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Fungi Perfecti my arse.
    #1374200 - 03/14/03 12:25 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I have been informed that some of the isolates being sold by fungi perfecti for the absolutely ridiculous price of $125 US are actually untested and quite poor.
Anyone know from experience?


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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1374381 - 03/14/03 03:07 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

NO, but they do seem sketchy to me, selling those myco medicinals, which is basically just mycelium in a pill.


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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1374388 - 03/14/03 03:14 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Who owns that site?


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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: Anonymous]
    #1374393 - 03/14/03 03:16 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: Bruiser]
    #1374401 - 03/14/03 03:20 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

That's what I thought..................that means Stamet's is just a regular ol hustler?


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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: Anonymous]
    #1374420 - 03/14/03 03:34 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Couldn't say for sure. I don't have the $125 to shell out on a culture. I'd find it hard to believe though. He prides himself and his company on his cultures/spawn and their viability.
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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: Anonymous]
    #1374430 - 03/14/03 03:39 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Their prices are high because they offer support, free replacement & low P value. And because of Stamets fame. :tongue: But I don't beleive that they sell bad & untested strains.
Some of them are in circulation anyway and can be easily cloned from their cheap kits. 


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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: zeronio]
    #1374454 - 03/14/03 03:50 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, their kits are just big cultures, that are cheaper....hmmm


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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: Anonymous]
    #1374473 - 03/14/03 04:04 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Link to their sale agreement.
Fungi Perfecti
Someone else posted a response from FP when asked why they charge so much and the response was along the lines of what Zeronio said. Everything has documentation about the vitality and P scale value of the culture. FP's cultures are geared more towards the commercial side of the business, not really the home cultivator.
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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: Bruiser]
    #1374871 - 03/14/03 06:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Would cloning from fruit body and reselling violate their limitations policy?


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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: JssMthrFcknChrst]
    #1374901 - 03/14/03 06:43 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know. I suppose if you marketed it as a clone from one of the fruits from their culture without their permission, they might have something to say.
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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: JssMthrFcknChrst]
    #1374999 - 03/14/03 07:19 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Would cloning from fruit body and reselling violate their limitations policy?




YES!!!

BTW the cultures that they sell are really ment for commerial growers NOT home cultivators.


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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: MicronMagick]
    #1375019 - 03/14/03 07:26 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

BTW the cultures that they sell are really ment for commerial growers NOT home cultivators. 




That's what i was saying too. :smile: I'm sure the commercial growers can afford FP's prices and are more than happy to pay them for a guaranteed viable culture.
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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1375069 - 03/14/03 07:38 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

they are not poor, that is my experience =)


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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: Raadt]
    #1375612 - 03/14/03 10:56 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

FP sell reasonable products. Their cultures are meant for commercial spawn production. If you want a culture that you can do anything you like with, those are considerably more (I believe they were charging ~US$2000 last time I checked).

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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: psyconaut]
    #1375813 - 03/14/03 12:09 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

aye, 1 year free replacement if you lose it, and you own it and can legally do whatever the fuck you want with it. Sell it, sell spawn, whatever.


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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1375826 - 03/14/03 12:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

In theory one should be able to geminate spores off a fruiting body and then sell any strains that may arise.


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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: gordonoalberto23]
    #1375855 - 03/14/03 12:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

but that would place you in no different a place than any other spores. Spores have their genetics, and you'll have to isolate a strain from them anyhow. So you might as well get a print from any old place, or clone something.


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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1376128 - 03/14/03 01:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

$125 is not all that much, go to any strain library, such as the one at Penn State and you will see that they are comparable in cost, and in the case of FP, you are likely to get something that is atleast tested as to its ability to fruit. The cheapest I have seen strains offered is from Mushroom People at $50. The cheap culture syringes that you can get online are like nicked from FP or some other companies fruit-it-yourself kit. Most site specifically say that it is not okay if you isolate from their kits or sell spawn derived from an isolate that you purchased from them. I love nicking strains, and because they are from kits they are likely to be easy to fruit because they are sold to people that often know little about fungi.


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Re: Fungi Perfecti my arse. [Re: r05c03]
    #1376137 - 03/14/03 01:59 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

well, there is only an agreement to purchase - if someone were to send you a wedge of mycellium - they would be violating the purchase agreement - not you. There's no patents or copywrites for strains, are there? I mean a purchase agreement doesn't go very far, and there are many ways around it. Not to mention is there ANY way for anyone to tell if you have "their" strain or not?


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