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OfflineTold
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spawn kits....
    #1370822 - 03/12/03 09:41 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

ive got a spawn kit... with this hay. i pasturised the hay for 60 min. i then accidently added this white powder stuff i thought would of grown the mushrooms in the hay. but i later found out it was some sort of like nutriants for the mushrooms. well after i found this out i was so pissed. (im a newbie... can yea tell?) any ways i left the nutriants shit in there for 2 days and a little white mold grew on the top of the hay, i am pretty sure it was the top and it was just a very little amount like 10 1 cm small fury ball things. well what i did was take the hay out and poor hot water into the hay and washed out all of the nutriants shit. then i drained the hay and mixed in this kinda grain stuff.

alright its now mixed in and packed down and upstairs under a couch cultivating. its been about 2 more days now after i did this and there doesnt seem to be much action, and its really moist+hot inside of it. does it need to be dry in order to work? do you think it will grow? or should i just chuck it? (btw this stuff is from a grow kit)

but theres one more thing i want to know. the nutriants stuff is that absolutly neccesary? because i threw the water out. if it is were can i buy a substitute?

i also have this soil in which i must mix in 1 litre of water in 2 weeks let sit over night then shake loosly over the hay+spawn mix. this i pressume makes the mushrooms actually start to grow? iono. im so lost and i would love some answers, lotsa answers and your experiances with spawn kits. THANKS!


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Re: spawn kits.... [Re: Told]
    #1370919 - 03/12/03 10:32 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

you need to read the faqs.


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Re: spawn kits.... [Re: Trife]
    #1370944 - 03/12/03 10:44 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

no i simply asked a direct question because the answer to my questions can only be answered by fellow shroomers who have been in the same position and know what to do. i did read it and it did not help me in the slightest. please if anyone can still help me id appreciate it. thanks


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Re: spawn kits.... [Re: Told]
    #1370976 - 03/12/03 10:56 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Trife is right.
The reason why you should read the faq is that you get a basic overview ofer the whole process.
This will answer most if not all of your questions.

Be self sufficient! www.shroomery.org/faq


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Re: spawn kits.... [Re: Told]
    #1370987 - 03/12/03 11:03 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Were there spores involved?

Where were the spores?


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Re: spawn kits.... [Re: Told]
    #1370995 - 03/12/03 11:07 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

no i simply asked a direct question because the answer to my questions can only be answered by fellow shroomers who have been in the same position and know what to do. i did read it and it did not help me in the slightest. please if anyone can still help me id appreciate it. thanks




you didn't even bother reading it because from your post it's obvious that you have no idea what you are doing/talking about

'alright its now mixed in and packed down and upstairs under a couch cultivating.'

read the faqs, learn about what your attempting to do, dude.


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Re: spawn kits.... [Re: Trife]
    #1371012 - 03/12/03 11:21 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

meh i should of been more specific. the kit is under the couch because its dark and warm there (only place i could find thats 85 degree F) ok im going to read the FAQ. some more i will post when im done.


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Re: spawn kits.... [Re: Told]
    #1371024 - 03/12/03 11:32 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i read this

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7937

ok now that casing mix.. is it necessary?

i dont fully understand it if i do...
TIP 3: A great casing mix is 8 parts peat moss, 8 parts vermiculite, 1 part lime flour. Saturate 80% of it with tap water then mix in the remaining 20% dry to get the moisture right. You can pasteurize the casing by cooking it at 160?F (that's the warm setting on most ovens) covered with foil for 2 hours. Do not sterilize the casing. Many respectable mycologists discourage sterilization of the casing.


can someone run me through this? thanks. oh and i have done everything correctly so far by the FAQ. im waiting for the straw to colonise right now. day 2.

thanks for your help all!.


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Re: spawn kits.... [Re: Told]
    #1371037 - 03/12/03 11:43 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

What did you spawn the straw with?


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Re: spawn kits.... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1371044 - 03/12/03 11:53 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

im not leaving this thread so yea keep the answers flowin.

im not sure really as i said it all came as a kit. it looked like a bunch of grain. dark and a little big.

here i took some pics but i posted em on another board just click the link and scroll. dont worrie there are no popups.

http://forum.grasscity.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=131351#post131351

EDIT,

the grain are those white thnigs. they turned into em or somthing or i just cant see em. n e hoo thats em. please help


Edited by Told (03/13/03 12:35 AM)


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Re: spawn kits.... [Re: Told]
    #1371142 - 03/13/03 01:19 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

So you saw mycelium growth, and washed it off!? You really should have read up on doing this BEFORE going about it.

From your description, it honestly sounds like you started to get mycelium growth [the white stuff] which is good, and washed it away. Mycelium is the first stage [if you will] in mushroom growth. First the mycelium should colonize the substrate, and then the mushrooms grow off of the mycelium.

By taking it out, and washing it, you ruined it. Ive seen pre-innoculated spawn bags before, and I take it this is what you got. You will now see NO growth, as you haven't added anymore spores. [unles it wasnt a pre-innoculated bag and you did add more spores after washing it]

Yes the nutrients are neccessary. Without it the mycelium can't grow. Using the PF TEK as an example, the vermiculite is to hold in moisture, and the brown rice flower/whole wheat flower is the 'food' for the mycelium.

Consider this a blessing. Spawn bags are usually a rip IMO. You spend a hefty amount of cahs, and don't get that much out of it. I suggest you read up on growing the mushrooms from scratch, without any kits or bags. The PF TEL is the simplest way to go, and I suggest this tutorial:

http://www.fungifun.org/pf/pf_en.htm

Everything is explained well, and it has pictures so you can geta a visual to go along with the text instructions. It explains the entire proccess of growing. It explains about substrate, sterilization, innoculation, and incubation. After reading this, most other teks will make a lot more sense.


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