|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
Supermario420
1 up
Registered: 04/11/09
Posts: 131
|
Casing cubes with coir/verm/wood chips?
#13728189 - 01/04/11 07:37 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
I was wondering what you all thought about casing using a let's say 40/40/20 coir/verm/fir wood chips casing layer? Do you think the wood chips would provide any benefit?
|
BlackPeace
Self proclaimed CEO
Registered: 11/18/07
Posts: 1,069
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 10 months, 20 days
|
Re: Casing cubes with coir/verm/wood chips? [Re: Supermario420]
#13728208 - 01/04/11 07:49 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
In my opinion you should not use any nutritive element in your casing layer. They tend to contaminate more than plain 50/50+ casing mixture.
|
tarfoh
Friend
Registered: 11/27/10
Posts: 126
Last seen: 5 years, 1 month
|
Re: Casing cubes with coir/verm/wood chips? [Re: Supermario420]
#13728211 - 01/04/11 07:50 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
What strain are you trying to grow? Certain strains need wood (sawdust, wood chips, news paper, etc) in order to grow, while others need grains (brown rice flour, rye, wheat, popcorn, etc). Determining the proper substrates and casings all depends on the strain you are trying to grow as well as the tek you are using.
Edited by tarfoh (01/04/11 07:51 AM)
|
Naz
Fungal Infection
Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 917
Last seen: 9 years, 4 months
|
Re: Casing cubes with coir/verm/wood chips? [Re: tarfoh]
#13728214 - 01/04/11 07:53 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
good luck OP
Edited by Naz (01/04/11 07:53 AM)
|
BlackPeace
Self proclaimed CEO
Registered: 11/18/07
Posts: 1,069
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 10 months, 20 days
|
Re: Casing cubes with coir/verm/wood chips? [Re: tarfoh]
#13728246 - 01/04/11 08:03 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
tarfoh said: What strain are you trying to grow? Certain strains need wood (sawdust, wood chips, news paper, etc) in order to grow, while others need grains (brown rice flour, rye, wheat, popcorn, etc). Determining the proper substrates and casings all depends on the strain you are trying to grow as well as the tek you are using.
This is incorrect, there is little difference between cubensis strains, they all grow in the same substrate and parameters.
Different active species are wood lovers but not psilocybes cubensis. They might/will colonize a wood chip but they won't grow out of it. (as far as I know)
|
RogerRabbit
Bans for Pleasure
Registered: 03/26/03
Posts: 42,214
Loc: Seattle
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
|
Re: Casing cubes with coir/verm/wood chips? [Re: Supermario420]
#13728252 - 01/04/11 08:05 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Supermario420 said: I was wondering what you all thought about casing using a let's say 40/40/20 coir/verm/fir wood chips casing layer? Do you think the wood chips would provide any benefit?
You didn't say what species, so nobody can answer. RR
-------------------- Download Let's Grow Mushrooms semper in excretia sumus solim profundum variat "I've never had a failed experiment. I've only discovered 10,000 methods which do not work." Thomas Edison
|
BlackPeace
Self proclaimed CEO
Registered: 11/18/07
Posts: 1,069
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 10 months, 20 days
|
Re: Casing cubes with coir/verm/wood chips? [Re: BlackPeace]
#13728277 - 01/04/11 08:17 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
In the title, he mention Cubes.
|
higgledy-piggledy
Registered: 08/24/10
Posts: 966
|
Re: Casing cubes with coir/verm/wood chips? [Re: BlackPeace]
#13728286 - 01/04/11 08:21 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
to all!
Quote:
tarfoh said: Certain strains need wood (sawdust, wood chips, news paper, etc) in order to grow, while others need grains (brown rice flour, rye, wheat, popcorn, etc).
you can also create woodlovers spawn on grain. but nonetheless they will need a woody substrate to fruit, thats right.
Quote:
Supermario420 said: I was wondering what you all thought about casing using a let's say 40/40/20 coir/verm/fir wood chips casing layer? Do you think the wood chips would provide any benefit?
no benefit at all.
Quote:
BlackPeace said: In my opinion you should not use any nutritive element in your casing layer. They tend to contaminate more than plain 50/50 casing mixture.
some people use coir in there casing layers and are happy with it. but in general no nutrients.
i think if properly pasteurized you wont have contamination problems with a coir/verm mix.
|
BlackPeace
Self proclaimed CEO
Registered: 11/18/07
Posts: 1,069
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 10 months, 20 days
|
Re: Casing cubes with coir/verm/wood chips? [Re: BlackPeace]
#13728296 - 01/04/11 08:24 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Certain strains need wood (sawdust, wood chips, news paper, etc) in order to grow, while others need grains (brown rice flour, rye, wheat, popcorn, etc).
I was refering to the Cubensis "strain".
|
RogerRabbit
Bans for Pleasure
Registered: 03/26/03
Posts: 42,214
Loc: Seattle
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
|
Re: Casing cubes with coir/verm/wood chips? [Re: BlackPeace]
#13728375 - 01/04/11 08:53 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
BlackPeace said: In the title, he mention Cubes.
Oops, didn't notice that.
Keep wood well away from cubensis. They won't use it, but it's the favorite food for trichoderma. If you have coir and verm, simply pasteurize it and mix your spawn in. Don't case. RR
-------------------- Download Let's Grow Mushrooms semper in excretia sumus solim profundum variat "I've never had a failed experiment. I've only discovered 10,000 methods which do not work." Thomas Edison
|
Naz
Fungal Infection
Registered: 12/14/09
Posts: 917
Last seen: 9 years, 4 months
|
Re: Casing cubes with coir/verm/wood chips? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#13729977 - 01/04/11 03:07 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
|
|
the thing is OP...casing soil is supposed to be non nutritious....i would suggest getting some jiffy seed starter mix from ANY CONVENIENCE STORE LIKE WALMART!! hell type casing in the SE and you will quickly read that it should not have nutrient...
i say jiffy mix because it is premade 50/50+ all you gotta do is pasturize and go! I hope that you have at least read a lil bit before you do it... when you read you find stuff out like... cubes dont require a caseing layer, wax paper works great as a psudo caseing and that jiffy mix is pre made 50/50+...im just sayen
Edited by Naz (01/04/11 03:10 PM)
|
|