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Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine?
#13725507 - 01/03/11 03:54 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ever since i learned that it is possible to go sit in the presence of a Bodhisattva and experience complete freedom it has consumed my desire. I wish i could drop school, work, everything to travel to India to go and experience this but i cant. Oh this life can be torture. Also has anyone ever sat in the presence of a guru?
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: LustfulLinsanity]
#13725585 - 01/03/11 04:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Guru doesn't have to be in physical form. Have you tried allowing some space in the here and now for it to come through?
Guru = Self
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: c0sm0nautt] 1
#13725594 - 01/03/11 04:15 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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He can sit with me. Guru=self=Icelander
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: Icelander]
#13725743 - 01/03/11 04:46 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea i know that the guru doesnt have to be outside of myself, but i think it would greatly speed up the process to freedom from the mind to sit with an external guru to take a piece of that space with me. And there are times of space and freedom but they do not last, especially when around other people the mind has a strong grip, and brings suffering.
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: LustfulLinsanity]
#13726188 - 01/03/11 06:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, there's a pair of mirrored sliding closet doors in front of my meditation rug.
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#13726245 - 01/03/11 06:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do you see my face when you meditate?  We are all one.
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: Icelander]
#13727770 - 01/04/11 01:53 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any guru that follows Vedanta would be a good choice if you are serious about attending a satsang. I found the disciples of Swami Dayananda Saraswati to be particularly good. The "I don't know what to say" and the laughing thing is common around many genuine gurus. It is something called Anand shakti or "Bliss energy". Go to a Buddhist or Hindu practice center and ask if any gurus are visiting. Be careful of fraud gurus, most of the real ones are humble and blissful, while most of the frauds are showy with an enterage. Also you can read books by gurus or wisdom books such as the Bhagavad Gita or Guru Granth Sahib, Good luck on your quest.
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Edited by Eywa_devotee (01/04/11 01:56 AM)
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#13744150 - 01/06/11 09:30 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Eywa_devotee said: Any guru that follows Vedanta would be a good choice if you are serious about attending a satsang. I found the disciples of Swami Dayananda Saraswati to be particularly good. The "I don't know what to say" and the laughing thing is common around many genuine gurus. It is something called Anand shakti or "Bliss energy". Go to a Buddhist or Hindu practice center and ask if any gurus are visiting. Be careful of fraud gurus, most of the real ones are humble and blissful, while most of the frauds are showy with an enterage. Also you can read books by gurus or wisdom books such as the Bhagavad Gita or Guru Granth Sahib, Good luck on your quest.
That's so cute. Icelander and I were doing all that before you were born.
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#13744189 - 01/06/11 09:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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As far as we know?
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: LustfulLinsanity]
#13746044 - 01/07/11 05:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I really think you should go, its rare someone can be humble enough to go & sit with a Guru, and it can really help
Infact i'd say its one of the only ways to truly become free, as if your holding something back then you ain't surrendering, recognizing a true Guru & surrendering to them takes humility & real intense desire for the truth, all this 'been there done that' or 'i don't need a guru the guru is within' stuff... its all bondage, its all posturing, failing to understand the paradox of already being free yet needing help to become free.
Even the Guru's who 'found it themselves' still surrendered to a form of the Infinite, like Ramana surrendered to Arunachala as his Guru, or you surrender to an idea of the Absolute/God/Infinity as all powerful (idea is still a form)
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: Chronic7]
#13746186 - 01/07/11 07:16 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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surrender.. and then what ? 
how about.. know the truth ? then what ?
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Seeking truth IS THE BONDAGE. An obsession over an everlasting mystery that would elude ITSELF if it could. or can it ?

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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: jivJaN]
#13746214 - 01/07/11 07:38 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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jivJaN said: Seeking truth IS THE BONDAGE.
Yes but if i never earnestly sought the truth then i would have remained in bondage, my experiencing of life would have stayed as the experience of suffering, it may have been an illusion but my experience would not confirm that, i'd still be experiencing suffering & believing it to be real, and that's the point here, freedom from suffering. Its really paradoxes all the way down.
When i hear people say stuff like you said it's usually just the mind pretending to know & not a direct experience, im NOT saying that's true for you at all, but just look at all the people on facebook pretending to be awakened, going around giving people advice like they know something, trying to save people that they say don't exist! When they obviously are not free themselves as a few days later you see them getting caught in ridiculous arguements over NOTHING
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: Chronic7]
#13746521 - 01/07/11 09:42 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ive done 2 ayahuasca ceremonies with Prem Baba, a guru from India/Brazil... very powerful, he has a wonderful presence ... my friend anuenue, only 24 and 6 years into his meditation practice, but I consider him my guru as well, hes so blissful 
If you are ever over in India/Brazil/ or hawaii... I highly suggest checking out Prem Baba and attending one of his Daime ceremonies, it will accelerate the awakening process , OM
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: Chronic7]
#13751900 - 01/08/11 11:51 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Chronic said:
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jivJaN said: Seeking truth IS THE BONDAGE.
Yes but if i never earnestly sought the truth then i would have remained in bondage, my experiencing of life would have stayed as the experience of suffering, it may have been an illusion but my experience would not confirm that, i'd still be experiencing suffering & believing it to be real, and that's the point here, freedom from suffering. Its really paradoxes all the way down.
When i hear people say stuff like you said it's usually just the mind pretending to know & not a direct experience, im NOT saying that's true for you at all, but just look at all the people on facebook pretending to be awakened, going around giving people advice like they know something, trying to save people that they say don't exist! When they obviously are not free themselves as a few days later you see them getting caught in ridiculous arguements over NOTHING
Wow is it like that in england? Thats ridiculous but still a damn sight better than the kinds of shit i see on my facebook scroll....
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: roboto212]
#13753045 - 01/08/11 03:25 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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roboto212 said: Ive done 2 ayahuasca ceremonies with Prem Baba, a guru from India/Brazil... very powerful, he has a wonderful presence ... my friend anuenue, only 24 and 6 years into his meditation practice, but I consider him my guru as well, hes so blissful 
If you are ever over in India/Brazil/ or hawaii... I highly suggest checking out Prem Baba and attending one of his Daime ceremonies, it will accelerate the awakening process , OM
Not to bash Prem Baba but doesn't he travel around with an entourage and ride in fancy cars? I was going to attend one of his ceremonies but could not afford the $150 at the time. I did hear from the people that attended the daime service was very powerful, and he did get a few people I lived with at the time to stop smoking weed.
Also: He LOVES them little apple bananas, or so we were told multiple times after a work at the usual place they were held on P.F. Road.
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: JohnnyZampano]
#13753089 - 01/08/11 03:35 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's no reason a spiritual master couldn't still drive a fancy car, although personally i find it in bad taste.
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: g00ru]
#13753447 - 01/08/11 04:40 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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guruu said: There's no reason a spiritual master couldn't still drive a fancy car, although personally i find it in bad taste.
Of course driving an Escalade does not mean the man can't be a guru, but I agree it is in bad taste and not what I think of when I think guru. I know next to nothing about Prem Baba (except the apple bananas) and don't intended to bash. He is very popular in Hawai'i and seems to be helping people. If I ever decide to attend a work again on Hawai'i it would most likely be with him.
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: JohnnyZampano]
#13755439 - 01/08/11 11:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool, this summer i will most likely be returning to maui to visist my dad who lives there so maybe i will check him out. And i have yet to try ayahuasca and would love to do so.
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: g00ru]
#13756352 - 01/09/11 06:02 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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guruu said:
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The Chronic said:
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jivJaN said: Seeking truth IS THE BONDAGE.
Yes but if i never earnestly sought the truth then i would have remained in bondage, my experiencing of life would have stayed as the experience of suffering, it may have been an illusion but my experience would not confirm that, i'd still be experiencing suffering & believing it to be real, and that's the point here, freedom from suffering. Its really paradoxes all the way down.
When i hear people say stuff like you said it's usually just the mind pretending to know & not a direct experience, im NOT saying that's true for you at all, but just look at all the people on facebook pretending to be awakened, going around giving people advice like they know something, trying to save people that they say don't exist! When they obviously are not free themselves as a few days later you see them getting caught in ridiculous arguements over NOTHING
Wow is it like that in england? Thats ridiculous but still a damn sight better than the kinds of shit i see on my facebook scroll....
Well its facebook so most of the posters id see arguing about this stuff were advaita teachers from all over the world not just england, australia, london, lots from the USA...
Theres tons of advaita teachers on facebook, id give you names for you to add them but i don't think its a good idea, its honestly that bad
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Re: Anyone elses desire to go do Satsang with a Guru as overwhelming as mine? [Re: Chronic7]
#13757107 - 01/09/11 10:55 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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that's funny. Must be such a potential trap to become a spiritual teacher for a living.
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