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Ex-CIA accuses Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence
    #1378756 - 03/15/03 06:00 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Ex-CIA accuses Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence [Re: dee_N_ae]
    #1378937 - 03/15/03 07:47 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

He's not manipulating evidence he's just rewriting the truth, doublethink, aferall the party's new slogans are:

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Am I the only person that feels like they're living in the beginning of the Ingsoc revolution of 1984? Maybe I'll change my nick to Winston Smith. This is a fucked up world. :ooo:


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Re: Ex-CIA accuses Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1379012 - 03/15/03 08:21 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

this website is doomed. too much freethink


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Re: Ex-CIA accuses Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence [Re: rhizo]
    #1393050 - 03/19/03 09:34 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

*cough*

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VIPS member Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA veteran who gave intelligence briefings to top Reagan officials before retiring in 1990, said the administration has not made the case that Iraq has ties to Al Qaeda and is providing information that does not meet an intelligence professional's standard of proof.

"It's been cooked to a recipe, and the recipe is high policy," McGovern said. "That's why a lot of my former colleagues are holding their noses these days."
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McGovern and others in this group say it's no secret that the material leaked to members of Congress or administration officials frequently is one-sided and gives a narrow picture of the entire outlook.

The group said officials who act as would-be whistle-blowers can use the same method as those now handing out information -- giving it over to members of Congress who can both protect them and show the entire picture.

"They have to basically put conscience before career," said Patrick Eddington, a VIPS member and former CIA agent who resigned in 1996 to protest what he describes as the agency's refusal to investigate some of the possible causes of Gulf War veterans' medical problems.

Vince Cannistraro, a former CIA counterterrorism chief, said he saw little chance of CIA analysts going public to contradict the Bush administration.

"Sure, there's a lot of disagreement among analysts in the intelligence community on how things are going to be used [by policy-makers]," he said. "But you are not going to see people making public resignations. That would mean giving up your career."
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These are just excerpts...


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Re: Ex-CIA accuses Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence [Re: dee_N_ae]
    #1393111 - 03/19/03 09:52 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Ex-CIA?

Possably against the war?

............now why would he do such a thing?  :tongue:


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Re: Ex-CIA accuses Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence [Re: Murex]
    #1393775 - 03/20/03 03:39 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe he is aware of the long term consequences and wants what's best for his country.


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Re: Ex-CIA accuses Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1396822 - 03/21/03 03:45 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Are you the same rail_gun from a year or so ago?


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