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OfflineRedSerpentofSun
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Case hanging free, drying out problem?
    #1371898 - 03/13/03 08:49 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I?m going to put the colonized dung in a form of chicken-net (the one that you make a fence for the chickens of), and hang it in an aquarium so that it hangs free. That way it will sprout pins all over and under and on the sides. I will have lamps over an under the aquarium.

The form will be about 4 inches thick, 6 wide and 20? inch long:
4 by 6 by 20,5 inch, holding about 7 quarts of substrate.

BUT, what I now wonder is, will the substrate dry out quickly if it hangs totally free?

Would it be a good idea to put a rope in the middle of the substrate, and a rope frome that down to the bottom of the aquarium where I fill up with ?-1 inch of water?

Thanx in advance!


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Re: Case hanging free, drying out problem? [Re: RedSerpentofSun]
    #1372015 - 03/13/03 09:30 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

keep the humidity up, and it shouldn't be a problem .


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Re: Case hanging free, drying out problem? [Re: deanofmean]
    #1377295 - 03/15/03 03:35 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Ok, thanx deanofmean.

So, about this rope-in-the-substrate question:

If I put a thin rope in the middle of the substrate, and lead it down to water so that it sucks up water and keeps the middle of the substrate constantly damp, will that rope be infested by other organisms - contaminated?

Is this a good insurance of keeping the substrate at good vigour if one cannot make sure that the air humidity stays at high levels?



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Re: Case hanging free, drying out problem? [Re: RedSerpentofSun]
    #1377311 - 03/15/03 03:45 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

bad idea with wicking the water up with the rope. but the substrate block is a good idea. perlite in the bottom with h2o2 + h2o should be enough humidity.


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Re: Case hanging free, drying out problem? [Re: RedSerpentofSun]
    #1377352 - 03/15/03 04:29 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Thanx Eightball! I?ll do that.

Before I put my colonized dung in the chicken net-form, what should I lay in it?

I mean... should I put any kind of layer in the form before I place the fully colonized dung in the form and start fruiting it?

I can?t put vermiculite and such in it as it would fall through the net, do I need to put something in at all?

I?ve read about caseing layers but I really don?t understand what purpose they serve and if my particular setup needs that.

Thanx in advance



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Re: Case hanging free, drying out problem? [Re: RedSerpentofSun]
    #1377382 - 03/15/03 05:05 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

a casing layer would help it a bit but it would be tricky to get it in there. it would basically provide the perfect humidity for the mycelium under it and give it a place to anchor pins.if you were to apply a coir/verm casing layer inside the chicken wire after the dung has colonized while its still in the dark and incubating. the mycelium will grow into the casing layer and keep it from just falling off. the coir being a fiberous matierial will also help it stay on.


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Re: Case hanging free, drying out problem? [Re: Eightball]
    #1377679 - 03/15/03 08:32 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Crazy shit man, I thought about doing this very same thing last week. I too, was wondering, if a casing suspended in mid air with light on both sides would fruit more profusely - and if the shrooms on the bottom would be bigger due to less gravitational push. I just haven't got around to doing it, but I look forward to seeing how this works! Good luck


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Re: Case hanging free, drying out problem? [Re: RedSerpentofSun]
    #1377707 - 03/15/03 08:40 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Try that rope thing....

A long while back this was proposed but to my knowledge nobody tried it though it wasn't proposed in the way your proposing it.

This was in connection to using a mesh in between the substrate and the casing and when the casing had run it's coarse the net was picked up thus lifting off the casing. It was proposed that if the netting was made out of a material that would wick then you would be able to keep your casing moist.......


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