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- Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia -
    #1378162 - 03/15/03 10:40 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

The World Health Organization has received over 150 reports worldwide of people falling ill with this respiratory infection.  Symptoms include a fever in excess of 38.5?C/101.3?F

There have been some deaths and an entire hospital staff in Vietnam and many other hospital workers have been infected.  The disease has been found in Canada, and two infected individuals have passed through the US (one in Atlanta), but thus far there are no reports of the infection in the US. 

Sounds like this could be a serious threat... let's all go watch 12 Monkeys :crazy:

Here's some links if you're interested:
Toronto Star Article (quite in depth)

MSNBC Article with a link to a good Video

Rueters link on Yahoo ! News
 


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: geokills]
    #1378263 - 03/15/03 11:34 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

yeah sketchy stuff, they think it is a new virus...
some more links:

Straits Times (Singapore)

who.int - the world health organisation



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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: geokills]
    #1378273 - 03/15/03 11:37 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

let's all go watch 12 Monkeys :crazy:

 



Stephen King's "Stand by me" is also a good one  :crazy: 

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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: Agarico]
    #1378285 - 03/15/03 11:43 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I want some Atypical Pneumonia. :smile:

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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: pleasesmokemarijuana]
    #1382859 - 03/17/03 04:58 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Scary shit man!


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: geokills]
    #1420228 - 03/31/03 05:27 PM (21 years, 25 days ago)

SARS

Severe Acute Respitory Syndrom.

The good news is, it doesn't kill everyone it infects, like meningigitis.

The bad news is, it's airborn.

Be prepared for the new aides. If they can't cure the common cold, they probably can't cure its bigger, older brother.


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #1420276 - 03/31/03 06:05 PM (21 years, 25 days ago)

Normally, i wouldn't give a fiddler's fuck, BUT when you have 2 hospitals in your immeadiate area close down and see people wearing sterilized masks at the grocery store where you have shopped comfortably for a few years the reality of SARS hits home :frown: 


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: geokills]
    #1420522 - 03/31/03 08:56 PM (21 years, 25 days ago)

Yes, this is very concerning, I hope they find the cure for this really soon.
I will be traveling through Toronto on Thursday, and you can bet your dollars that I will be wearing a surgical mask through the airport...
I'd rather look dorkie than dead!  :smirk:   


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: LiquidSmoke]
    #1420580 - 03/31/03 09:41 PM (21 years, 25 days ago)

No, it's not airborne. It can be spread through coughing though, from little droplets, but it is not airborne.

4% death rate, the risk is not that high. The odds of you actually getting it are very slim. So, calm down you nervous twits.


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: Phluck]
    #1420801 - 04/01/03 12:03 AM (21 years, 25 days ago)

hmm, it acts alot like the bubonic plauge id say, the mortaity rate is low, but then we have alot better health care then in the dark ages. you think its a low risk now? wait until summer, when the humidity is high, evryone is out, mosquitos start biting, or wait til it hits a cities heroin addict ppulation, OR a city with a severe rat infestation that interacts with people enough for fleas to transmit the disease.
or what if it hits the third world, maybe it already has and nobody cares. after all nobody gives a fuck about starving children with all hooplah.

they actually havent identified the virus yet, they think its a coronavirus resembling herpes or measles.

thats too bad, because chances are anyone tested will have had these ailments and the virus' found would be present anyway.

perhaps most of the cases reported are simply pnemonia, people get it all the time.
only the DEAD ones are sars. again i say WAIT till it hits the rat and mosquito population.

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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: Mitchnast]
    #1420881 - 04/01/03 01:07 AM (21 years, 25 days ago)

i was just sick as shit too.
had waves of high fever.  coughing like a madman.  massive everlasting headaches.  my whole body felt sore.  couldn't eat much...just shittiness. 
and it seems everyone around me become sick at the same time.

i definately get bit by mosquitos at least once a day :mad: and my state has a huge influx of people from asia.  but i feel a little better.  i don't think i had sars...but i don't know.  i was definately down for the count though.  not an average sicknes for me...but i don't get sick very often at all.


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: felix]
    #1421232 - 04/01/03 07:32 AM (21 years, 25 days ago)

Its not that the people that are in the hospital with SARS are being cured, they're just prolonging their death.

The other thing I've been thinking is, what if SARS doesn't even exist? What if the people that have died are just people that would have died in the last month anyways.....the people in the hospital just have a cold, broncitis, strep, the flu....and the media and government is just trying to scare us? Maybe this is all a ploy to to get the Canadian's to go to war.....this virus is a terrorist virus that was dropped on us by iraq....and they're just blaming the asians......or I could just be paranoid....everything about SARS is pretty vauge tho


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: Gillette]
    #1421904 - 04/01/03 06:14 PM (21 years, 24 days ago)

conspiracy theories are SO easy to come up with. i have to stop myself from thinking them up. but, what if....


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: Gillette]
    #1423748 - 04/02/03 04:31 PM (21 years, 23 days ago)

No, they are being cured. Only 4% of the people who get it die. With the flu, it's 7%.

Also, Mitchnast, how do we know that it can be transmitted by mosquitos?


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: felix]
    #1423764 - 04/02/03 04:37 PM (21 years, 23 days ago)

"i was just sick as shit too.
had waves of high fever. coughing like a madman. massive everlasting headaches. my whole body felt sore. couldn't eat much...just shittiness.
and it seems everyone around me become sick at the same time."

Uh, dude, that just sounds like a normal stomach virus. This is nothing new, people have been getting them for all of recorded history.

I think people catch things like that on average, every two years. The reason the people around you all got it at the same time was because one of you had it, and spread it to the rest of you.

How come we come up with shitty names for diseases now?

If this surfaced in the 1800's, it'd probably be called the Sputtles.

Or Chink Pneumonia.



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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: Phluck]
    #1423782 - 04/02/03 04:43 PM (21 years, 23 days ago)

uh dude..kinda wierd when supposedly a 'new virus' is discoved and everyone you know gets a little sick. :smirk: i'd call it more of a head cold though...


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: geokills]
    #1424761 - 04/02/03 10:48 PM (21 years, 23 days ago)

Stop living in fear.


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: Phluck]
    #1424947 - 04/02/03 11:46 PM (21 years, 23 days ago)

I've never died from the flu before. I'd be frightened if everytime I got the flu I had to get checked out for some deadly illness.

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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: felix]
    #1427292 - 04/03/03 09:45 PM (21 years, 22 days ago)

"uh dude..kinda wierd when supposedly a 'new virus' is discoved and everyone you know gets a little sick. i'd call it more of a head cold though... "

No, it's not that weird. At any given time, a few million people the US probably have colds, and are spreading it amongst the people they know.


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: Phluck]
    #1427611 - 04/04/03 12:43 AM (21 years, 22 days ago)

i guess it just a neat little coincidence then...how we're all healthy individuals, living in a tropical climate and all getting sick at the same exact time. while some infectious flu is going around....yeah, it's not wierd.


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: felix]
    #1429670 - 04/04/03 06:09 PM (21 years, 21 days ago)

today they announced that it may be a hybrid of an std and a virus, chlemidia i think they have an article about it on cnn if anyone is intrested, it is in the health section today

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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: felix]
    #1432998 - 04/06/03 04:06 AM (21 years, 20 days ago)

nows a good time to buy a crate of 99 cent surgical masks, and then sell them on the corner to $5 a peaice in ziplock bags with a slip of paper calling them sars masks, explaining control meathods. mask care, and regular weekly mask replacment contacts.

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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: Mitchnast]
    #1433029 - 04/06/03 05:08 AM (21 years, 20 days ago)

LoL..i already have a box of surgical grade masks.  they look just like the ones that the surgeons use too.  had them for a long time from previous stuff...that's a damn good idea.  :laugh:


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: Cherk]
    #1433717 - 04/06/03 03:38 PM (21 years, 19 days ago)


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: felix]
    #1434460 - 04/06/03 09:12 PM (21 years, 19 days ago)

"i guess it just a neat little coincidence then...how we're all healthy individuals, living in a tropical climate and all getting sick at the same exact time. while some infectious flu is going around....yeah, it's not wierd."

No, it's not weird at all.

A) It's not a flu.
B) Your symptoms obviously didn't match SARS.
C) Getting sick is not weird. Even if there is some disease on the news at the time. It's just so utterly normal and everyday that there is no good reason to think that there was a connection.
D) It would be more weird if you and your friends all got sick at different times.


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Re: - Highly Infectious Atypical Pneumonia - [Re: Phluck]
    #1435327 - 04/07/03 04:27 AM (21 years, 19 days ago)

Quote:

i don't think i had sars



but what are the symptoms of SARS? 
symptoms i had were fever, heacaches...slight muscle aches.  like i just got done with a good game of football.  maybe in canada getting sick is so utterly normal and everday.  i still have an annoying cough though..and today i heard a couple different neighbors coughing while i was outside washing the car.

i'm not saying i had sars.
seeing this thread while i was sick was wierd, but maybe not for you...you sickly canadian.  :smirk:


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I.V. Sodium Ascorbate Cures SARS. - [Re: felix]
    #1471269 - 04/18/03 06:34 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

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SARS can be CURED by I.V. SODIUM ASCORBATE.

http://www.orthomed.com/vomiting.htm

http://www.orthomed.com/civprep.htm

Maybe open-minded shroomers have a survival advantage.

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Re: I.V. Sodium Ascorbate Cures SARS. - [Re: elphinstone]
    #1472770 - 04/19/03 08:48 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Well that's a relief.

/me moons SARS


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Re: I.V. Sodium Ascorbate Cures SARS. - [Re: friartuck]
    #1484059 - 04/22/03 08:24 PM (21 years, 3 days ago)

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Shroomer Heal Thyself.
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Apparently there are not too many physicians or hospitals willing to administer the IV ASCORBATE cure.

The only solution might be to take ascorbic acid orally (in water), titrating to bowel tolerance.

http://www.orthomed.com/titrate.htm

http://www.orthomed.com/nonrate.htm

http://www.orthomed.com/klenner.htm

http://www.orthomed.com/Nile.htm

http://www.orthomed.com/xref.htm

Stay healthy.

Gotta run :smile:

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Re: I.V. Sodium Ascorbate Cures SARS. - [Re: elphinstone]
    #1486837 - 04/23/03 04:33 PM (21 years, 2 days ago)

Got any info from a different source?


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Re: I.V. Sodium Ascorbate Cures SARS. - [Re: Phluck]
    #1487354 - 04/23/03 07:54 PM (21 years, 2 days ago)

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Unfortunately, only Dr. Klenner and Dr. Cathcart have been using high-dose
ascorbate to cure or ameliorate viral infections since 1949.

Copy and paste the following into GOOGLE for more info:

+klenner +ascorbate -"http://www.orthomed.com" -orthomed -cathcart

There have been some detractors such as QUACKWATCH, but the numbers of cases
cured speak for themselves.

You decide.

Good luck.

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Re: I.V. Sodium Ascorbate Cures SARS. - [Re: elphinstone]
    #1615939 - 06/06/03 11:54 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

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Shroomer Heal Thyself.

Vitamin C (sodium ascorbate) fights SARS article in the Toronto STAR.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?GXHC_gx_session_id_=395231105da526c6&pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_PrintFriendly&c=Article&cid=1052251689930&call_pageid=971358637177

The link is very long and you might have to copy and paste it into your browser
location bar in sections (^C ^V) if you can't click on it directly.

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Re: I.V. Sodium Ascorbate Cures SARS. - [Re: elphinstone]
    #1617475 - 06/07/03 11:46 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Whoa, that guy's a total salesman hehe..
"What is not getting across, for whatever reason, is that the amount of intravenous sodium ascorbate necessary to take out SARS is truly massive, like perhaps 120 to 180 grams a day or more .... Let us not fool around with phony low doses that will not work."

He complains that some people refer to doses such as four grams as megadoses. "For these purposes, four grams is ridiculously inadequate."

Can taking hundreds of grams of vitamin C really be a benefit?  That sounds kinda crazy to me :smirk:
 


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