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OfflineVerrin Rabe
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Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips?
    #13764939 - 01/10/11 06:34 PM (13 years, 20 days ago)

I've got a really beautiful Chicken of the Woods Agar plate, and am thinking of growing it, on account of it being delicious.

Has anyone done this before? I'd love some ideas on what sorts of substrates to use, and temp. ranges.



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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: Verrin Rabe]
    #13767094 - 01/11/11 01:58 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

i'd also love to know this.....

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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: FractalXplora]
    #13767544 - 01/11/11 06:41 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Mee too ...

I haven't seen it cultivated yet.  If you manage to do it, please post lots of pictures and describe your materials & method!

Thanks & good luck.


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: Verrin Rabe]
    #13767753 - 01/11/11 08:38 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

I know that GGMM(Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms) by Paul Stamets
does not have Chicken of the woods listed at all. This I assume means
that it does not do well indoors.

That being says Paul`s other book Mycelium Running does have a Chapter
on Laetiporus sulphureus here is a small exert that might help you out
a little:

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Natural Habitat:
First appearing in late spring and growing through
early fall, growing primarily on Oaks. The conifer loving L.
conifericola prefers hemlock(Sister species found west of the Rocky
Mountains.)

Natural Method of Cultivation: Inoculating stumps or logs with plug
or rope spawn. If stumps are checkered with fissures, then I
recommend inserting plug spawn directly into he crack for fast
growth.

Season and Temp range for Mushroom Formation:
Primarily a summer
mushroom, fruiting at 60-80F, maturing late in the season.
"

There is about two pages of info on Chicken of the woods, I am not
going to post it all here, I just posted what I feel was important
and pertaining to your question. I would recommend grabbing the book
Mycelium Running to anyone who does not have it. It is an invaluable
resource in our hobby.

http://www.amazon.com/Mycelium-Running-Mushrooms-Help-World/dp/1580085792/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1294689759&sr=8-1


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #13767967 - 01/11/11 10:11 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

I gag on chicken of the woods.  Mrs Rabbit likes the bitter taste, but if I was starving to death in the forest, it would still be a tough decision to force that thing down.  I'd have to be near a creek to kill the aftertaste.  That does appear to be a Hemlock tree.
RR


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #13768178 - 01/11/11 11:09 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

I think there's a copy of mycelium running around here somewhere.

I'll post pics and details when I get it going.

Cheers.


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: Verrin Rabe]
    #13768197 - 01/11/11 11:12 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

:goodluck:


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #13769794 - 01/11/11 04:06 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Paul Stamets sells plug spawn of Chicken of the Woods thru his website. He suggests inoculating stumps with the spawn. I think LARGE logs might also work - not the small six inch diameter logs used for shiitake, but more like 18 inch diameter or larger.

My own attempts at fruiting this on sawdust have not been successful. The mycelium is light and fluffy - the blocks have no structural integrity to them at all. I think it needs to be grown in a solid chunk of wood, and I suspect it may require some sort of external co-factor, like bacteria or another fungus, to spur it into fruiting, but that's really just me guessing.


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: frankenstoen]
    #13770300 - 01/11/11 05:44 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Well here is an unbiased opinion on Chicken of the woods.

Scroll wayyyy to the bottom of the page in the link, it's the last article on the page.

http://www.thesneeze.com/steve-dont-eat-it/

There is a detailed write up on it's appearance and fruiting times here....

http://www.thesneeze.com/mt-archives/cat_brainwatch_timeline.php


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: Peterthinks]
    #13770561 - 01/11/11 06:28 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Man, I love Steve Don't Eat It. He's where I first found out about chicken of the woods, long before I was ever interested in growing mushrooms.


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: Verrin Rabe]
    #13770666 - 01/11/11 06:43 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

good luck on your grow...i'll be keeping n eye on it if you choose to post:thumbup:

just noticed your location. not to far from me ic being in ns myself..
you ever looking for some edible cultures give me a PM :smile: glad to help out!

where did you get the culture from if you dont mind me asking?

edit: sorry i have no help on this culture  :shrug:
some more goood luck!


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: hcrider]
    #13774315 - 01/12/11 11:45 AM (13 years, 18 days ago)

Quote:

hcrider said:
good luck on your grow...i'll be keeping n eye on it if you choose to post:thumbup:

just noticed your location. not to far from me ic being in ns myself..
you ever looking for some edible cultures give me a PM :smile: glad to help out!

where did you get the culture from if you dont mind me asking?

edit: sorry i have no help on this culture  :shrug:
some more goood luck!




Had a chicken pop out of the ash tree in our front yard. First year it's ever done so.

So we grabbed some, ate it, and then cultured it to agar.


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: hcrider]
    #13774586 - 01/12/11 12:55 PM (13 years, 18 days ago)

Good luck! During the past years I only came across one reported cultivation attempt which lead to formation of primordia.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/y807070501n12kr8/

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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: Mycelio]
    #13886848 - 02/01/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Does anyone have access to that paper?

Ive got some primordium forming.



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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13890249 - 02/01/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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HerbBaker said:
Does anyone have access to that paper?

Ive got some primordium forming.






I have it. Though, not sure on the legality of sending it to you. Can you send me your email so we can discuss it further? :wink:

:EDIT: Scratch that. It's a two page paper with all of the necessary information on the first page which can be viewed on the website.


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: JSU]
    #13892135 - 02/02/11 05:01 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I got it, thanks! There is a protocol on the cultivation of this species that was developed by an Israeli.

If any has that, please share it.


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: HerbBaker]
    #13892663 - 02/02/11 09:01 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

HerbBaker said:
I got it, thanks! There is a protocol on the cultivation of this species that was developed by an Israeli.

If any has that, please share it.




If you can find a journal/article I can try to get it.


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: JSU]
    #17754774 - 02/06/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 11 months ago)

can someone please send me this paper? i am otherwise about to spend 55 dollars on it where i have located it.


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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: AlabamaApe]
    #17755900 - 02/06/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)
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Are you talking about the paper that Mycelio linked to?
ORGANIC ACIDS AND CARBOHYDRATES FROM Laetiporus sulphureus FRUITING BODIES

If not, what paper are you referring to?  I or someone else can very likely get it for you without you having to resort to paying that ridiculous price.  :smile:

EDIT: For posterity's sake, here is the relevant bit (the growth parameters) in case the PDF ever gets a DMCA takedown:
Quote:

We used a culture of L. sulphureus (LS-BG-0804 strain) isolated and grown as before [1].  Fruiting bodies were grown under laboratory conditions in chambers at 21°C without low-temperature stimulation on sterile sunflower shell substrate.  Immature fruiting bodies (primordia) appeared 14 d after the substrate was fully colonized with regular air-spray moistening.

[1]: S. V. Agafonova, D. N. Olennikov, G. B. Borovskii, and T. A. Penzina, Khim. Prir. Soedin., 569 (2007).





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Re: Thinking of Growing Chicken of the Woods, any Tips? [Re: Wingman4l7]
    #17756274 - 02/06/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 11 months ago)

Not the same, i'll find the link, how do i get the one you linked without paying them 35 dollars?


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