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Offlinetaters
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bulk pinning
    #1375533 - 03/14/03 10:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

When my neighbor cases BRF cakes or birdseed he usually gets a pretty full pinset. When he cases straw and dung, he tends to get much larger but far fewer pins and fruits.

He is casing both with coir and verm, same incubation, same misting, same ratio of substrate depth to casing depth. So what gives?


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Re: bulk pinning [Re: taters]
    #1375563 - 03/14/03 10:45 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

casing surface.....

is he using a casing layer on his poop/ straw?


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Re: bulk pinning [Re: PooPs]
    #1375591 - 03/14/03 10:50 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, they are cased in coir/verm just like his birdseed and his BRF cakes.


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Re: bulk pinning [Re: taters]
    #1375767 - 03/14/03 11:51 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

what kind of containers do the dung/shit casings sit in?

are the fruiting chambers the same?


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Re: bulk pinning [Re: afoaf]
    #1376578 - 03/14/03 05:48 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

The straw/dung casings are in plastic tubs, about 12"x20"x5" deep. The BRF casings and the birdseed casings are usually put in breadpans that are 4"x8"x3" deep. My neighbor says the birdseed and the BRF casings pin and fruit like crazy, while the straw/dung puts out only a few huge pins & fruits. They are incubated and fruited identically.

He wants big AND plentiful!


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Re: bulk pinning [Re: taters]
    #1378283 - 03/15/03 01:42 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

what is coir?? ive heard a lot about it.. and i know its some osrt of animal bedding. but what IS it made of?


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Re: bulk pinning [Re: GWAR]
    #1378518 - 03/15/03 03:30 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Coir is made from shredded coconut husks. When mixed with verm it's an excellent casing material.


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Re: bulk pinning [Re: taters]
    #1378556 - 03/15/03 04:05 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Does your neighbor case before or after the first flush? This guy I know has a lot of the same questions as your neighbor.


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Re: bulk pinning [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #1378579 - 03/15/03 04:22 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

That is something my neighbor had not considered!

He has always cased his straw/dung immediately following full colonization. It will be interesting to see the result of an uncased first flush.

Thanks for the inspiration. 5 mushies for you.


Edited by taters (03/15/03 04:24 PM)


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Re: bulk pinning [Re: taters]
    #1378585 - 03/15/03 04:30 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

my theory:

poop and straw absorbs moisture more readily then brf cakes, which reduces moisture in adjacent stagnant air between casing + cake surface, therefor reducing knots+pins, i suggest some circulation of 100% rh air.... unless your already doing this, in which case i have no suggestions


pm me the results if you decide to try the circulation method.


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Re: bulk pinning [Re: taters]
    #1378593 - 03/15/03 04:34 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I believe Roadkill prefers not to case before the first flush, but many others recommend the opposite. This guy I know hasn't decided yet, and the day is fast approaching.


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Re: bulk pinning [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #1378954 - 03/15/03 07:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Coir is amazing even on its own. A lot less messy than vermiculite as well.


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