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Offlinewhite_rabbit
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last extraction ? i swear
    #1370852 - 03/12/03 09:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i read and read mabe i missed it or im just not that bright catching on to dosages but can some one tell me if i have a gram of dryed crystals and i add ever clear to them how much would 1 gram make so i know how much ever clear to put in the so i can melt it down and consume that way?
example i want to make each hit 1 cc how many cc's would 1 gram of crystals make?
i cant do the math of say ok 3 grams of dryed shroom = blah blah
cause i didnt use shrooms i used the cake


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: white_rabbit]
    #1371029 - 03/12/03 11:34 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Just eat some of the crystals,hell that's what I'd do :laugh: 


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: white_rabbit]
    #1371416 - 03/13/03 05:43 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

when you're talking about the same subject - compound your questions into the original thread, no need to make multiples, and clutter the forum.


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: Raadt]
    #1373127 - 03/13/03 03:31 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

well lets do some math. The average cubbie has a .63%(erowid) concentration of psilocybin(assuming this would be the only chem extracted) and the average dry dose is lets say 4g. .063 * 4 = 250mg appx. so a *hit* would be 250mg. if you had one gram to dissolve that would be 4cc and it should evenly dissolve, but you should shake before you seperate into vials to be safe.
***I fucked the math up as expected, check below for my fixer***


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: rommstein2001]
    #1373134 - 03/13/03 03:35 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

but you have to figure in other chems as well. The psilocin, baeocystin, etc. So I'd use the same calculations, extract those chems and and the reletive amounts to the hits to assure a quality trip and so you won't waste. All calculations are based on reletively pure extractions, if you have a lot of gunk in the extract then you have to find it's mass and add that to the equation. I'm probably way off since I'm high off my ass.


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: rommstein2001]
    #1373150 - 03/13/03 03:43 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

lemme edit this, for a 150 lb person i just read the dose is 6-20mg. so one gram crystal to 50cc everclear.


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: rommstein2001]
    #1373200 - 03/13/03 04:07 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

He used mycelium which is different than the carpaphores.If he used the fruits he could have just divided up the extract by the grams he started with( ex: if he had 4 he could evaporate to 4cc)


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: rommstein2001]
    #1373236 - 03/13/03 04:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

wow that a big gap 1 gram= 50cc and 1 gram=4 cc im not using dryed shrooms thos im using dryed cakes that never had a flush. u think that make a diff?


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: white_rabbit]
    #1373244 - 03/13/03 04:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

No,I said IF you used 4 grams,then you COULD evaporate to 4cc's


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: Anonymous]
    #1373262 - 03/13/03 04:33 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

opps srry bout that strictly thanks for the correction lol


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: white_rabbit]
    #1373272 - 03/13/03 04:38 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It's okay,it was just an example


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: Anonymous]
    #1373936 - 03/13/03 09:30 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

after doing the first extraction do i let the crumbled cake dry again befor doing the 2nd and 3rd extraction?


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: white_rabbit]
    #1379625 - 03/16/03 02:31 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i think you are trying something people here have no clear knowledge of, why dont u do some _***SAFE***_ experiments and start another post with the results?  ...i know id love you :wink:


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: amyloid]
    #1382470 - 03/17/03 04:01 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I thought you have to know the solubility of Psilocybin/Psilocin in Ethanol before determining how much of the chemical is in a certain volume of said liquid..... just my two cents.


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Re: last extraction ? i swear [Re: mesq]
    #1382695 - 03/17/03 05:50 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Assuming you have an excessive amount of solvent, as would occur with three extractions with ethanol, you can kinda assume that the number of doses you started with are all in the solvent (nonscientific, if its less no harm done, if its more - well how would that be possible?). While you are reducing the solvent, as long as nothing precipitates, then those doses are still distributed pretty evenly through out the solution. Once salts precipitate however, the potency of any part of the solution can not be accuratly determined without scientific methods (TLC would be a good one).

Luckily psilocybin is realitivly non-toxic. Messing up on the extraction will either result in little to no effect, in which case you must up the dosage, or in a undesired, possibly psychologically damaging, yet physically harmless intense experiance.

This is not to say that you cannot cause physical damage with psilocybin. If you are extracting enough doses and consume all of them, it could kill you. If you work with smaller batches however you are pretty safe.

Never use anyone but yourself as a test subject, at least for inital testing. Endangering others without their knowledge is NOT cool.

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