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How to make LSD *DELETED* * 4
    #13750027 - 01/07/11 09:32 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Post deleted by 1tokeovrtheline<p>Reason for deletion: book, new version in the works-things I didn't like about this one, etc. Really though the new version should be up very soon.


HERE IS THE NEW VERSION

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14097244















Disclaimer- Nothing in this document or related to it should be taken as advice, no one should ever do anything described in this document or related to this document in any way. This is purely for educational purposes. No one should read this. All website links and pictures are property of their respective websites. All characters and company references do not represent any real person or real company and all similarities are merely coincidental. Everything even remotely connected to this document or this ip address and/or computer even when different ip addresses are used are for educational purposes and any described events, seeming "advice" or anything else related to lsd (lysergic acid, lsd-25, ald-52, ergot, precursor materials, or any other even remotely related subject matter ie entheogens or any psychedelics) is fictional in nature, and is no associated in any way with actual illegal activity of any kind.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13750083 - 01/07/11 10:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: mattritt]
    #13750414 - 01/08/11 12:55 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: skatealex2]
    #13750856 - 01/08/11 05:40 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Never gonna be able to do this, but good thread.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: skatealex2]
    #13750979 - 01/08/11 07:07 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: OutThisLife]
    #13751034 - 01/08/11 07:44 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Im gonna give it a go tonight!

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #13751075 - 01/08/11 08:07 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

if you really are going to try it, seriously I recommend downloading the torrent and reading through some other links and stuff


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13751112 - 01/08/11 08:21 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

:lsdabc: :laugh:


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Curiousgeorge22]
    #13751199 - 01/08/11 08:55 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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6.HERE WE GO
Okay so there are quite a few ways to go about this. A lot of the older, well known methods like Hoffman’s and Shulgin’s are pretty good in certain ways, but the method most people seem to go by now is often called the novel Kasey Hardison method or something along those lines. It actually wasn’t invented by him at all (and I don’t mean anything against him, its just that people often spread misunderstandings). Actually I read through many syntheses, learning the same ones from different sources without even knowing it, and I soon realized the peptide coupling method Kasey is somewhat known for was done a long time ago and there are actually all sorts of “twists” on that general method. Anyways, this synthesis is ideal imo for the small time aspiring syd chemist as the cost is fairly low, materials and procedures are pretty basic, and with a little isomerization it will give good yield and purity. Also it builds very nicely off of the skills used in acid base extractions, so basically if you can make some bomb ass DMT you can probably make some pretty good LSD.










Here we go sounds just about right...

Still, I bet sourcing the chems is probably the most difficult part.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Humility]
    #13751215 - 01/08/11 08:59 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Also it builds very nicely off of the skills used in acid base extractions, so basically if you can make some bomb ass DMT you can probably make some pretty good LSD.




interesting but i find this doubtful


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: SurReality]
    #13751269 - 01/08/11 09:18 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

well I mean if you can make good dmt and know the theory and stuff enough to do it without following a guide, then that gives you a pretty good solid foundation for this method and learning it shouldn't be too out of your reach, and basically if you have good extraction skills then hydrolysis and column chromatography shouldn't be too hard to learn, and all the other stuff like vacuum filtration is pretty simple IMO, but idk maybe I'm jaded because I've researched it so much lol


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13751331 - 01/08/11 09:38 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i just couldn't compare an extraction to a synthesis... dmt is stupid easy to accomplish and requires pretty much no chemical supplies/equipment, sure following a guide is just following a guide but its going to be a challenge when you using/buying stuff you haven't used before.. also everyone would have followed a guide at one point or another to gain the understanding, some may not need a guide because they have the process memorized or they are inventing it.

dmt is just so simple, even making meth is considered 'easy' and that ain't as simple as a dmt extraction


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: SurReality] * 1
    #13751594 - 01/08/11 10:50 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

alright I guess perhaps I exaggerated, but I mean really its pretty easy compared to what some people would expect


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13752332 - 01/08/11 01:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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alright I guess perhaps I exaggerated, but I mean really its pretty easy compared to what some people would expect





Your crazy :eek: if you think making LSD would be even close to possible if one knows how to make DMT. DMT is like 5 easy steps with wine jugs.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: FUTURIST]
    #13752444 - 01/08/11 01:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I guess I've researched it so much I'm jaded cuz it really seems pretty easy, and no I never meant to say that its comparable to making dmt, just that if you are extremely skilled at acid base extractions then IMO the rest of it shouldn't be too hard to learn, but whatever, how about we just all agree its not as easy as dmt and move on


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13752471 - 01/08/11 01:49 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I'd think there's a huge difference between researching it and actually doing it. :wink:

Thanks for your effort though.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13752577 - 01/08/11 02:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Hell of a nice effort there.  Not sure any of us "kitchen chemists" would ever have the money, time, equipment, technique, ingredients and motivation to undertake manufacturing such a fragile molecule, but it sure makes for some interesting reading and daydreaming <sigh>.

I have a real problem (read personal moral dilema) with giving away or selling ANY psychoactive substance, so the notion of going through such an involved procedure only to fail nine times and succeed  ONCE (pretty realistic odds) for a solely personal supply of LSD pretty much shows why I'd never do this even if I could.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Nature Boy] * 1
    #13752828 - 01/08/11 02:51 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

No I can definitely make it, and it wasn't just research, I've learned the procedures necessary hands on for other things, but I think sadly LSD has been pushed into this underground, almost mythical place which makes it much more difficult to learn. If there was a site called the lysergery or something, videos, pictures, entire forums, etc devoted to the manufacture of LSD it wouldn't seem so difficult I think. Also one of the biggest things is that you can't really make LSD until you really know a lot about it whereas you can start growing weed or shrooms or whatever when you suck and work on it as you go. Imagine if you couldn't grow shrooms at all until you knew all the really advanced stuff, that's kind of what making LSD is like, its almost like a marathon of drug manufacture, but once you break it down and understand it bit by bit it's not such a crazy, insanely difficult mystery anymore


Anyone who really wants to make LSD I would encourage them to learn more and really research it a lot and see for yourself its not as difficult as people would like to believe

And as for cost, well by my calculations you could get started for around a thousand dollars or so (fairly small batch)

Part of the reason I quit making it myself was that I decided I didn't care about the money, LSD isn't my favorite drug so putting this much work into it doesn't really feel worth it, and the thing that needs to happen to make this drought everyone complains about end is for information about it to get out there

so go ahead and doubt me and believe I can't do it, that you can't do it, blah blah blah, I'm just going to ignore all the posts about myths, drama, rumors, and skepticism based on opinion.

If you have a real complaint about anything I say, let me know where I'm wrong, cite your sources, and please try to be mature enough about it to not try to turn this all into a big battle of egos, the point is not fighting, its spreading the information and coming together as a community to end the drought and really get the true facts out there


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13752847 - 01/08/11 02:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i love :lsdabc: too


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Curiousgeorge22]
    #13752857 - 01/08/11 02:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

What we need now is a thread on how to obtain the precursors!

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #13752867 - 01/08/11 02:58 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i always thought about creating a site called the lysergery but i think the DEA would shut it down pretty fast


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #13752885 - 01/08/11 03:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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What we need now is a thread on how to obtain the precursors!




That's in there, I mean I guess I could add quite a bit more on that subject, but I have info on how to do it (maybe it got cut out of the posted version, did you look at the torrent one?)


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13752912 - 01/08/11 03:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Wow crazy post, I only skimmed through it because, well I am not even thinking I could If I wanted too. But damn.. that is some research there.

Now would someone start making a shit load of this stuff and drop the prices back to what it was in the early 90's. I would :heart: you for it.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Curiousgeorge22]
    #13752917 - 01/08/11 03:06 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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i always thought about creating a site called the lysergery but i think the DEA would shut it down pretty fast




Depends on where you open the website at, I think. :smile:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: OutThisLife]
    #13753191 - 01/08/11 03:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

ok, I edited it, trying to trim away everything I thought wasn't too necessary or relevant so I could barely fit the actual synth parts in there. If you can read through the syntheses and understand it perfectly, almost see yourself going through the motions, and know how to make little corrections if needed, then I'd say you're golden knowledge wise

I had to take out the section on how to make blotter art, but I'll just make a new thread for that


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13754968 - 01/08/11 09:18 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Oh...I don't doubt for a minute that you could (or have) done it...I'm just saying I'd never bother.  The risk : reward ratio would be far too skewed in favor of risk...not only to my own safety and health during the manufacturing process from the reagents and ergot, but also from the "obviousness" of acquiring the precursors resulting in legal entanglement.

Lastly, its not exactly the kind of quick and easy down and dirty process that can be easily learned then surreptitiously performed to completion in your average home or business.

So...all in all...nah, I'll pass.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Nature Boy]
    #13757078 - 01/09/11 10:47 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

it would be soooooo much easier just getting some Cactus...

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: FUTURIST]
    #13758829 - 01/09/11 05:28 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I believe its in this underground because of the process of it

You have to include the environment to

You can't just do this in a enclosed room or ventilated basement...  be it has to have nitrogen or something in it so nothing reacts to it.  Isolated.

The reason why labs are so small and not many BIG huge cook off's happen now adays is because exactly wt a lot are saying its risky business

Getting those chemicals would flag you for sure I wouldn't dare order a fucking thing off the net

You would have to do it from scratch

And i do believe the ones who are in on the scene  and "Producing" MAJOR quantity's

Are not just regular joes

9/10 these people the "cooks" have some sort of connection either legally or illegally.

This is all planned for decades to come production is put to a tee.

If your not in the loop I couldn't see how you would be able to pull this off easily without harming ur self or getting your self into trouble.




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And just for a side note :sun:
I duno if any of you had seen Photo's of LSD lab busts
But I assure you they don't look like no meth lab
LSD labs look top notch
Basically customized for the production
And It dosen't look to small scaled either even the smaller ones look professionally set up and I doubt $1000 Fucking dollars would get you real far....maybe a few beakers and a chromatography column after that your running on thin ice I believe.

There is a very good reason it is a well kept secret. Sure there are guides out there

But a video???

Step by Step?

Instructions?

Photo's of what to do?

Dream on lol

Leave it to the "Old hands" who where blessed with the power to recreate such a thing... they will deliver as they always have...All this is planned for years to come who, what, when, where and how.

:sunny:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: kelpfish]
    #13758872 - 01/09/11 05:35 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

do you have a more advanced method? that looks too easy

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: a2theDawG]
    #13758938 - 01/09/11 05:47 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I believe its in this underground because of the process of it

You have to include the environment to

You can't just do this in a enclosed room or ventilated basement...  be it has to have nitrogen or something in it so nothing reacts to it.  Isolated.

The reason why labs are so small and not many BIG huge cook off's happen now adays is because exactly wt a lot are saying its risky business

Getting those chemicals would flag you for sure I wouldn't dare order a fucking thing off the net

You would have to do it from scratch

And i do believe the ones who are in on the scene  and "Producing" MAJOR quantity's

Are not just regular joes

9/10 these people the "cooks" have some sort of connection either legally or illegally.

This is all planned for decades to come production is put to a tee.

If your not in the loop I couldn't see how you would be able to pull this off easily without harming ur self or getting your self into trouble.




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And just for a side note :sun:
I duno if any of you had seen Photo's of LSD lab busts
But I assure you they don't look like no meth lab
LSD labs look top notch
Basically customized for the production
And It dosen't look to small scaled either even the smaller ones look professionally set up and I doubt $1000 Fucking dollars would get you real far....maybe a few beakers and a chromatography column after that your running on thin ice I believe.

There is a very good reason it is a well kept secret. Sure there are guides out there

But a video???

Step by Step?

Instructions?

Photo's of what to do?

Dream on lol

Leave it to the "Old hands" who where blessed with the power to recreate such a thing... they will deliver as they always have...All this is planned for years to come who, what, when, where and how.

:sunny:




you should read the rest of it, it goes through all of that, but yeah people who are into acid manufacture and sale are definitely paranoid, that's why I got out of it

And yeah $1,000 bux will get you the basics (buying used stuff) but you can keep going and going and going, still $1,000 will give you decent results, no joke, but it won't allow you to make very much, so you'd need a lot more money to make big batches

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do you have a more advanced method? that looks too easy




it's real I assure you, but look through the links if you want more info, and also download the torrent

but yeah basically this method just cleaves the amide from the lysgeramides to give you lysergic acid which you then couple with diethylamine via a peptide coupling reagent, fairly simple yeah, but legit and honestly I think the other methods aren't too difficult either I just wouldn't want to work with hydrazine or anything like that


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: MCSteveyC]
    #13759378 - 01/09/11 07:09 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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What we need now is a thread on how to obtain the precursors!



...without getting caught.

Described as one of the most difficult drugs on the planet to synthesize.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13759415 - 01/09/11 07:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

If I were seriously researching with intent to produce LSD...I wouldn't post about it here or anywhere. I'm just far too paranoid.

1toke, somebody else already said...to research it and to do it are two very different things. I'm just wondering. Is this a hobby of yours for the research, just to gather this information and know that you can, or do you plan to follow through? I'm curious

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: quebus]
    #13759450 - 01/09/11 07:21 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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drr said:
If I were seriously researching with intent to produce LSD...I wouldn't post about it here or anywhere. I'm just far too paranoid.

1toke, somebody else already said...to research it and to do it are two very different things. I'm just wondering. Is this a hobby of yours for the research, just to gather this information and know that you can, or do you plan to follow through? I'm curious



If you download the torrent version it has a whole rambling story about it

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What we need now is a thread on how to obtain the precursors!



...without getting caught.

Described as one of the most difficult drugs on the planet to synthesize.





if you read the whole thread it has sections on how to not get caught


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13759536 - 01/09/11 07:35 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

This is the best post I have ever seen in my life. RIGHT ON!!!!

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13760026 - 01/09/11 08:58 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Smaller paragraphs might help.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Mushroom11]
    #13760120 - 01/09/11 09:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

This is a damn good thread OP!!!:thumbup:

sorry i gotta add: your now being stalked by a narc troll- mushroom11

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This is the best post I have ever seen in my life. RIGHT ON!!!!


but this "mushroom11" troll retard narc - DEF can't understand ANY PART of something this elaborate - what a fucknut :boot:  Seriously dumbass a.k.a. "mushroom11"- DON'T POST ON THIS SITE :eatadick:


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    #13760303 - 01/09/11 09:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I read through the first half of the torrent yesterday and found it interesting, I can definitely relate to all the paranoia. That has to be some of the freakiest shit, running into a whole bunch of cops thinking your busted for manufacturing. This was definitely worth posting, now the information is out there, common info we all have access to. I would love to learn how to do this just to know how, for the experience. Things are just so risky these days with the gov. on big brother mode. If I was out for money I would go for this but im just a humble tripper. You have my respect:sun:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Wise Toad]
    #13760931 - 01/09/11 11:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

so your trying to tell me acid doesnt come from the mold that you scrape off when you let toothpaste sit on orange peels.

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    #13760977 - 01/09/11 11:29 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Wise Toad]
    #13761427 - 01/10/11 12:53 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I read through the first half of the torrent yesterday and found it interesting, I can definitely relate to all the paranoia. That has to be some of the freakiest shit, running into a whole bunch of cops thinking your busted for manufacturing. This was definitely worth posting, now the information is out there, common info we all have access to. I would love to learn how to do this just to know how, for the experience. Things are just so risky these days with the gov. on big brother mode. If I was out for money I would go for this but im just a humble tripper. You have my respect:sun:




thanks man, it means a lot cuz I mean everyone gets big egos about it (ironic for a "hobby" which is all about dissolving or changing egos), and I just really don't want it to be about that so I tried to explain myself like you said, as a humble tripper, and really I think learning how to make lsd made me more humble cuz now I read tikhal and pikhal and other synths and realize I've only touched the tip of the iceberg, like to work on stuff nobodies studied yet...damn, there is some insane chemistry out there and compared to someone like shulgin I'm just a humble alchemist


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13761654 - 01/10/11 02:16 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I only wish i had the knowledge to do this safely.
Im so envious of you lol

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    #13761717 - 01/10/11 02:42 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: ShroomProphet]
    #13764075 - 01/10/11 03:24 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Unintentionally ingesting "from 50 mics to millirams" at a time when synthing probably doesnt help with paranoia either.

Also, remember we are talking about acid manufacturing here. Have to be careful with questions and not expect answers to things like "o when you made acid how much did you make? Where'd you buy your precursors? Research is different, so how was actually doing it?"

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: benton]
    #13768094 - 01/11/11 10:51 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I think a lot of what people think of lsd synthesis is overhyped about the fragility of the substance. light (mainly UV) and chlorine are the 2 most direct and likely damagers to the substance. yellow/red lightbulbs will reduce the UV, but the difference is negligible if you take the right precautions during the synth and did it in dim or dark conditions when possible (ie: waiting for mixture or seperation).

the effort/annoyance/inconvenience/cost one would save by not needing to use a nitrogen atmosphere and coloured lighting would probaly be negligible in the final, minute loss in purity or yield.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: klondike_bar]
    #13768097 - 01/11/11 10:52 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

also, the link isnt good past 10 downloads, is it the same as the direct text link?

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: klondike_bar]
    #13768875 - 01/11/11 01:18 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

definitely agree with the hype, but I guess the thing is that shitty lsd is pretty damn easy to make, but then to make the good shit you kind of have to have a little tweak here a little tweak there and here and here and there oh and over here, cuz ur talking about such a potent thing that purity can constantly be worked on, its like an ocd process to perfect it lol

really though if you just get an almost completely pure extraction and perform the hydrolysis perfectly, then you can simply separate out the lumi and iso lsd and come out with very pure product even with such a simple method


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: klondike_bar]
    #13768903 - 01/11/11 01:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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also, the link isnt good past 10 downloads, is it the same as the direct text link?



shit, I didn't realize rapidshare's thing had that limit, I just never used it that much, I'll find another place to upload it but I don't have a piratebay account or anything

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13768971 - 01/11/11 01:33 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Getting precursors is the hardest part no doubt..I'd say the best way to do it is to get Lysergic Acid through total synthesis, convert to Lysergic Acid monohydrate, and from there it's actually easy. Too many people are behind the times and think only a handful of people in the world can pull it off, that's silly. With Lysergic acid monohydrate, the synthesis can be explained in 2 paragraphs.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Eminence]
    #13769186 - 01/11/11 02:13 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

true, and btw there is the professor buzz total synthesis link somewhere in there
just check out the section where lysergic acid is synthesized, then proceed to couple it as explained later
and I'm sure the professor buzz synth is a little outdated, should be better synths for the lysergic acid out there (think I saw some in the rhodium cache)


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    #13769234 - 01/11/11 02:24 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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true, and btw there is the professor buzz total synthesis link somewhere in there
just check out the section where lysergic acid is synthesized, then proceed to couple it as explained later
and I'm sure the professor buzz synth is a little outdated, should be better synths for the lysergic acid out there (think I saw some in the rhodium cache)




Yeah I got the pdf for Professor Buzz Recreational Drugs already on my computer. What do you mean by "better"? Purer product? Higher yield? More convenient? Cuz I think the synth from Buzz is great. High yield pure product and easy once you get the right starting materials. But I'm gonna look for the synth you were talking about in the cache. Thanks for that. :thumbup:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Eminence]
    #13769239 - 01/11/11 02:26 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I just meant more convenient yeah, and yeah dude np if you find anything you should post the link, I'll dig around myself too cuz I'm sure I saw some collection of total syntheses somewhere


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13779530 - 01/13/11 10:35 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

1tokeovrtheline, Thanks. awesome post and reading material  :thaaannks: :dancingbacon:

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    #13779822 - 01/13/11 11:34 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

1 QUESTION PLZ, I DIDNT SEE WHERE I USE THE FOSTERES BEER, OR THE ORANGE PEELS, OR HOUSEHOLD CLEANING SUPPLIES/BATHUB, YOU SURE THIS IS RITE!!?

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Ogla]
    #13779828 - 01/13/11 11:35 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

awesome post 1toke now all we need is a new age timothy leary to spread the word although this would be moar difficult than in the 60s due to legal status.

as your attourney i advise u to drive at top speed and it`ll be a goddamn miracle if you make it to the hotel before u turn into a raging animal :crazy2:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: hidenseek]
    #13780051 - 01/13/11 12:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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1 QUESTION PLZ, I DIDNT SEE WHERE I USE THE FOSTERES BEER, OR THE ORANGE PEELS, OR HOUSEHOLD CLEANING SUPPLIES/BATHUB, YOU SURE THIS IS RITE!!?




he skipped that method because its "too easy", anyone can do it. go to the nearest etobicoke hardware store, and get started :smile:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: klondike_bar]
    #13780239 - 01/13/11 12:51 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I need to save the info and videos from this thread to add to my collection for later reading...

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Sanguine]
    #13781279 - 01/13/11 04:06 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Read through the entire thing and I must say I liked it quite a bit! Thanks man!

And try mediafire for filesharing. Or megaupload.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: fudge]
    #13781485 - 01/13/11 04:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Wonderful thread, but making LSD is much harder than reading about it. I really wish you the best in making it, but it is going to take a long time and a lot of work. Take it from someone who has done a year's plus worth of studying how to make amphetamine(with a chemistry background.) Its really hard. It would be awesome to see you succeed though. :laugh:

If you ever get stuck, there are a wonderful bunch of people over at the vespiary that would be more than happy to help you out.

Good luck!

P.S. Be really careful with hydrazine.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: DimensionWithin]
    #13781854 - 01/13/11 05:35 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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DimensionWithin said:Its really hard.




no it's not.

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P.S. Be really careful with hydrazine.



no need for it, if going by the hardisson method (which was actually pioneered by Nichols).
PyBOP is substituted for hydrazine, and it's rather non-toxic, safe to handle.

the easiest way going about all this is starting from seeds, not much of a challenge there.
arguably the toughest route, aside from a total synthesis, is starting from a fungal culture.

OP..nice compendium, btw


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: piracetam]
    #13782414 - 01/13/11 07:08 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

thanks fudge, I got a piratebay account (for some reason it would only register when I went through a proxy), so I think I'm going to use burnbit to host the file online and put it up on tpb

dimensionwithin thanks but I can't really make it now that I put this up (without severe paranoia) so I chose to put this up instead of making it, oh and learning to make this type of thing in school will take forever because you have to learn all the theory and math and etc etc-I just studied the processes which related to the task at hand and gained a decent understanding of the theory of it, but ask me about any other chemistry stuff and I'll draw a blank, that's why I consider myself an alchemist rather than a true chemist, but also do you mean "amphetamine" as in adderall and all that, or "amphetmines" as in meth...cuz dude that would be fucked up and a HUGE part of why I put this up is that I'd like to see more people making syd and shit like that than meth and crack and heroin

also piracetam you're right except for the "replacing hydrazine" part, maybe you meant replace it as a chemical needed, but the hydrazine route both hydrolyzes and bonds whereas pybop only bonds so you have to do the hydrolysis yourself beforehand-that hofmann dude was pretty genius! his route is all around a really good one if you have the equipment and skillzz and really if I was trying to make a pure product really fast I would go with his original method, but for starting out the "new" peptide coupling method (yeah made by nichols not hardison-nice) is more realistic for a "novice" and you won't blow anything up from dust particles or give yourself cancer like hydrazine


so I'm working on getting the new torrent up, but before I do I want to add in some more details (yes, more!) some of them from this post-such as starting with synthetic lysergic acid, as frylock91 brought up (its crazy I was thinking about putting that up the same day you posted it since so many want more about precursors) and some more links and things




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Re: How to make LSD [Re: piracetam]
    #13782436 - 01/13/11 07:11 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i saw something similar to this a long time ago and thought it seemed right. everyone else said it was bullshit so i disregarded, but you have done a much better job of researching and explaining. im going to go through this like 2 or 3 more times.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13782529 - 01/13/11 07:31 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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whereas pybop only bonds so you have to do the hydrolysis yourself beforehand




which is why hardisson used n,n-diethylmethylamine as an auxiliary base


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: piracetam]
    #13783044 - 01/13/11 09:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

yeah true, forgot to add some of that stuff about bases and stuff in there, but it will make it into the second torrented version, thanks


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13783077 - 01/13/11 09:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I've made LSD many times its a piece of piss!


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: L.S.Ste]
    #13783115 - 01/13/11 09:32 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

and i do solid-phase peptide synthesis in my living room, run lc-ms in the guest bathroom.
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Re: How to make LSD [Re: piracetam]
    #13784417 - 01/14/11 02:28 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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the easiest way going about all this is starting from seeds, not much of a challenge there.





So if someone wanted to try that would LSA freebase gunk be usable? I've never seen a tek that ends up with white LSA crystals.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Eminence]
    #13785736 - 01/14/11 11:34 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

no that gunk is just the first step, you need to really get a pure extraction, defat the shit out of it, extract and purify it like crazy with all the recrystallizations and stuff then hydrolize BUT I have read there is an extra step because claviceps purpurea extractions will leave you with all lysergamides so you can just hydrolize all the various alkaloids to give you lysergic acid but the seeds (I have HEARD, not sure if its true, cuz as far as my knowledge of it goes I didn't see anything in its make up that would explain this) basically has some extra junk that is present with the alkaloids so even after hydrolysis you aren't left with only lysergic acid so you need to do a special type of hydrolysis with an extra step or something, I know I figured this out a while ago but I forgot how to do the seeds method, I'll dig around some more and see if I can find that stuff again


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13785839 - 01/14/11 11:52 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

That'd be great, I'll also keep searching, but I know there are synths that don't require you to convert LSA to Lysergic Acid though.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13785957 - 01/14/11 12:20 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

:awesome:  thanks for sharing!


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13808890 - 01/18/11 03:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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How To Make

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1. Intro

So I’m not going to claim everything I say here is right. As I’ll explain later I never finished making my lsd





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No I can definitely make it, and it wasn't just research, I've learned the procedures necessary hands on for other things.






  Sounds to me like you don't know how to make it and you just found this file on the net.

  Get your facts straight, if you haven't successfully made LSD don't tell people you can make it.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: cubekyle]
    #13811526 - 01/18/11 10:53 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

XD get YOUR facts straight dude, I researched the fuck out of this shit, and you won't find anything that comes even close to this detailed on how to make it, I challenge you to find anything on the internet where I could've copied this from

and CAN and DID are two different things, I just hit the abort button

I said not everything may be right as in sometimes my chemistry knowledge is not so great, so for example perhaps I didn't describe the difference between amides and amines very well (I know I didn't) and any technical details may be off, but honestly this is a quick summary I wrote in one day, just sat down and typed it out, threw in a few things and there you go, believe it or not this is the short "get you started" thing, to actually type out every detail would be a few hundred pages and diagrams and shit, LSD manufacture nuh small time wanker ting bwoy

but no I really did not finish making it because the thing is the money involved is fucking insane, it kinda makes you an instant target, and I just decided that on my death bed I would rather look back and see that I worked hard and made an honest living, reached for my dreams or whatever and all that shit than getting rich fast off of making acid, and writing out what I know would help end the drought more than making it, cuz basically the main motive to make it would have to be greed (for me)


I won't post any kind of money figures on here but consider the yield can be around 0.01X initial ergot weight, so figure it out...a lot of money huh?


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13882472 - 01/31/11 02:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

probably deleting this pretty soon, so copy it all down asap if you still want it


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13882917 - 01/31/11 04:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Why?  Its all reasonable info and a good start for someone.  A lot of work went into your post, so why delete it?

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Nature Boy]
    #13883012 - 01/31/11 04:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

cuz I'm in the works of getting a book deal for a longer version


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Nature Boy]
    #13883021 - 01/31/11 04:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Great thread.  Seems like a lot of money to make acid.  But it can really be profitable if you are planning on selling it

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Cakk]
    #13883044 - 01/31/11 04:39 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

definitely, like I said there should be around 0.01 final yield, so take an ounce of ergot, figure out how much lsd that would make roughly, figure out how much money that would be-a shitttttt ton huh? don't post prices though please.

I decided though I would rather go for making legitimate money from writing a book on it than get all mixed up in the stress and shit


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Cakk]
    #13883048 - 01/31/11 04:40 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Not as expensive as you might think, or as hard.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Eminence]
    #13883137 - 01/31/11 04:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

oh shit, I misread that, I thought he said a lot of money IN it, and yeah dude it doesn't cost much, especially compared to the profit possible, and really if you are stupid/ghetto/creative enough you could do it for a couple hundred bux, but all your equipment would be made out of household plastics and look like a fuckin meth lab-not a good idea for lsd, but yeah realistically I'd say you can get away with a sort of minimalist approach for around $1,000


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13884265 - 01/31/11 08:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Wish I had the brains to do this. :confused:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13886230 - 02/01/11 04:43 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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cuz I'm in the works of getting a book deal for a longer version




OK..gotcha.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Nature Boy]
    #13886267 - 02/01/11 05:14 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Fantastic post, actually feasible!


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 4ACO-HAMeow]
    #13899682 - 02/03/11 01:26 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Countdown: 5 days


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13900057 - 02/03/11 02:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

can you make a Pictorial for this, i know how to Make , opium , DMT DXM and STB but LSD is a major thing i want to make. whenever i understand all the concepts i'll make a Pictorial for other Learners.
where may i obtain those lab equipment, woodies etc.:thumbup:
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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 245willow19]
    #13900098 - 02/03/11 02:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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can you make a Pictorial for this, i know how to Make , opium , DMT DXM and STB but LSD is a major thing i want to make. whenever i understand all the concepts i'll make a Pictorial for other Learners.
where may i obtain those lab equipment, woodies etc.:thumbup:
nice thread though man!:thumbup:




lol...whatre you talking about? I'm sure you don't make opium, dmt or dxm, you're extracting it. And what do u mean make STB? You use STB for extracting DMT right? But you shouldn't get carried away..yeah LSD isn't as hard as everyone makes it out to be, but it's still quite a lot more of a challenge than any extraction..and lab equipment you just get online at certain places, but some are watched, and you need lysergic acid..so youre either gonna have to grow your own ergot, or fake a business and order some from a major chem supplier, which is fucking hard to do and youd probably be safer moving from state to state while ordering. And what are woodies?


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Eminence]
    #13900479 - 02/03/11 04:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

you should read through it again, it answers some of your questions. Also the download has some pics, but a "true" pictorial would only go up til the point you actually start making it. I mean I guess you could just leave the aperture open for like a day and get some pics, or some kind of real night vision camera or something...maybe, but most of the process will be hurt by light, so photos aren't really that feasible. Also you'd be pretty preoccupied with everything else I think, and if you're making lsd...well you probably don't really want pictures as evidence lol.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13905836 - 02/04/11 03:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

4 days (just thought I'd kinda bump it each day before I deleted it)


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13918121 - 02/06/11 09:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

2 days


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13918373 - 02/06/11 10:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: MGMT]
    #13920845 - 02/07/11 01:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13922115 - 02/07/11 04:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

nooooooooooooooooo please don't delete it


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: L.S.Ste]
    #13926855 - 02/08/11 11:28 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

deleted??  y?

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Ogla]
    #13926874 - 02/08/11 11:33 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Congrats man! :awethumb:

Rock on with the book :smile:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: dwpineal]
    #13926886 - 02/08/11 11:37 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Still confused what the actual reason was for deleting this. Would have been kinda strange if RR deleted every one of his informative posts just because he was making his DVD. But yeah.. good luck with the book I guess :thumbup:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: psilosibling]
    #13926907 - 02/08/11 11:43 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Be sure to make it a short book.  I dont wanna read anything the size of a dictionary now :wink:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Ogla]
    #13926922 - 02/08/11 11:45 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

well it was a bit hard to follow on the site, so hopefully he'll get it all organized and formatted etc...either way, I figure no one here was jumping up and down to try the outlined method, nor do I think it was anything that cannot be found by hitting the (already published) literature :smile:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: psilosibling]
    #13926923 - 02/08/11 11:45 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Still confused what the actual reason was for deleting this. Would have been kinda strange if RR deleted every one of his informative posts just because he was making his DVD. But yeah.. good luck with the book I guess :thumbup:



true, but let me give you a little background info. Basically I researched this stuff for a few years, and at some point just kinda gave it all up. Over christmas break, however, I was home from college and had nothing to do, so one day I just decided I'd make a post on how to make lsd. The post quickly outgrew a normal post length, so I saved it in word and finished the whole thing the next day and posted it. Now I'm going to be doing a much more in depth version, double checking all my facts, doing all the mla citations and whatnot, getting it much more organized, drawing diagrams, etc. Hopefully if you read my book front to back (and perhaps with a little additional research) you should be able to go out and do it. Once my book is out I'll probly put up a new post, but really the word limit just prevents me from putting up as much info as I would like. I'll be sure to update it later though, and hopefully my book will be finished within a week or two.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: dwpineal]
    #13926959 - 02/08/11 11:53 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Be sure to make it a short book.  I dont wanna read anything the size of a dictionary now :wink:



hahaha we'll see. as far as books go it probably won't be too long, prbly not over 200 pages, but as far as lsd books go, well it should probably be the longest one thats solely about lsd

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well it was a bit hard to follow on the site, so hopefully he'll get it all organized and formatted etc...either way, I figure no one here was jumping up and down to try the outlined method, nor do I think it was anything that cannot be found by hitting the (already published) literature :smile:




yep, definitely part of my reasoning. Actually though there was a lot that you couldn't get in the published literature, I mean not to brag or anything, but I read all the lsd books I could find, up to 20 pages of google results per search criteria and all the variations I could think of, all the erowid stuff, forums , etc. A lot of it was not mentioned anywhere at all and I had to figure stuff out myself, kinda like how people who first starting growing weed had to learn from gardening books and shit, I had to fill in some of the missing pieces by watching college chemistry lectures and stuff like that (reading through organic chemistry books succkkkssss btw lol)


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13927006 - 02/08/11 12:07 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i look forward to reading it  Thanks  :thaaannks:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #13927044 - 02/08/11 12:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Now remember, when your cooking that shit up, to keep it in a box! you dont want it to blow up, and you go all comatose lilke Bob Dylan now..


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #13927207 - 02/08/11 12:45 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13927562 - 02/08/11 02:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Way cool, then if you've got some new knowledge, then that is certainly worthwhile. What parts of the process are we talking about (the new ones?)

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: dwpineal]
    #13928007 - 02/08/11 03:16 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Way cool, then if you've got some new knowledge, then that is certainly worthwhile. What parts of the process are we talking about (the new ones?)



well a lot of it is just in the details, I mean you can read all the synths you want, you can even be able to make lsd, but to understand it enough to switch things up and improvise, switching out different chemicals and stuff is where the difference is. I actually have my own specific method of doing things which is sort of just taking a little from different synths and then putting on a bit of my own spin to it. Basically I'm working on my own synth for it which takes a minimalist approach, then adding notes for further improvements, which chemicals can be substituted for what, etc. For example most synths you read will use a bunch of different solvents, but I will just type in diethyl ether for each step a solvent is necessary, then have notes which explain you may want to use, for example, a petroleum ether for extraction because of cost, etc. This way it should be easier to read and understand, and the sort of easiest method will serve as a "template" which can then be modified.


oh and also there isn't really anything I have ever been able to find on stuff like making and dipping blotter art, window panes, gel tabs, etc. I mean even the stuff on pressing X is a little skimpy. so stuff like that and obtaining precursors, ordering shit without legal risk, etc. For example I figured out how to use universal gift cards to buy things anonymously from people who illegally gamble online, how to not get caught shipping illegals from some kid who had police training manuals and post office rule books, and I learned different perforation techniques from reading stationary forums, etc etc


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13928186 - 02/08/11 03:39 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Not to be rude, but why has this been deleted for the reason "I might get a book deal"?

You said yourself you have never taken this synthesis all the way, which is a worry in itself. Your giving out info on something which you say you could do, but just haven't done yet. Not really good enough I don't think.

But also when looking back through your post history it's quite obvious your a fairly smart individual, but that you did get put in your place over at the chemistry forum a few times. especially in your ALD-52 threads.

My other concern is this, quoted straight from one of your ALD-52 threads
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Did I maybe go a little overboard? Duhr, but I know there's a lot of dumbasses out there that will try this shit without thinking, so I figured I'd give em a little info and why not to do it. I forget who it was, but I remember some acid chemist saying that he tried to write as detailed a description as he could for making acid but he got so many retarded ass questions he ultimately gave up and decided it was better not to say anything too in depth cuz you know some dumbass kid in the burbs is going to fuck it up and end up in the hospital. So if I'm crazy for trying to warn against this shit so your average stupid motherfucker doesn't kill himself, well sorry I guess I'm crazy.




Then you came here and posted a "Guide for dummies" to cooking LSD then laying your own blotter.
It seems to me that most of this information probably shouldnt be out there for everyone.
can you imagine the amount of RC's that are going to find their ways to blotter, should you release a book containing all the processes of the LSD world?

We don't need or want every dumbass knowing how to lay blotter, and we definitely don't need some half assed chemist trying to make LSD and probably giving up a fucked up batch out or something.
These things are secret for a reason. 

With that being said, what exactly will be in your book that's not available through numerous other sources?
we already have books with every kind of LSD experience you can imagine, & books containing many different synthesis methods which have actually been proven and performed by experienced chemists in a real lab.
It's all already covered basically you just want to word it so anyone can read it and perform it right?

IMO if you can't read the proper synthesis, you shouldn't be making LSD period. 

I dunno, I'm just sketchy about this.
a purely illegal cookbook (your reasons for making LSD, are not for any kind of legitimate research) is just not a very good idea for anyone, including you.
Especially when your putting stuff like finding precursors and other majorly illegal activity.
How long do you really think your methods are going to last once there published? The government will close the gaps to any method you have very quickly I bet.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Austrip]
    #13931169 - 02/09/11 12:05 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Fair enough, I understand your concerns. There is big time money involved, and these crimes are pretty huge for the most part, BUT we are on the shroomery, where pictures of grows that are easily worth as much as a smaller LSD run if not more, are posted constantly. The safety is a concern, which I warned about over and over (the quote you referenced was actually because I was criticized for warning against the dangers of using ketene too much). Oh and the government isn't socialist, they can't magically create new shit cuz they feel like it, and the legislation to ban things these methods uses has not made it through and won't (or at least shouldn't) because they have legitimate purposes. Really the mccarthyism tactics of the drug war are diminishing, more people do drugs now than ever and so the public perception of drugs, even by those who don't do them, is that they are less and less taboo. And of course spending on the drug war is dramatically cut more and more. The govt doesn't really give a shit if some stoner punk fucks try to order some shit online or something. I mean if your local police officers find out then maybe they'll try to overstep their boundaries, but for the most part the part of the govt with the financial backing to actually be spying on the shroomery more than just some dumbass cop trying to figure out simple signs of shroom growing, doesn't give a shit, they have way better things to be doing.

Like I said I understand your concerns, but for the most part "not to sound rude but" you just don't know what you're talking about for most of what you said. The other stuff makes sense, but I got it covered to a decent extent I believe-shit tons of precautions, only detailing safer methods, etc. Oh and as for getting the information out there-I believe the spread of information is a good thing, even if it can cause some problems. I mean yeah some dumbass could use it to put STP on blotter, but they already do that shit, if anything this should help there be more LSD and less RCs. Also I think the more common knowledge it is the more it will decentralize crime supported by drugs because people won't have to get it from sketchy sources. I mean people often think "oh shit thats homemade? thats sketchy" but 9 times out of 10 the home made shit I've had of anything was top notch quality while every time I'd gotten laced shit, bunk shit, or just plain shitty shit, its off the streets. A kid learns to make cocaine in his basement and he'll probly use lab equipment and at least department store chemicals, whereas a lot of street coke comes from places like south america where they sometimes use gasoline and cement chips. Also I think if you understand more about LSD, then you will be better able to recognize what it safe, good, clean lsd and what is an RC. See in my eyes bad shit happens, and suppressing information can stop some of that bad shit, but it will never stop it, but freely spread information and empower the underdogs, decrease the power gained from having "hidden knowledge" and make ultimately a better scenario.


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    #13952498 - 02/12/11 05:55 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

when you haven't actually made, tried and tested your own LSD syinasis formula you can hardly go about writing books on how to do it thats just DUMB.... get a grip man when your actually done it then come back and preach. nobodies gonna take you seriously till then!


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: L.S.Ste]
    #13952610 - 02/12/11 06:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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good luck can't wait i'll be buying that book!





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when you haven't actually made, tried and tested your own LSD syinasis formula you can hardly go about writing books on how to do it thats just DUMB.... get a grip man when your actually done it then come back and preach. nobodies gonna take you seriously till then!




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Re: How to make LSD [Re: L.S.Ste]
    #13953479 - 02/12/11 09:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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when you haven't actually made, tried and tested your own LSD syinasis formula you can hardly go about writing books on how to do it thats just DUMB.... get a grip man when your actually done it then come back and preach. nobodies gonna take you seriously till then!




youre a moron. heres why:

1) Whether or not he has actually made it, his steps and research are all based on factual chemistry and known formuls and procedures. His procedure combines known methods and simplifications within one expanded technique

2) He could have made LSD with this method before, but would have to be fairly stupid to state publicly that he has. (see previous post regarding lack of step-by-step pictures)

3) If i were to attempt to make LSD tommorow, based on my scattered knowledge id be following this procedure airly closely, at least as a jumping-off point. its straight-foward and covers a signifigant amount of detail

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: klondike_bar]
    #13954377 - 02/13/11 02:36 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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L.S.Ste said:
when you haven't actually made, tried and tested your own LSD syinasis formula you can hardly go about writing books on how to do it thats just DUMB.... get a grip man when your actually done it then come back and preach. nobodies gonna take you seriously till then!




youre a moron. heres why:

1) Whether or not he has actually made it, his steps and research are all based on factual chemistry and known formuls and procedures. His procedure combines known methods and simplifications within one expanded technique

2) He could have made LSD with this method before, but would have to be fairly stupid to state publicly that he has. (see previous post regarding lack of step-by-step pictures)

3) If i were to attempt to make LSD tommorow, based on my scattered knowledge id be following this procedure airly closely, at least as a jumping-off point. its straight-foward and covers a signifigant amount of detail




thanks for the understanding, and yes I don't mean I'm just going to sit down and type out a synth, but if you know how to read synths, all the theories and procedures, etc, then you can take certain procedures and change them for different chemicals, etc-like we discussed earlier you could take a peptide coupling method and use a complete synthesis of lysergic acid rather than an extraction. You could use a variety of methods of exact procedures to protect the molecule. You can also use different chemicals like chloroform or ether in place of benzene for example (but its important to know where you can use something like a petroleum ether for cost concerns, and where you shouldn't risk it and go with a pure ether or chloroform which will produce a purer result). The work is much like a translator's; you can write it in such a way to focus on yield, or cost, or safety, or a dozen other things. A lot of the work is also just doing the math and research to change out chemicals and procedures to make your own unique "version". I didn't make an entirely new way to do it, I just came up with a different way to explain it and a lot of ideas for cost effective yet entirely safe (even safer in some cases than without it) methods of purification and protection. Think of Kemp's wrinkle synthesis for example-there was a note that suggests he used hydrazine-so he didn't really come up with an entirely new method-but he tweaked it and made his own version.

One thing to consider though-do you think a professional chemist learned to make every chemical in school that he will ever need to make in his career? No, he learned the theories and the skills necessary to produce whatever his future projects will require. If you know how to bake muffins, then you can probably bake cupcakes.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13968930 - 02/15/11 05:13 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I really wish you'd use shorter paragraphs...  :weirdeyes:

Good work though!  :thumbup:
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If you know how to bake muffins, then you can probably bake cupcakes.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Mr E Guest]
    #13970599 - 02/15/11 09:30 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

haha yeah I know, my bad. I'm an aspiring novelist, kinda a book nerd, and I have a sort of victor hugo writing style-huge sprawling paragraphs lol. I try to shorten it down for forums, and obviously I'm not writing like I would in a novel, but...well old habits die hard


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13990358 - 02/19/11 02:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

got my netbook back (and all the older files with it) so if anyone still wants the old version or torrent or something, just pm me


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13997113 - 02/20/11 06:22 PM (13 years, 30 days ago)

I see a bunch of problems with this idea, some issues stick out more than others. The first thing that comes to mind, is the essence of grandiosity that comes along inherent with your desire to make an impact on 'the scene'. You tell us in several different ways of the plans you h(o)(e)ld, and how you have now decided against manufacturing it yourself, but have moved to forming a cumulative account of the files youve found online regarding the synthesis of LSD.  This is something that would simply be just another run of the mill regurgitation of information that pollutes the net and these forums, yet you speak of publishing, and this is what makes people give a shit. Its simply, ludicrous. I dont think its your place to publish all of this information, seeing as how in the eyes of that world, you are a nobody. It seems to me your a bit delusional, thinking that 'at the very least, there will be less RC's'. Thinking you will effect things on that level is :facepalm:. All youve done is research, and the fact that youve needed to do all of it(clearly youve done quite a bit) shows that in the first place, you dont know what your doing in the lab..  now you think your in a position to affect the national//international distribution of certain psychedelics?  You are probably having some mental health issues right now. Delusions of Granduer

Id just like you to check yourself before you wreck yourself. Also, i think some of us feel that this information doesnt need to be made into pamphlets and hawked for $19.99 to anyone. Some of us feel, and have stated that by publishing some of this info and making it more available (than it already is) is simply redundant, and may in fact bring more attention to these methods by law enforcement...

You know it could be something like this book that makes some of our ethnobtanials illegal, just imagine if the media got ahold of the pamphlet or whatever. imagine if some kid bought a copy, and made copys and was passing out at school, or just sharing and the faculty found out? That could be bad..

Anyway, wtf do you need a book about it for? Tihkal has all you need to know, on one fucking page! Lol, a whole book. No offense, but if you really made a book about it, calling it the Idiots, or dummies guide to LSD manufacture would be the most suitable name. Honestly, do you think that book is a good idea? I mean, really, its not your place to make the book. The fact that you think it needs to be book sized means you have no business in a lab yourself.

Honestly, everything anyone needs to know about a/the synth, who is chemically & medically proficiant enough to handle this synth can fit the instructions on the back of a business card written in there own style.

Simply put, some knowledge should just be there before someone where to actually try this synth. a LSD cookbook is just a bad idea for so many reasons, especially under THESE circumstances. Imagine all the problems it could create.

I guess in conclusion, the book is pointless, and just a danger to some ethno's.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #13997334 - 02/20/11 07:05 PM (13 years, 30 days ago)

yea i really doubt anyone will publish his work for him to profit off of


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: SurReality]
    #13998769 - 02/20/11 11:03 PM (13 years, 30 days ago)

fair enough, but just ask yourself what you would do in my position. I could really use some money and I already posted the longest version I could fit on here. I was a little worried that people would turn me into an uncle fester douchebag type so I have tried to be very honest and upfront with everything, saying over and over that I'm just an alchemist who did a lot of research (but I do in fact know my way around a lab). Also I didn't literally mean this would be some huge catalyst to change the world or anything, but was simply citing reasons why I ultimately don't think its a bad thing to put this info out there. I don't really think I'm hot shit, my life's a little pathetic really, but I am confident I could write a decent book on this-not everyone who writes a book thinks they are the next plato or something, its just a fuckn book dude. I'll probably make like 200bux and forget about it.

really I just don't get what your problem is-did you even read it? do YOU know your way around a lab, can YOU understand tihkal, or do you have deslusions of grandeur that I care at all? I just think it would be nice if we could be a bit more out in the open about lsd. If anything I think most of the other threads I've read about it are the ones with the delusions, going on and on about how their foaf told them something about lsd and let them post it only under complete secrecy and shit, like the pybop method one, I'd rather spread the love than make a shit ton of money, whats wrong with that?:shrug:


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #13999088 - 02/21/11 12:29 AM (13 years, 30 days ago)

it would be better you it wasn't actually about making "LSD"... like how roger rabbit on the board made "lets grow mushrooms" but actually demonstrated with edible mushrooms and still passed on more than adequate knowledge to grow illegally.
why not just write a book about "advanced/organic chemistry for dummies" and make absolutely no mention of LSD this would have a better chance getting published and would not create the problem Overdose is predicting


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: SurReality]
    #13999125 - 02/21/11 12:38 AM (13 years, 30 days ago)

OP i believe you are not really a fevered ego or trying to get greedy... but you need to realize this is a touchy subject, and nobody here will like you very much if you cuz LSD to become unobtainable to all. because you made a book showing any fool to cook acid in their basement, but actually taught big brother what our chemists need to create acid and then cut off the supply of precursors to everyone including professionals.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: SurReality]
    #13999629 - 02/21/11 04:42 AM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Austrip]
    #13999869 - 02/21/11 08:00 AM (13 years, 29 days ago)

Here's a simple LSD extraction without having to write a whole book about it.

MANUFACTURE OF LSD

Materials:

1. Ergotamine tartrate

2. Hydrazine hydrate

3. Hydrazide

4. Hydrochloric Acid

5. Sodium Nitrite

6. Sodium Bicarbonate

7. Diethylamine

8. Ether

9. Flasks

10. Filter paper

11. Heating mantle

12. 2 liter three-necked round bottom flask

Time: Approximately 36 hours.

Process:

STEP 1: In a 2 liter three-necked round bottom flask
add to 2 grams of ergotamine tartrate about 1/2 gram
of hydrazine hydrate. Exercise caution when adding
the hydrazine hydrate because it is very poisonous,
particularly to the eyes.

STEP 2: Place a condensing column on one neck of the
flask. Place a stirring device in the center neck and
place a separatory funnel in the thick neck. (Note:
hydrazide hydrate may be added through a separatory
funnel although it is not necessary.)

STEP 3: Place the flask on a heating mantle and simmer
the solution for 2-3 hours while stirring occasionally.

STEP 4: Remove condensing column from flask and continue
to cook for 10-15 minutes or until the original solution
is reduced by half.

STEP 5: After solution has cooled, pour the solution
through filter paper and collect the crystals that
formed. Wash the crystals in a small amount of
absolute alcohol.



STEP 6: Dissolve the crystals in about 30cc of diluted
hydrochloric acid. (Note: diluted hydrochloric acid is
mixed at a rate of 1 part acid to 10 or 15 parts water.)

STEP 7: To the hydrochloric acid solution add about
15cc of a solution of sodium nitrite diluted in water.
(Note: one part sodium nitrite to 10 or 15 parts
water.) Let this solution stand for about 30 minutes.

STEP 8: To this solution add about one teaspoonful of
sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) to make the solution
basic.

STEP 9: Place this solution in a separatory funnel and
add to it an equal quantity of ether. Shake this
solution gently for about 5 minutes.

STEP 10: Separate the ether solution from the
separatory funnel and keep the ether solution. The
remainder may be discarded.

STEP 11: Cool the ether solution to 0 degrees Celsius
and to the solution add a solution of about .5 gram
of diethylamine mixed with ether.

STEP 12: Maintain the solution at 0 degrees Celsius for
24 hours, stirring it occasionally (perhaps 4 hour
intervals.)

STEP 13: Remove the solution from the ice bath and
allow it to stand at room temperature for about 2
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Re: How to make LSD [Re: L.S.Ste]
    #14000065 - 02/21/11 09:09 AM (13 years, 29 days ago)

yeah, trust me I've thought about all of that stuff over and over and over, and no its not simply for 200 that would be a waste of time, and sadly i dont think theres really a way to disguise such a specific procedure, although I was thinking of calling it Meet My Friend Mrs. Ellis D. lol, and yeah  those concerns are partly why I took it off of here. I mean you have uncle fester and otto snow and all them which are very successful books, but I don't think they can put much tighter restrictions on LSD than they already have, and they already know all the kind of shit they would need to ID a lab if it was a bust-BUT when you only need a very small amount of everything required to push out a considerable amount of product, its very hard to catch because people actually use that shit. If you try to become the next owsley they'll probly figure it out if you don't have some crazy hookup system like a drug lord, but that goes for anything-shrooms, weed, dmt, etc, etc, etc


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14002395 - 02/21/11 04:09 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

I think everyone is worrying too much. There has been arguments like this on the shroomery for a long time. Onetoke, I'm still waiting to read ur book :wink:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Ogla]
    #14002418 - 02/21/11 04:13 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

I heard you just scrape the mold off of some orange peels, and voila-pure LSD-25. Isn't that how it works?


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    #14002474 - 02/21/11 04:21 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Eminence]
    #14002484 - 02/21/11 04:22 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

BANANA PEEL YOU MORONS!!!!:crankey:


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    #14002497 - 02/21/11 04:25 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Eminence]
    #14002513 - 02/21/11 04:27 PM (13 years, 29 days ago)

sHIT - YOU MEAN i'M \...real hardcore???

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Mr E Guest]
    #14023506 - 02/25/11 12:32 AM (13 years, 26 days ago)

well so far all the publishers I've talked to were interested but too scared, which is bullshit cuz they all carry tons of books on activism and carry older synthesis ones, but I guess a lot of them stopped doing manufacturing type books. if only loompanics was around :frown:
if it doesn't work out I'll probly just make a cheap ebook, like two bucks or something
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    #14023598 - 02/25/11 12:58 AM (13 years, 26 days ago)

Dude, why do you insist on charging for it? At first it seemed like you were just trying to make some altruistic contribution to the community, then next thing I know you've deleted the file and are talkin about makin money off it. Which, isnt that perjury anyway? Id really make sure you werent violating any copyright laws, thatd be ashame :rolleyes:...

Honestly bro, probably anybody who reads your book is not gonna make acid. I mean, wherever they hear about the book from, they will most likely be able to get the same instructions on that site. I mean, you arent publishing any new information, just regurgitated old information that you have no idea of the validity of.

On top of that, your just gonna bring more heat onto some shit thats already hot enough. For this you can be doing the community a great, great disservice. Im serious about this, and I dont mean any offense, I just know EXACTLY the state of mind you are in right now. And I dont think its too stable... Basically, you already wrote it, then deleted it out of a combination of paranoia, and material want. You dont seem to be qualified in the slightest to right this book. Your just masturbating your ego thinking you some hot shot, whos got the golden ticket, but guess what, even though it took you a long time to learn this, ask yourself if that wasnt an important part of the process, IT IS TO ALcHEMISTS dood.. I mean, your taking information that was entrusted to the community, and dealin with some TRULY sacred stuff, and PUTTING IT ON BLAST, JUST TO MAKE A BUCK OR TWO. Honestly, man if you want to make a contribution to the community, just do something nice for people in your life, or random people that could use a little kindness, you dont have to strive for shit about drugs thinking that will do the world good :smile: Im sure you can think of something. But dont put this shit on blast. I mean,

YOU SAY YOUR AN ALCHEMIST, BUT DONT YOU EVEN KNOW ANY OF THE ALCHEMIST CODE!? SERIOUS, YOUR DELUSIONAL(no offense, it can be fun sometime; ), You can really cause some harm to the shit you hope to help, and if that happens, youll get hunted down for sure.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14023801 - 02/25/11 02:09 AM (13 years, 26 days ago)

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well so far all the publishers I've talked to were interested but too scared, which is bullshit cuz they all carry tons of books on activism and carry older synthesis ones, but I guess a lot of them stopped doing manufacturing type books. if only loompanics was around :frown:
if it doesn't work out I'll probly just make a cheap ebook, like two bucks or something
oh and since its taking longer than expected I'm going to put a short guide back up, but I think I might have lost the old file...




maybe if you just drop some fucking acid, you would realize that you were just shown a sign to slow down - pump your brakes on this idea for a second man.


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: SurReality] * 1
    #14023849 - 02/25/11 02:29 AM (13 years, 26 days ago)

I'll consider it. The only reason I'm trying to make money off of it is that I'm floating on student loans right now but they are going to run out soon and I can't find a fuckin job in this shitty economy. I'm about to get evicted so I just thought this would be an option. I'm not really regurgitating the same shit...have you ever read a scholarly book? I mean a lot of those books I learned SOME of this from have citations, cuz thats what you do when you find information from another source. A lot of it though I seriously just came up with on my own. I really don't understand why writing a book is such a bad thing, do you hate anyone else who wrote a book about lsd? I think you'd be surprised how many people I've talked to who were professional or student chemists who had read all those books but didn't know quite how to do it until I gave em a run through. Oh and btw I do know the alchemist code, and I think about all that sort of thing when I trip/meditate- a lot of the procedures I've done I found to be pretty enlightening. I think you have this image of me just fapping to how "cool" everyone will think I am and how I can exploit them for money. Well I understand that, but honestly I'm more torn between saving my ass financially and giving out the info for free and helping, and really I think a compromise would be nice right? I put up a free version, and theres a more in depth ebook that I might make a small amount of money off of before people just torrent it anyways.


BUT I do hear what you say, and I will certainly think about it some more


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14023887 - 02/25/11 03:06 AM (13 years, 26 days ago)

1toke... i believe you have greater potential than this. Find your genius potential (every person has it, you just need to figure it out) and help to change the world. I believe acid is not like DMT, if you deserve acid you don't have to worry about making or finding it. It will find you, if it will help you to find your own way in life.

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: SurReality]
    #14023971 - 02/25/11 04:19 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Yeah bro, I agree with dude above me, sorry to be so harsh. Its just like what he said up there.. It seems like we all three think sort of alike, well atleast I agree, well sometimes I believe I see the genius potential in pretty much everyone, somedays it seems like everyone is on a higher level, like collectively or something, IDK. We can achieve so much as individuals, its just we becomde complacent with age, even when your a young adult, you dont have the viigor or ambitions and drive that was once almost magical at the younger ages... Thinking about it now, i wouldnt want to see you put that book out then feel satisfied... You know, you probabaly spent a long time reading about it, and so now just imagine all the other things out there that you could study just as intensely, if your goal was to help others, and master the subject in a handful of years, then be able to conduct good for years and years to come with nothing to worry about. Ya know? Use your noggin for somethin else, theres a whole new green industry bloomin in the wrld right now. Jump on that wagon with me! I think this green movement is gonna open a lot of doors fora lot of new opportunities, Im sure you can find something to study hardkore and master, with whatever you want to do.

Alright, I just ate a little mushroom about a half hour ago, did a lil H, got a little rsh from the mush, and it actually gave me a cool dreamy nod for about 15 -- 20 minutes... Im about too go to bed now... Sorry for my sorta incoherent thoughts, theyre just unfiltered from that state of mind :smile:, the mushrooms say hi, lol... :cactuar: Cya


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #14024119 - 02/25/11 06:20 AM (13 years, 25 days ago)

haha nice, I can tell you were trippin, but it wasn't incoherent at all. Actually one of the reasons I wanted to make the book was because I didn't want that to happen-I figured if I became some kind of acid chemist then I would probably just get lazy and forget my dreams. Right now I'm just trying to make it through college. The dream is that I'll get a cultural anthropology degree, go off in the peace corps for a while and come back and get my doctorate, because to me studying other cultures is like the ultimate fantasy job, or working in a museum which I guess happens to a lot of anthropologists. I guess my ultimate dream is just to basically be part of bitch slapping america into actually treating other countries and cultures as equal lol. To me I had a sort of rumspringa if you will of deep entheogen exploration, but now I feel more like easing off it more-just relax and do some shrooms here some acid there, but just kind of let it come and not focus on it so much. "once you get the call, you hang up the phone". I think the drugs I really prefer are weed, shrooms, and peyote, and wouldn't you know it those are the ones tolerated in amsterdam! So maybe I'll go there, but I mean who knows? I think you always have to be dreaming, stop dreaming and you stop growing, stop growing and you're not really living.

Oh and yeah I'm definitely going to try to get on the green bandwagon. Right now I'm trying to finish my gen eds at a cheaper state school before moving to colorado or california, and I'm moving with a pretty rich friend who wants to start a dispensary and has the funds but not the growing skills, so he wants to split the business :grin:

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14088190 - 03/08/11 06:29 PM (13 years, 14 days ago)

so I basically finished the new version, I beefed it up some more, and I don't think its really the "LSD for Dummies" this was. I just am just organizing, formatting, and proof reading right now, but if anyone wants to check it out before I post it and critique it just let me know.


( I am still going to write a book, but I'm going to do some more research-for example I'm looking into some possible new novel synthesis routes, but I'll just leave it up to actual publishers to decide, and if I can't get it legitimately published then I'll just give it out for free, but that whole process can take years)


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: SurReality]
    #14088349 - 03/08/11 06:56 PM (13 years, 14 days ago)

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1toke... i believe you have greater potential than this. Find your genius potential (every person has it, you just need to figure it out) and help to change the world. I believe acid is not like DMT, if you deserve acid you don't have to worry about making or finding it. It will find you, if it will help you to find your own way in life.

Tihkal is the only publication on this subject that needs to be out, sir. try a path less traveled.





couldn't agree more. looking for acid in vein never works out for me. it always comes to me in the most amazing ways when im patiently considering psychedelics

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline] * 1
    #14088562 - 03/08/11 07:30 PM (13 years, 14 days ago)

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I think you always have to be dreaming, stop dreaming and you stop growing, stop growing and you're not really living.



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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14091896 - 03/09/11 11:02 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

Well, if you believe in the book and no one will publish it for you - you can use a vanity printing company or a print on demand type thing...I've always loved Wayne Dyer's explanation of selling his first book. He wrote it, believed in it and had it self-published. He had like 10-20,000 copies printed, threw them in the trunk of his car and created his own self-distribution. Now he's written and published like 30-50 books, probably all best sellers, or mostly...just a thought.

Also I've been doing this with art, so I can confirm it is life-enriching for me and seems to be for others as well...

Just some thoughts...

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: dwpineal]
    #14091974 - 03/09/11 11:19 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

yeah I've thought about it. I think I'm just going to focus on working hard on the book for the time being, then I'll try some publishers, maybe talk to an agent for advice though that can be a rip off, and then if nothing else self publish it. Actually though a few publishers have shown interest and encouraged me to keep working on it and then we'll talk when its done, but its almost always difficult to get books published, can easily take a year or more.

thanks for the advice though, and I love your art btw, its pretty sick dude, I'll probably get some eventually


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    #14092504 - 03/09/11 01:15 PM (13 years, 13 days ago)

I'll trade for a signed copy of the book :smile:

I like your plan of action - have to have a quality product that you're proud of before you go to market - once it is out there, it is representing you and all your efforts...

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Re: How to make LSD [Re: dwpineal]
    #14093105 - 03/09/11 03:19 PM (13 years, 13 days ago)

I'm interested in your book :smile:


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[...]at a minuimum proofread and spell check it before it is released[...]



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    #14096558 - 03/10/11 07:19 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

I agree with you. Badly written drug synth books are a nightmare to read. Typo's and bad paragraphing are far too distracting. I'm a good proofreader, by the way... Feel like such a nerd for finding your typo amusing! :shrug: Context-based humour?


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: Mr E Guest]
    #14096814 - 03/10/11 09:17 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

haha I hear you. No worries though, I've already spent quite a bit of time spellchecking. It could be a little off here and there maybe (mostly in the historical and neurochemical action sections where I don't have as much knowledge), but I think the spelling should be fine.

And just to be clear the book won't be done for several months, but a shorter version (about 9,000 words) should be out later today


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Re: How to make LSD [Re: 1tokeovrtheline]
    #14097255 - 03/10/11 11:25 AM (13 years, 12 days ago)

k, its up, let me know what you think, and enjoi!
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ACID; LYSERGIDE; D-LYSERGIC ACID DIETHYLAMIDE; METH-LAD; D-LYSERGAMIDE, N,N-DIETHYL; N,N-DIETHYL-D-LYSERGAMIDE; 9,10-DIDEHYDRO-N,N-DIETHYL-6-METHYLERGOLINE-8b-CARBOXAMIDE

SYNTHESIS : A solution of 6.7 g KOH in 100 mL H2O, under an inert atmosphere and magnetically stirred, was brought to 75 °C, and 10 g ergotamine tartrate (ET) added. The reaction mixture turned yellow as the ergotamine went into solution over the course of 1 h. The stirring was continued for an additional 3 h. The reaction mixture was cooled to about 10 °C with an external ice bath, and acidified to a pH of about 3.0 by the dropwise addition of 2.5 N H2SO4. White solids started to appear early in the neutralization; approximately 60 mL of sulfuric acid was required. The reaction mixture was cooled overnight, the solids removed by filtration, and the filter cake washed with 10 mL Et2O. The dry solids were transferred to a beaker, suspended in 50 mL 15 % ammonia in anhydrous ethanol, stirred for 1 h, and separated by decantation. This extraction was repeated, and the original decantation and the second extract combined and filtered to remove a few hundred milligrams of unwanted solids. The clear filtrate was stripped of solvent under vacuum, the residual solids dissolved in 50 mL of 1% aqueous ammonia, and this solution was acidified as before with 2.5 N H2SO4. The precipitated solids were removed by filtration and washed with Et2O until free of color. After drying under vacuum to a constant weight, there was obtained 3.5 g of d-lysergic acid hydrate, which should be stored in a dark, sealed container.

A suspension of 3.15 g d-lysergic acid hydrate and 7.1 g of diethylamine in 150 mL CHCl3 was brought to reflux with stirring. With the external heating removed, there was added 3.4 g POCl3 over the course of 2 min, at a rate sufficient to maintain refluxing conditions. The mixture was held at reflux for an additional 5 min, at which point everything had gone into solution. After returning to room temperature, the solution was added to 200 mL of 1 N NH4OH. The phases were separated, the organic phase dried over anhydrous MgSO4, filtered, and the solvent removed under vacuum. The residue was chromatographed over alumina with elution employing a 3:1 C6H6/CHCl3 mixture, and the collected fraction stripped of solvent under hard vacuum to a constant weight. This free-base solid can be recrystallized from benzene to give white crystals with a melting point of 87-92 °C. IR (in cm-1): 750, 776, 850, 937 and 996, with the carbonyl at 1631. The mass spectrum of the free base has a strong parent peak at mass 323, with sizable fragments at masses of 181, 196, 207 and 221.

This base was dissolved in warm, dry MeOH, using 4 mL per g of product. There was then added dry d-tartaric acid (0.232 g per g of LSD base), and the clear warm solution treated with Et2O dropwise until the cloudiness did not dispel on continued stirring. This opaqueness set to a fine crystalline suspension (this is achieved more quickly with seeding) and the solution allowed to crystallize overnight in the refrigerator. Ambient light should be severely restricted during these procedures. The product was removed by filtration, washed sparingly with cold methanol, with a cold 1:1 MeOH/Et2O mixture, and then dried to constant weight. The white crystalline product was lysergic acid diethylamide tartrate with two molecules of methanol of crystallization, with a mp of about 200 °C with decomposition, and weighed 3.11 g (66%). Repeated recrystallizations from methanol produced a product that became progressively less soluble, and eventually virtually insoluble, as the purity increased. A totally pure salt, when dry and when shaken in the dark, will emit small flashes of white light.
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