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Invisibleenacid
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amanitas help
    #1368429 - 03/12/03 08:56 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i recently got ahold of some amanitas... not too much information about what the trip is like is out there, erowid and lycaeum pretty much give "possible effects" and explain them too sientifically for me to really interperet, ive only tripped on psylocibes once before, and it was an intense experience for me, id like to knpow more about this amanitas shroom before i try, if anyone has done it before let me know what im in for, i wanna be safe so knowledge i seek

thanx


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Re: amanitas help [Re: enacid]
    #1369086 - 03/12/03 12:32 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Made me dance. Of course i was at a Grateful Dead show at Red Rocks but when i was doing some online research about them i came upon a picture of a Siberian Shaman it was old from like the early part of the century or before he was dancing and as soon as my eyes met that image i felt that profound sense of astonishment a recognition . it was like yes thats it they got me dancing but it was kinf of a frenzied really intense almost like wardance. I remember a fellow dancer asking me if i was alright . It was in the middle of a smoking Samson and Delilah so i was kinda pissed at him for breaking my groove and i just kind of glared at him wonding to myself what the hell he could be talking baout but maybe i looked insane. I heard that the vikings took alot of them before going into battel, which put them into the state they called going Berzerk.Thai was on one half of a cap id say about three inches across. keep asking before you try.


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Invisibleenacid
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Re: amanitas help [Re: ArdRi]
    #1370419 - 03/12/03 07:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

so the way you describe it, sounds less intense? i dunno i dont even think i could stand up and dance when i shroom :smile:


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Re: amanitas help [Re: enacid]
    #1371665 - 03/13/03 07:17 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Amanitas produce very different effects from Psilocybe mushrooms, as the active chemicals are completely different and work on the brain in different ways.

This is demonstrated by the fact that it is preferable to dry Amanitas using heat before consumption, as this produces more of the active chemical, whereas drying Psilocybes using heat will actually destroy the active chemical!

I have never eaten Amanitas myself, but from what I've read, the effects are similar to drunkeness with some minor hallucinations. I've heard that sounds and colors can become intensified, and synesthesia (blending of the senses) sometimes occurs.

It's very important to make sure you have the right species of Amanita, though! There are many species that will kill you!! Also, if they're not dried and consumed properly, they might do nothing but produce nausea.

Good luck, and be safe, my friend! I love to see people seeking knowledge about a drug before they put it into their body, and I hope something I said here has helped you!

-RebelSteve


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Re: amanitas help [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1371677 - 03/13/03 07:25 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I've heard they be smoked with effects similar to pot.

Do some research before you try it, though..


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Re: amanitas help [Re: ]
    #1372413 - 03/13/03 11:27 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Does ingesting amanita muscaria have many or any serious negative effects??


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Re: amanitas help [Re: pleasesmokemarijuana]
    #1373163 - 03/13/03 03:51 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

im positive of the strain i have, "amanitas muscaria (fly agaric)"

im planning to do it with 2 other people each of us will be ingesting 4.5 grams (5g - 10g being a common dose). the information i recieved however that bothers me most is " Individuals can respond differently to the same dosage. What is safe for one can be deadly for another. "

this worries me some, i hope taking just under the regular dose will keep me and my fellow trippers within a safe range even if one of us happens to react strongly to it.

i hope to find more about preparation as it seems its very important to whether or not you take in a potent or weak dose.

another thing that sort of touches on a personal note with me, maybe someone else out there can share this... i have only ingested psylocibe mushrooms once before, and it has been the only hallucenogen i have experienced, and in my experience my minds first reaction to the hallucenations was fear, and at that point i felt my body started to flush out adrenaline. how does that affect the trip? if anyone else has had a massive adrenaline rush on shrooms... what does it do to your trip?

luckily i was only scared for 2 specifics parts of the trip and all else was absolutly beautiful. but i know that when i ingest the amanitas because of what i remmeber about my first experience, my "fear glans" will be ready to fire.

im not worried about a bad trip, i wonder where adreneline fits into the trip and how it affects it.


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Re: amanitas help [Re: enacid]
    #1373178 - 03/13/03 03:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

If you're afraid of tripping you SHOULDN'T be doing it.


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Re: amanitas help [Re: pleasesmokemarijuana]
    #1373193 - 03/13/03 04:05 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

im not scared of tripping, i realise i make it sound so, just wanna know what part (if any) adrenaline rushes play into the game

im too inexperienced to really understand and explain it, im sure you guys can understand

when i get a chance to explore psylocibe more, maybe ill be able to put the experience into words better. but for now.. :smile: guess its the best i can say  :grin:


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Re: amanitas help [Re: pleasesmokemarijuana]
    #1373992 - 03/13/03 10:07 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

If you're afraid of tripping you SHOULDN'T be doing it.




i don't think you should trip unless you're afraid of it.
it means you respect it.
wait....you'll know when you're ready. just wait until it's the perfect day.


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Re: amanitas help [Re: enacid]
    #1374045 - 03/13/03 10:44 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

There information is here:
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23629


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Re: amanitas help [Re: enacid]
    #1376303 - 03/14/03 03:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I have been eating them for the last 4 years.

Please approach with respect.

Shrooms gathered from different places and seasons may vary extremely in potency.

This can be somehow a hardcore trip.

Have someone to take care of you during the whole trip (sitter) . This is a must, Or the trip may become harmfull and/or fatal.

***HAVE A NICE TRIP*** 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Oh and one more thing: "Be patient and don't under-estimate the power of the king of mushrooms"


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