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OfflineBluntOMatic
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.. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix ..
    #1369380 - 03/12/03 02:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Hi,

I am about to start my first grow soon, I have ordered Amazonian and Golden Teacher spore syringes from sporeworks..

I recently read the thread about the PF-Birdseed tek, and I went and got some Pennington's wild bird seed as suggested..

I have to get the Scott's 2-in-1 compost mix and vermiculite/brf still, but I will get them soon..

I have Kerr 1/2 pint jars which I will be using..

My question is, how much birdseed to add along with the standard PF tek recipe ?

Thanks


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: BluntOMatic]
    #1369486 - 03/12/03 03:06 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

just use wbs instead of brf .
brf is not needed IMO. but you will need a pc for whole grain .


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: BluntOMatic]
    #1369926 - 03/12/03 05:08 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

damn search.  :frown: 


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: george castanza]
    #1370269 - 03/12/03 06:37 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

deanofmean:  Thanks man, yet, what is WBS ?  I was refering to a thread I read regarding mixing bird seed in with the PFC tek ..

I'm not using grain, so what does my question have to do with grain ?

Peace.  :laugh:

george castanza:  You have enough time to come in here and tell me to 'damn search', yet you don't have enough time to answer my SIMPLE question ?  .. get the fuck outta here if you can't simply help me out with a question.. if I wanted to search and read pages upon pages for my SIMPLE question, I would fucking buy a book.. don't be a dick please.  Thank you.

Now. .. since I am new to this site, would anybody like to help me?  Otherwise I'll just go back to overgrow dot com where the people can actually help with my questions rather than tell me to search, and waste THEIR time AND mine..

Peace

Now how much do I mix into my brf tek?  birdseed that is..



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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: BluntOMatic]
    #1370285 - 03/12/03 06:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

.. These are forums, right? For asking questions? Since mine is simple, can I get an answer ? If I knew some pros (such as yourself), then I could just ASK them.. correct??

.. I mean, if you want me to search, or buy a book.. then what would I EVER need these forums for ?

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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: BluntOMatic]
    #1370296 - 03/12/03 06:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

.. Besides, I can't search because they're doing 'server upgrades'.. so George Constaza, take your 'damn search' shit someplace else... perhaps Google, because I'm not fucking interested in hearing your shit..

You have the time to reply to me with your foolish shit, then you have time to answer my god damned question..


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: BluntOMatic]
    #1370574 - 03/12/03 08:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

wbf = wild bird seed . you will need to pc it because it is  whole grain  
also see this  link
good luck  :wink:
 


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: deanofmean]
    #1370592 - 03/12/03 08:22 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

why would anyone want to answer such a hate filled individual?

i sure wouldn't, and i wont :smile:


usually one is nice to the person that knows the answers to the question one is seeking...


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: Trife]
    #1370798 - 03/12/03 09:31 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

ok, i will ignore you then.


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: deanofmean]
    #1370813 - 03/12/03 09:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Dudes calm down. I got it right here.
10 parts bird seed (steeped in a pot with hot water till they expand, then drain the water)
3.5 parts Brown rice flour
2 parts flax seed meal (said to increase potency)
5 parts verm
and water to consistancy (depending on your humidity this will be diffrent)
A tip: use the water you get out of the steeping pot

Peace man


Edited by SemperUbiSubUbi (03/12/03 09:44 PM)


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: SemperUbiSubUbi]
    #1370826 - 03/12/03 09:42 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you guys, much appreciated..

Trife: I am not at all 'hateful', I just don't like being told 'damn search', that kind of wording aggrivates me .. sorry but I can't help it.

Thanks so much for the answers my friends..

Peace


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: BluntOMatic]
    #1370837 - 03/12/03 09:47 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Semper: I didn't know about the 'flax' part, where to get that?

Also, I am not very good at math or any kind of measuring stuff.. so can you explain what you mean by 'parts' ?

I mean, I can understand things like "if you want to make ten 1/2 pint jars, use 5 cups of this.. 3 cups of that, etc etc" ..

but parts, i'm not sure how that works..

sorry, but i'm dumb.


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: BluntOMatic]
    #1370843 - 03/12/03 09:49 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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I just don't like being told 'damn search'




this is how wars got started! I believe mr constanza was referring to the fact that the damn search function is still down. you kind of leapt to one conclusion, there. take a chill pill, friend.  :tongue: 


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: BluntOMatic]
    #1370885 - 03/12/03 10:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I got this recipe from a spore provider (I don't want to name names, If it is soo important you can PM me about it.)    Flax seeds are supposed to contain alot of the precursor chemicals your shrooms use to make the trippy chemicals.  You should be able to find it in a health food store, pretty much in the same section you would find the brown rice flour.
As for the parts part  :smirk: you could replace the word "part" with "cup" if you prefer or "half cup"  or even "10000000000 cups".  Its called a ratio (pronounced rAy-shO, ask your math teacher about it) you can use any measurements you want but just keep it consistant
and I am sorry to say that I am too lazy to do your math
Stay in school kiddies. 


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: SemperUbiSubUbi]
    #1370893 - 03/12/03 10:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

flax seeds are also known as linseed


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: shirley knott]
    #1370898 - 03/12/03 10:20 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you shirley, I didn't know that.


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: SemperUbiSubUbi]
    #1370913 - 03/12/03 10:28 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

1) Take chill pill


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: SemperUbiSubUbi]
    #1371054 - 03/13/03 12:00 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Dudes calm down. I got it right here.
10 parts bird seed (steeped in a pot with hot water till they expand, then drain the water)
3.5 parts Brown rice flour
2 parts flax seed meal (said to increase potency)
5 parts verm
and water to consistancy (depending on your humidity this will be diffrent)
A tip: use the water you get out of the steeping pot





Okay so if I replace the word 'parts' with 'cups', since I like to use cups for my measuring needs.. then you're saying I need to mix 10 cups WBS, 3.5 cups BRF, 2 cups flax seed meal, 5 cups verm, and water until it's field capacity ?

.. How many 1/2 pint jars will that take care of ?

.. What is 'steeping' I've never heard this term, I assume it means to boil in water ?
After the WBS has been boiled, how do I know when they're good to go into my mix? And what do I want to use the same water for why not fresh water ?

Peace and thanks again..
(sorry I suck at math)


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: BluntOMatic]
    #1371057 - 03/13/03 12:01 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

george costanza: sorry to jump to conlcusions.. :laugh:

I hope you forgive me.

Also, I'm chill, sorry to go overboard guys, I was just frustrated and I'm under a lot of stress lately.. one reason I want to grow some mushrooms and have a nice reflective trip at Mount Rainier..

Peace


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Re: .. pf-birdseed tek, how much to mix .. [Re: BluntOMatic]
    #1371066 - 03/13/03 12:07 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

okay I'm gonna do a quick ramble and hope that you guys will correct me ..

I will make the above mix for my substrate.. using Pennington's Wild Bird Seed Mix, Brown Rice Four, Flax, and Vermiculite ..

Once my mix is prepared, I will put it into my jars and steralize as usual.. innoculating after jars are cooled the next day or so..

Then let the jars incubate as normal..

Then I am going to crumble my cakes after birthing, into a casing.. which I will use a large dark green rubbermaid container for..

At the bottom of the rubbermaid I will put a layer of limestone & crushed oyster shells, then I will put my Scott's 2-in-1 compost/soil and then I will crumble my cakes onto that layer.. then I will cover with 50/50 verm/soil and hand mist & hand fan daily ..

Is this correct ? (i skipped all the fiddly bits in between because I am familiar with them for the most part, i just want to get the basic overview)

Any feedback is more than appreciated


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Edited by BluntOMatic (03/13/03 12:09 AM)


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