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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: 4896744]
#13699878 - 12/29/10 09:08 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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MarkostheGnostic said: Uh...no. I do not suffer from schizophrenia. People are not "schizo," they have an illness.
I didn't say you had schizophrenia. I was making a joke about leery. And don't be a semantics bitch because i said someone is schizo instead of writing out the person has the illness schizophrenia. It means the same thing.
It's a matter of sensitivity here, of courtesy to others. besides, the medical model reduces an entire human being to a disease, and referring to someone as 'schizo,' or 'bipolar,' (the new insult for moody people) is just that - insulting. Semantics, semiotics, epistemology is all about the clarity of communicating knowledge. So instead of calling ME names, why not work on your own writing skills?
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: CosmicJoke]
#13699883 - 12/29/10 09:11 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree with Icelander, but if you're like me, mushrooms are the only available change-agent, and given mushrooms or nothing, I would certainly suggest them to your uncle.
I think that MDMA would be the least risky myself, it's softer/more ego-friendly, and more likely to help somebody open up and talk about uncomfortable subjects surrounding death. On the other hand, I'm fairly sure at this point that all of the said entheogens have been shown to have some success in treating anxiety/depression with terminally ill cancer patients (various MAPS research studies), but surely they were carefully planned in therapeutic environments.
~ To the OP: Whatever you decide, my thoughts are with you.. 
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#13699961 - 12/29/10 09:32 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, colloquially speaking, crazy, nuts, bonkers, bats-in-the-bellfry, off-your-rocker, loco, etc.. But these terms are usually dismissive, or insulting. I use them myself, but not to someone directly.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#13699995 - 12/29/10 09:41 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I tell em they got splinters in the windmills of their mind.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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MarkostheGnostic said: Uh...no. I do not suffer from schizophrenia. People are not "schizo," they have an illness.
I didn't say you had schizophrenia. I was making a joke about leery. And don't be a semantics bitch because i said someone is schizo instead of writing out the person has the illness schizophrenia. It means the same thing.
It's a matter of sensitivity here, of courtesy to others. besides, the medical model reduces an entire human being to a disease, and referring to someone as 'schizo,' or 'bipolar,' (the new insult for moody people) is just that - insulting. Semantics, semiotics, epistemology is all about the clarity of communicating knowledge. So instead of calling ME names, why not work on your own writing skills?
I am white. How dare i reduce myself to a mere color?!?! Oh wait that is just the way sentences are organized when giving a trait to someone.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#13701282 - 12/29/10 02:31 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use them myself, but not to someone directly.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#13701429 - 12/29/10 02:58 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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His Lady keeps them in her nightstand. She occasionally finds use for them.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: Icelander]
#13701498 - 12/29/10 03:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#13703705 - 12/29/10 11:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use them myself, but not to someone directly.
No balls?
Yes balls. Just not an asshole.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: Icelander]
#13703716 - 12/29/10 11:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said: His Lady keeps them in her nightstand. She occasionally finds use for them.

Apparently, you enjoy this response.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: 4896744]
#13703723 - 12/29/10 11:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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MarkostheGnostic said: Uh...no. I do not suffer from schizophrenia. People are not "schizo," they have an illness.
I didn't say you had schizophrenia. I was making a joke about leery. And don't be a semantics bitch because i said someone is schizo instead of writing out the person has the illness schizophrenia. It means the same thing.
It's a matter of sensitivity here, of courtesy to others. besides, the medical model reduces an entire human being to a disease, and referring to someone as 'schizo,' or 'bipolar,' (the new insult for moody people) is just that - insulting. Semantics, semiotics, epistemology is all about the clarity of communicating knowledge. So instead of calling ME names, why not work on your own writing skills?
I am white. How dare i reduce myself to a mere color?!?! Oh wait that is just the way sentences are organized when giving a trait to someone.
I know...it's difficult to transform crass to class, but maybe if you keep at it...
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#13704653 - 12/30/10 06:13 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I assume you think I am a rude/mean person in real life too. I am actually extremely nice and respectful to everyone I interact with, and i follow all of the common niceties of society. However, when I am posting in a philosophy forum where the point is to debate i drop these niceties.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#13705586 - 12/30/10 11:56 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use them myself, but not to someone directly.
No balls?
Yes balls. Just not an asshole.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: 4896744]
#13709043 - 12/30/10 10:54 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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iThink said: I assume you think I am a rude/mean person in real life too. I am actually extremely nice and respectful to everyone I interact with, and i follow all of the common niceties of society. However, when I am posting in a philosophy forum where the point is to debate i drop these niceties.
Yes, of course, philosophy has nothing to do with higher levels of intellectual, moral, and affective vectors of human development, to say nothing of socio-cultural, aesthetic and artistic sensibilities. This is JUST the place to evoke the breakdown of any civilizing tendencies of humans to move toward more sophisticated models of community; to develop harmonies of thought, sympathies of feeling, even leading to near-telepathic and synchronistic modes of communication. Nah...forget all that high-falootin' stuff and let's just argue in the name of debate. Manners? We don't need no stinkin' manners!
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#13709818 - 12/31/10 01:43 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use them myself, but not to someone directly.
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Yes balls. Just not an asshole.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#13709978 - 12/31/10 02:28 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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iThink said: I assume you think I am a rude/mean person in real life too. I am actually extremely nice and respectful to everyone I interact with, and i follow all of the common niceties of society. However, when I am posting in a philosophy forum where the point is to debate i drop these niceties.
Yes, of course, philosophy has nothing to do with higher levels of intellectual, moral, and affective vectors of human development, to say nothing of socio-cultural, aesthetic and artistic sensibilities. This is JUST the place to evoke the breakdown of any civilizing tendencies of humans to move toward more sophisticated models of community; to develop harmonies of thought, sympathies of feeling, even leading to near-telepathic and synchronistic modes of communication. Nah...forget all that high-falootin' stuff and let's just argue in the name of debate. Manners? We don't need no stinkin' manners!
Annndddd now you lost me. I disagree. My position is that everything you just spoke of is irrational bullshit with no purpose other than to increase our happiness which sure, i can subscribe to as i go throughout life because it makes me happy too, but when discussing the true nature of things in a philosophy forum I will not bend to these irrational ideas.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: 4896744]
#13710528 - 12/31/10 08:42 AM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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Annndddd now you lost me. I disagree. My position is that everything you just spoke of is irrational bullshit with no purpose other than to increase our happiness which sure, i can subscribe to as i go throughout life because it makes me happy too, but when discussing the true nature of things in a philosophy forum I will not bend to these irrational ideas.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: 4896744]
#13710748 - 12/31/10 10:00 AM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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My position is that everything you just spoke of is irrational bullshit with no purpose other than to increase our happiness which sure, i can subscribe to as i go throughout life because it makes me happy too,
If logically the ultimate goal of logic is to bring us happiness then as long as you have determined that what you believe really does make you the happiest then imo it's very logical to believe it. The fact of weather it's true or not should be of no importance unless that belief puts you in physical danger.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: Icelander]
#13711735 - 12/31/10 02:32 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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Icelander said: My position is that everything you just spoke of is irrational bullshit with no purpose other than to increase our happiness which sure, i can subscribe to as i go throughout life because it makes me happy too,
If logically the ultimate goal of logic is to bring us happiness then as long as you have determined that what you believe really does make you the happiest then imo it's very logical to believe it. The fact of weather it's true or not should be of no importance unless that belief puts you in physical danger.
Sorry my last response was pretty bad. I kind of skimmed marcos's post. I do hold these things he mentioned to be untrue "sympathies of feeling, even leading to near-telepathic and synchronistic modes of communication". Let me clarify my poorly put together responses with this as it touches on the original disagreement. I am very kind and respectful in real life due to my empathetic nature and it creating more happiness due to people liking me more. However, I am posting online so everything becomes very impersonal and these interactions have no effect on me (unless an argument i agree with is brought up), so i don't really care about hurting someone's feelings.
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Re: Can mushrooms help the terminally ill and the time they have? [Re: 4896744]
#13711852 - 12/31/10 03:00 PM (13 years, 30 days ago) |
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However, I am posting online so everything becomes very impersonal and these interactions have no effect on me (unless an argument i agree with is brought up), so i don't really care about hurting someone's feelings.
Please don't PM me anymore then.
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