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OoBYCoO
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: acidonion]
#13696675 - 12/28/10 03:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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acidonion said: Any idea how that compares to perlite?
Expanded Clay Balls Rapidly becoming popular among marijuana growers, expanded clay balls are the next best thing to sliced bread! Clay balls can be used in any hydroponic system because of their simple makeup. They are molded and then fired in a furnace at extremely high temperatures (2,000o F!) to make them porous. The intense heat causes thousands of microscopic pores to form on the exterior of the balls. These tiny holes trap the nutrient mixture and oxygen in the perfect combination. Water rushing over the clay pellets is made more turbulent by the pores and is aerated, like a rushing stream. Since the raw material that makes up these pellets is baked clay, water solutions that pass over will retain their pH balance. Brand names of clay pellets to look for Geo-lite, Gro-rocks, Grorox and Hydroton. Perlite Perlite is a very useful growing medium, being extraordinarily light when dry and having a high water retention rate (up to 30%). It is made by super heating volcanic rock past its melting point. This causes the rock to expand and shatter, leaving thousands of flakes of porous material. Perlite has the odd characteristic of being able to absorb water, but not nutrients. This is good for your plants in that the nutrients are not bound as in soil. Although perlite can be used by itself, its cost can be prohibitive. There are two different types of perlite on the market; the medium grade (3 mm in diameter), and the fine grade.
Quoted from the book, Hydroponic Heroin.
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: OoBYCoO]
#13696849 - 12/28/10 04:28 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've noticed that so far in order to keep RH, you need all holes completely stuffed with polyfil, otherwise RH drops down to 40% real quick...
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: slapphappypill]
#13696917 - 12/28/10 04:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why would you want to take the polyfill out?
Remember I told you that you can't do a shotgun style w/ this method.
Edited by OoBYCoO (12/28/10 04:44 PM)
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: OoBYCoO]
#13697021 - 12/28/10 05:07 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I remember that, but I know that the traditional mono's allow a hole to be left open, figured I'd check to see how that affects FAE and RH. Now I know for sure haha
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: jokefox]
#13697808 - 12/28/10 07:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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boredcertified said: Why only trade x7x in a certain thread? I have it, am I in a secret club I am not aware of?
 Anywho... that FC is like a PMP/mono hybrid.... Good design, I agree a vicks with a ultra would produce better. Good luck! BC
its the responsibility or isolating what the thread asks you to , and not just trade it out like a greedy trader ,
thats the attitude i hate , and members like you i try not to trade with becuase of a lack of responsibility like that
do you even know what we are doing with the x7x print , do you even know the thread and yes it is a club 
notice who is on the first page http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12260835#12260835
Fuck you Joke..... I was being sarcastic you dickhead. FYI I give away more than you will probably ever have. Asshole It is people like YOU thinking spores/plant cuttings make you special that create markets like the one the marijuana growers saw when people were paying over a grand for a hybrid clone. Who's greedy? Go puff a joint dickhead. Be well  BC
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
#13697946 - 12/28/10 08:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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umm... just an fyi, Joke does tons of trades... 67 ratings so far... you have 9...
That being said, no reason to be fighting guys, that doesn't have anything to do with the topic
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: slapphappypill]
#13697964 - 12/28/10 08:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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whatever
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: slapphappypill]
#13697972 - 12/28/10 08:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not fighting  Carry on. Yes, I did read the x7x thread joke. I m glad he trades a lot, he must be a great guy. Be blessed, sorry to thread jack, but his comment was totally uncalled for. BC
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
#13697991 - 12/28/10 08:25 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can't we all just get along?!?!? lol
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: OoBYCoO]
#13698016 - 12/28/10 08:30 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok so as far as my cakes in there, should I start using med grade verm as opposed to the fine verm in the pic? I've seen more people using med...
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: slapphappypill]
#13698017 - 12/28/10 08:31 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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slapphappypill said: yeah!!! so far it keeps 100% humidity!
Bummer.
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: slapphappypill]
#13698030 - 12/28/10 08:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hold up a sec... I noticed in the pic of your cakes that all the verm you rolled them in after the dunk has completely fallen off and is sitting on the foil that the cakes are on. Did you wait about 30 min's after you rolled them to start misting them?
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: eniac]
#13698034 - 12/28/10 08:35 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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slapphappypill said: yeah!!! so far it keeps 100% humidity!
Bummer. 
Why is that a bummer?
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: OoBYCoO]
#13698093 - 12/28/10 08:47 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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naw, those are the cakes that were re-dunked after sitting for 2 weeks not pining. the verm washed off them in the dunk. I was thinking about re-rolling and decided not to as the cakes have a lot of moisture as it is, and I'm just looking for pining at this point
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: OoBYCoO]
#13698110 - 12/28/10 08:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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OoBYCoO said: Why is that a bummer?
You guys ever hear of Roger Rabbit? The guy's been growing mushrooms a while, and he's been posting a while. Read his notes about pinning triggers, he's pretty insistent about evaporation.
Has this thing grown any mushrooms yet?
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: slapphappypill]
#13698112 - 12/28/10 08:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh ok.. just leave 'em. I use this verm...
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: eniac]
#13698131 - 12/28/10 08:55 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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OoBYCoO said: Why is that a bummer?
You guys ever hear of Roger Rabbit? The guy's been growing mushrooms a while, and he's been posting a while. Read his notes about pinning triggers, he's pretty insistent about evaporation.
Has this thing grown any mushrooms yet?
No offence man, but if you would have read any of my posts, you'd see I just set this up today and will be posting results as this goes on. There is plenty of FAE which is the #1 pinning trigger and plenty or rh to support it.
-SHP
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
Edited by slapphappypill (12/28/10 09:03 PM)
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OoBYCoO
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: eniac]
#13698135 - 12/28/10 08:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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OoBYCoO said: Why is that a bummer?
You guys ever hear of Roger Rabbit? The guy's been growing mushrooms a while, and he's been posting a while. Read his notes about pinning triggers, he's pretty insistent about evaporation.
Has this thing grown any mushrooms yet?
You're still not making any sense bro. I DO know RR, I have ALL his videos and have watched them many many times and yes this way has made mushrooms look here... My PESH as I posted earlier in this thread.
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: jokefox]
#13698202 - 12/28/10 09:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey jokefox sorry to interrupt you giving a ass chewing. But my geek side has to comment on the condensation / humidity thing.
Condensation happens due to temperature changes. humidity has nothing to do with condensation... I will give an example... You have a ice cold water bottle, and your in the middle of a dry hot desert... why does the water bottle develop condensation on the outside? Because of temperature drawing moisture. cold air carries less moisture. and hot air carries more moisture... that is why condensation happens on the OUTSIDE of the water bottle and not the inside...
Another example, while pouring agar petri dishes, condensation can build up on the INSIDE of the plates because it is warmer than the surrounding air thus warm air drawing moisture because it "absorbs" more moisture....
Humidity is the amount of moisture in the air. if the air meets 100% moisture content you cannot see it... as it is "asorbed" not when tempurature fluxes that can cause fog... fog is not humidity.... it is actually condensation... condensation DOES raise humidity tho (this is why fog forms near the ground... the air temp is lower than the ground temp and the ground retains moisture... thus warm air and cold air mixing... forming condensation creating fog...
Thanks for listening to the geek inside me...
And now is when someone tells me to shut the fuck up, rolls there eyes or looks genuinely annoyed. feel free to do so now... Thank you.
Edited by Shot.In.Orbit (12/28/10 09:15 PM)
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Re: New FC idea, Home-made Myco Garden / mono tube hybrid!! [Re: Shot.In.Orbit]
#13698253 - 12/28/10 09:20 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Very well said.
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