792887 - 01/15/11 07:34 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

dude, that guy pulled over in a van to help some guy who was crawling

"he's crawling, he's wounded, is he picking up a weapon?"


did the guy look like he could pick up a weapon?


"a van just pulled up, the van is full of weapons, he is helping that guy up"


they shot the van and killed those surviving 2 kids brothers and mother and father in front of his face. then the pilots went and shot a building and killed 3 more families.


at least obama got the troops who aren't training out of the middle east, well... no he didn't. well obama is full of shit, but bush... i hate bush



would you want someone to help you out if you were shot in the street? could you imagine someone shooting up the ambulance?


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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #13796151 - 01/16/11 10:49 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

OMG bUsH is so effin gay! He is totally like evil and dumb and stupid and im smarter than him! Hes Dumb! All oter presidents arent evils like bUsh. Hes different cuz hes dumb! Obama is awesome! At least hes not bUsH. he does same things but liek w/e cuz he haz cool PoSTERzzz.


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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: 4896744]
    #13796400 - 01/16/11 11:49 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

i love those posterzzz of obama

it's time for change:shrug:



it's going to be the same way when Obama leaves. when bush was in office all people did was complain about him, now that he is gone everyone is bitching about Obama saying that at least bush cared to an extent. now when Obama leaves the next president will inherit HIS mess, if the economy is in great shape by then, it will be 'oh what's his name is so awesome thank god obama is gone, this guy fixed everything' or it'll be 'omg this guy fucked up everything, you know at least obama cared and tried to give us free health care blah blah'


i don't know i say we knock 2 years off high school and have everyone graduate 2 years earlier, have the legal voting age changed to 16, the legal drinking age changed to 19, and then imagine this.....


with all the younger voters, people will just third party, since they always have some 'legalize cannabis' act included, of course obama did also, which is why I voted for him
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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: imachavel]
    #13796416 - 01/16/11 11:53 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Keep the change.


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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13796444 - 01/16/11 11:59 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Keep the change.



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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #13797563 - 01/16/11 03:39 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: imachavel]
    #13797586 - 01/16/11 03:45 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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with all the younger voters, people will just third party, since they always have some 'legalize cannabis' act included, of course obama did also, which is why I voted for him




I'm pretty sure that's not accurate

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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #13797723 - 01/16/11 04:20 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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He started senseless wars to enrich his family & friends, while doing next to nothing for the hundreds of thousands of injured, widowed, & orphaned, as well as millions of refugees & others displaced, from two wars of imperialist American aggression. As such, the vast majority of the Muslim world (and the majority of the world, as well) deplores his criminal regime (not that they like the current one of Uncle Tom) & don't believe American lies & propaganda for one second. Amerika will bankrupt itself trying in vain to hold onto a crumbling & decaying empire for which the sun is quickly setting, ignoring the urgency of drastically cutting (i.e several hundred billion dollars annually) its excessive military spending abroad & instead focusing only within it own borders.

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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: imachavel]
    #13798287 - 01/16/11 06:14 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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dude, that guy pulled over in a van to help some guy who was crawling




how often do you drive into a place where a gunfight just went down and
a dozen or so bodies are sprawled in the streets full of bullet holes,
do you jump out of your car and help? do you take your kids in there?

I know my ass would be getting the fuck out of there because I dont know
the situation as to why those men are dead, all I know is the shooter
may still be in the area and I could be his next target, I need to get
my kids to safety


they shot up insurgents

ak47s


Saab at4, that shit wasnt a fucking camera






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could you imagine someone shooting up the ambulance?





what ambulance takes a couple of kids into a hot zone as a family outing, wheres the identifying markings and the lights? no, that was another insurgent using his kids as cover for his true motives, collect the weapons and the wounded and GTFO so they can claim it was a massacre of civilians by the US...



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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13798762 - 01/16/11 07:42 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #13799031 - 01/16/11 08:30 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

too many people to reply to, entheogenicpeace, i agree

prisoner #1, good point, but those WERE cameras, if that guy was an insurgent helping his friend, he wasn't about to hand him weapons, the guy was crawling on the floor, when someone is running and crawling on the floor, there is no point continuing to shoot them, that guy HAD no rocket launcher.


also, in the beginning of the video, you see the men shaking hands and one guy throws up a geeky peace sign, if those were insurgents they sure were cocky that day.

anyway you have a good point


chesperito, i meant the younger people would probably vote for pro marijuana candidates if they let the voting age decrease to 16, hope you read the entire thing



also, you swear the u.s. was fair about that, there was another incident where they shot a car full of people, then a crowd of 200 people came over to pull dead bodies out of the car, and the helicopter returned, shot at the car with 200 people crowded around to 'make sure the insurgents were dead'

in a war killing civilians to get to who you need to is never right, other wise why are we waging war against people who toppled our towers on 9-11? are we better than them somehow






please note THIS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007_Baghdad_airstrike#Leaked_video_footage


contains the correct facts, they were indeed cameras, but to make prisoner #1 point more correct, that team was there to support a team who had been under fire all morning, so really why civilians were walking around, i don't know. those reporters have always been crazy, i guess they finally paid for it.


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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: imachavel]
    #13799143 - 01/16/11 08:47 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Didn't you claim that Obama wanted to legalize marijuana?

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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: imachavel]
    #13800172 - 01/17/11 12:05 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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too many people to reply to, entheogenicpeace, i agree

prisoner #1, good point, but those WERE cameras





really, then please show us a similar camera, lengthy lens with a short
shade, nice straight tube like camera about 16" or longer

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if that guy was an insurgent helping his friend, he wasn't about to hand him weapons, the guy was crawling on the floor, when someone is running and crawling on the floor, there is no point continuing to shoot them, that guy HAD no rocket launcher.




no one hands the dying man a weapon, the insurgents collect survivors and weapons in order to make it look like the coalition forces have killed civilians, anyway, why are the 'reporters' hanging out with insurgents, didnt they expect the end up in a fire fight?


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also, in the beginning of the video, you see the men shaking hands and one guy throws up a geeky peace sign, if those were insurgents they sure were cocky that day.




they seem to be cocky most days, up until 22mm rounds start shredding them








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in a war killing civilians to get to who you need to is never right, other wise why are we waging war against people who toppled our towers on 9-11? are we better than them somehow




collateral damage, civilians are informed not to fuck with any bodies
and to clear the area, common sense says clear  the area when the
military is shooting live ammo into a vehicle, common sense says take
cover and dont poke your head out until you know the area is clear,
start collecting bodies and you're asking to be shot, let the marked
medics attend to the wounded

it's pretty simple, cant understand simple, maybe death is best





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please note THIS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007_Baghdad_airstrike#Leaked_video_footage


contains the correct facts, they were indeed cameras, but to make prisoner #1 point more correct, that team was there to support a team who had been under fire all morning, so really why civilians were walking around, i don't know. those reporters have always been crazy, i guess they finally paid for it.




armed civilians, outside, walking into an area where active and ongoing
battles were being fought and 2 reporters happened to be with them?
there were at least 3 AKs in the video, I showed images with 2, and just
because the video was confirmed as authentic doesnt mean that the
'camera' was a camera or the 'reporter' carrying it was a reporter, the
profile of the device certainly fits the profile of an anti tank weapon
and the actions of th man carrying it in conjunction with the fact that
he was running around with insurgents, it sure makes it look suspicious

maybe you can selsect the professional video camera that fits the
profile of that saab at4

here's one with a long lens, doesnt quote look the same



here's one that kinda tube shaped, doesnt really fit the profile though




this


certainly is longer than Noor-Eldeen's camera and the shade doesnt match the profile


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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #13800198 - 01/17/11 12:08 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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The quote in your sig, while apparently based in an actual quote, has been embellished to the point that it is now a fabrication.





right, I took the liberty of using the liberal version, you know, altered beyond recognition

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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13809325 - 01/18/11 04:56 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The Dims are the war mongers.  They figured out how to trick the Republicans into making themselves look like they're the one's that started the war and then the Dims blame the Republicans for it.  Kennedy (Democrat) started the Vietnam war and Nixon (Republican) stopped it.  FDR was a Democrat and he was president during WWII.

Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction


"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.
Poison gas and biological weapons were found in Iraq. Sadam used poison gas on the Kurds and against Iran."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002



"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002


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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13811971 - 01/19/11 12:33 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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The quote in your sig, while apparently based in an actual quote, has been embellished to the point that it is now a fabrication.





right, I took the liberty of using the liberal version, you know, altered beyond recognition





i really don't know how from that distance you can tell. maybe there is no 'confirmed' report, considering that in the report they say they killed 2 reuters reporters but then the no one is denying the army found them with rocket launchers.

i think i can safely say i wasn't there and from that distance can't confirm what they were holding, they sure did look cocky though, for people who got shredded, i'll tell you that.


but if you watch the video of of them shooting the missile at the building, you see these people holding SOME thing in their hand, and you can see it swing back and forth, like it's a dog leash or something. i mean to be honest you have to watch the 39 minute version. then these people just 'holding something' run into a building, and the helicopter levels the building and jeez it's like a condo complex could have 20 rooms inside and just why not fucking level the whole thing.


i guess the truth is war sucks. if I was watching someone get their head cut off on t.v. I'd want to fly through in a helicopter and fucking blow up every house, cuz who would care. those insurgents are piece of shit fuckers.


but when you watch a video of a guy crawling around and the helicopter circles back around to blow the guy to bits, you know the dudes in the cock pit are cold as shit and there is no doubt about that.


so maybe the moral is: WAR IS WRONG. and to end it, you gotta do some wrong ass stuff.

hey, I could live without war. as a matter of fact, I probably live BECAUSE I DON'T experience it. If I had, I probably wouldn't be here, isn't that kind of how it goes?


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Re: this is what bush spent money on [Re: GI_Luvmoney]
    #13811991 - 01/19/11 12:37 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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The Dims are the war mongers.  They figured out how to trick the Republicans into making themselves look like they're the one's that started the war and then the Dims blame the Republicans for it.  Kennedy (Democrat) started the Vietnam war and Nixon (Republican) stopped it.  FDR was a Democrat and he was president during WWII.

Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction


"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.
Poison gas and biological weapons were found in Iraq. Sadam used poison gas on the Kurds and against Iran."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002



"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002





i don't care about dems and really could care less about clinton. But because I want to see your point magnified, I'd like it if you could exemplify it with some quotes showing obama supports the war. I'm not saying he does, I'm not saying he doesn't, I just want to see it quoted, thank you


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