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L27
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: m_m]
#13680044 - 12/24/10 04:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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To be honest here even if it was drug influenced very few people will admit it for obvious reasons. Like for example Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. No ones going to admit to writing a song about drugs if they want it to be truely successful/not gather a bad name for encouraging drug use. (Not saying that Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds was about LSD tho of course.)
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m_m
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: cheech1]
#13680048 - 12/24/10 04:44 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, there is a whole bunch of psychedelic imagery in it, so I don't blame anyone for that association, but anyone who thinks it's based on an LSD trip obviously doesn't know how to think
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Midnight_Toker
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: m_m]
#13680057 - 12/24/10 04:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can you quit bashing me? Someone pointed out very quickly in the post I was wrong except he wasn't a fucking prick about it.
I didn't know Alice in Wonderland was so old.. I just posted what I had heard on the topic, which wasn't much. I'm obviously stupid and don't know how to think.
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masterfluffypants
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: Midnight_Toker]
#13680241 - 12/24/10 05:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread makes me want to paint the roses red
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Mario_x86-64
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: masterfluffypants]
#13680804 - 12/24/10 08:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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How much similarity was there between the Alice in Wonderland produced in the 1800's and the one disney made?
Is it possible the people at disney were the ones using psychedelics and not the original writer?
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cheech1
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: Mario_x86-64]
#13682655 - 12/25/10 11:12 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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the newest one is pretty good actually, i have it on DVD too. haha i love that mad hatter.
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BothHands
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: cheech1]
#13682974 - 12/25/10 12:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you say so...
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cheech1
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: BothHands]
#13683074 - 12/25/10 01:24 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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BothHands said: If you say so...
lol. okay it's not the original but it's still pretty
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masterfluffypants
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: cheech1]
#13683173 - 12/25/10 01:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I thought the new one was lame. It didn't do justice to Alice and Wonderland. I was especially disappointed too because it was Tim Burton. He has lost his old flame IMO. The score was still great though. Danny Elfman hasn't lost his touch.
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cheech1
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: masterfluffypants]
#13683337 - 12/25/10 02:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah it isn't even near as good as the original. seems like i'm the only one that thought it was ok though haha
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Wise Toad
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: Mario_x86-64]
#13683705 - 12/25/10 04:55 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mario_x86-64 said: How much similarity was there between the Alice in Wonderland produced in the 1800's and the one disney made?
Is it possible the people at disney were the ones using psychedelics and not the original writer?
The Alice in wonderland that Disney made had a mixture of both the books: (Alice and Wonderland and Through the looking glass). An example would be (Alice talking with the flowers in the disney movie) that was from through the looking glass, but it was completely changed. Many things were left out or changed between the books and the disney movie. Of course modern writers use lots of drugs and disney is no exception. Disney has been trying to manipulate kids since the beginning: ex. The circle of life from The Lion King=reincarnation, The kids in toy story:God hates us, this, and especially this
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and yet it moves
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: Wise Toad]
#13683724 - 12/25/10 05:02 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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did anyone see the Alice for SciFi channel this past year? in the realm of so-bad-its-good made-for-tv movies it ranks up there with Robin of Loxly and X-Men: Generation X. i won't say if thats a good or bad thing
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Wise Toad
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: and yet it moves]
#13683876 - 12/25/10 05:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah the new one sucked. That whole post i just typed up was talking about the good old animated version
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powertoke33
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: Wise Toad]
#13683962 - 12/25/10 06:16 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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yea it definetly wasnt lsd because the story was written in the 1800's and the movie was made in the 50's when people didnt really hear about acid.. but i wouldnt be surprised if it was based on shrooms the country is good at hiding history from us
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Sun Lips
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: powertoke33]
#13684890 - 12/25/10 10:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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He was high on this thing called imagination. And he's not a pedophile. He wrote the book for a little girl he was fond of--that kind of thing was common in those days.
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roquet
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: L27]
#13684933 - 12/25/10 11:02 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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L27 said: Like for example Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. No ones going to admit to writing a song about drugs if they want it to be truely successful/not gather a bad name for encouraging drug use. (Not saying that Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds was about LSD tho of course.)
A lot of the imagery in Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is lifted straight from the second Alice book. Rocking horse people, looking glass ties, etc.
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Freakdaddy
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Re: Alice In Wonderland based on writers shroom trip?.... [Re: roquet]
#13684943 - 12/25/10 11:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Charlotte's Web (E. B. White) was written under the influence of LSD. E. B. White was a chum of Aldous Huxley.
Could be Alice in Wonderland was influenced by opium; but, correct, way before LSD.
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