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tha_doctor
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens dosing (no scale) [Re: Belac]
#13712716 - 12/31/10 06:45 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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Belac said: A level one trip turned into a level 4 trip very quickly and the only thing I could do is lay down on my bed in shear terror for what seemed like hours. At one point I forgot what it was like to have a normal mental state and that scared me so much. But after a few hours of that and some vomiting I finally got back to a somewhat sober mentality.
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tha_doctor said: Good luck traveling the vast oceans of the mind brother. Don't let anything scare you. It's all in your mind. Don't fear the psychedelic state, use it to your advantage....
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tha_doctor said: Belac, i highly recomend you read The Psychedelic Experience by Tim Leary and others. It's very small yet explains everything you need to know about tripping. It's based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead - don't let the name put you off! It's good stuff.
Anything by Terence McKenna is also very insightful. He has many great Youtube videos, but out of all his works, his book Food of the Gods is by far my favourite.
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Belac said: I learned to appreciate what I have in life and I value my sanity so much more.
That's geat man You always gotta get something out of your trip. Otherwise it's like spending the day at Disney World and not going on any rides
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Patlal
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens dosing (no scale) [Re: tha_doctor]
#13712753 - 12/31/10 07:01 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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yeeeeeeaaaah..... thats why scales exist...
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Belac
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens dosing (no scale) [Re: Patlal]
#13712773 - 12/31/10 07:06 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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Maybe ill buy a scale if im getting a lot of them, although the seasons almost over.
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tha_doctor
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens dosing (no scale) [Re: Patlal]
#13712783 - 12/31/10 07:11 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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Patlal said: yeeeeeeaaaah..... thats why scales exist...
  
Terence McKenna: "weight the dose. You must weight the dose"
Check out the video in the link Belac. You'd really benefit. Be sure to watch all 4 or 5 parts.
Scales can be bought dirt cheap from eBay. I bought a set for about $16 all up and they measure to 3 decimal places...
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tha_doctor
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens dosing (no scale) [Re: Belac]
#13712786 - 12/31/10 07:13 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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Belac said: Maybe ill buy a scale if im getting a lot of them, although the seasons almost over.
As long as you buy them before your next trip we won't come to your house and forcably stop you from eating the mushrooms.
I'm only kidding, relax!
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens dosing (no scale) [Re: Belac]
#13712823 - 12/31/10 07:26 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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The cyans I find east coast Australia go about 3 to 5 to the gram (dried). That is for complete stem and cap specimens depending of course on size. If they are reasonably mature then 4 to the gram would be a good guide.
I agree with another poster here that the graph does not correlate to my experience with cyans compared to cubes. 1 gram cyan seems to have the same effect as 2 grams cubes.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens dosing (no scale) [Re: tha_doctor]
#13712831 - 12/31/10 07:30 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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tha_doctor said:
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Well there ya go. You were right 
Doesn't psilocybin get converted to psilocin when eaten though? So why aren't the levels the same?
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tha_doctor
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens dosing (no scale) [Re: farmer88]
#13712834 - 12/31/10 07:30 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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Where abouts along the coast to you go huntnig man? Also, what time of the year?
Only psilocybin mushies i've found have been subs. I'm really keen on findnig some cyans now
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tha_doctor
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Well there ya go. You were right 
Doesn't psilocybin get converted to psilocin when eaten though? So why aren't the levels the same?
Psilocybin sure does get converted into psilocin.
Your question sounds like one that only a scientist would be able to answer. However, i wouldn't be surprised if someone on Shroomery knew the answer
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens dosing (no scale) [Re: tha_doctor]
#13712855 - 12/31/10 07:34 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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farmer88 said: The cyans I find east coast Australia go about 3 to 5 to the gram (dried). That is for complete stem and cap specimens depending of course on size. If they are reasonably mature then 4 to the gram would be a good guide.
I agree with another poster here that the graph does not correlate to my experience with cyans compared to cubes. 1 gram cyan seems to have the same effect as 2 grams cubes.

That graph is for Psilocybe cyanescens and not Panaeolus cyanescens
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tha_doctor said: Where abouts along the coast to you go huntnig man? Also, what time of the year?
Only psilocybin mushies i've found have been subs. I'm really keen on findnig some cyans now 
You wont find Panaeolus cyanescens in Victoria, you need to go further North to find the tropical dung-lovers.
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens dosing (no scale) [Re: karode13]
#13712870 - 12/31/10 07:39 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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I specified some as the dosage and OP ate too much. stick with only some next time and you will be fine.
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tha_doctor
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens dosing (no scale) [Re: karode13]
#13712892 - 12/31/10 07:45 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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karode13 said:
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farmer88 said: The cyans I find east coast Australia go about 3 to 5 to the gram (dried). That is for complete stem and cap specimens depending of course on size. If they are reasonably mature then 4 to the gram would be a good guide.
I agree with another poster here that the graph does not correlate to my experience with cyans compared to cubes. 1 gram cyan seems to have the same effect as 2 grams cubes.

That graph is for Psilocybe cyanescens and not Panaeolus cyanescens
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tha_doctor said: Where abouts along the coast to you go huntnig man? Also, what time of the year?
Only psilocybin mushies i've found have been subs. I'm really keen on findnig some cyans now 
You wont find Panaeolus cyanescens in Victoria, you need to go further North to find the tropical dung-lovers.
K-13 to the rescue once again!
Thanks man
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens dosing (no scale) [Re: tha_doctor]
#13712902 - 12/31/10 07:50 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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I get my P. cyanescens in the bay area.
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Patlal
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Re: Psilocybe cyanescens dosing (no scale) [Re: tha_doctor]
#13712931 - 12/31/10 07:57 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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tha_doctor said:
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tha_doctor said:
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Well there ya go. You were right 
Doesn't psilocybin get converted to psilocin when eaten though? So why aren't the levels the same?
Psilocybin sure does get converted into psilocin.
Your question sounds like one that only a scientist would be able to answer. However, i wouldn't be surprised if someone on Shroomery knew the answer
Psilocybin gets covertered to psilocyn in the liver anywhere from 40 to 60%.
The rest is the left over in the chemical reaction between the liver and psilocybin
It is diffenrent in everoby due to different nutrition and shit
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