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Bought 50g Atlantis Truffles. First Heroic Dose, with questions.
    #13664876 - 12/21/10 10:05 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Hello Shroomery.:smile:

I recently ordered some Atlantis Sclerotia, after I had some disappointing results with my first EQ grow. I also bought an Atl#7 syringe from freespores awhile back, so Ill try producing my own soon. But more on topic.

I started using pychadelics at 17 to treat anxiety, bipolar and Post traumatic stress. My first experience was with n-n Dmt. It was visually insane, though I didn't breakthrough or find It too theraputic it broke the ice for an introduction to the experience. Following that were two cubsensis,
trips (half 8th then 4 grams which was weaker then the half 8th)

Definatly very theraputic, a lot of self discovery, and also let go of  a lot of "supressed problems".
Also was with the same person both times. Led to a best friendship going through rough trips together. He eventually shared my only experience with Lsd not long after, which was also the last time I've tripped in 7 months. I guess I'm gettin at I what I'm familar with though I've never had a strong dose or dosed alone.

So to my questions.
- Being 190lbs how many fresh grams of truffles should I consume for a level 4+ trip?
-I plan on doing this in a room alone, if I'm tripping extremely hard am I at risk for moving around or hurting myself and not knowing?
- Silent darkness? Or some light and music?
- I hear of ego death commonly happening and it being associated with a feeling of being ripped apart and dieing, is it as painful as it sounds?
-  Do having intentions for the trip help or is it best to let the mush work itself?


That's about it for now. Thanks in advance!


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Re: Bought 50g Atlantis Truffles. First Heroic Dose, with questions. [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #13664884 - 12/21/10 10:08 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Completely unrelated to your question, but I've been reading threads about people cloning these things.
You get to skip over spores and go right to a culture.


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Re: Bought 50g Atlantis Truffles. First Heroic Dose, with questions. [Re: eniac]
    #13664909 - 12/21/10 10:15 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Being experienced in making "Atlantis" truffle tea - I'd say 20g wet.


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Re: Bought 50g Atlantis Truffles. First Heroic Dose, with questions. [Re: Sellith]
    #13666461 - 12/21/10 03:35 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

definitely 20 fresh


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Re: Bought 50g Atlantis Truffles. First Heroic Dose, with questions. [Re: AVA]
    #13666887 - 12/21/10 05:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

im dosing 20g of atlantis tonight myself.

have fun.


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Re: Bought 50g Atlantis Truffles. First Heroic Dose, with questions. [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #13666953 - 12/21/10 05:21 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Talking about tripping in general, I say very little light and some very chill music, like CBL, Matt Hillier, Sync24, Shulman, etc. Those are the exact groups I listen to and it produces a satisfactory trip, to say the least, when I am in the right state.

Never heard of these before. Wonder how they compare to cubies. ..GOOD LUCK!


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Re: Bought 50g Atlantis Truffles. First Heroic Dose, with questions. [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #13669666 - 12/22/10 08:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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AbstraKt_I_Am said:
Hello Shroomery.:smile:

I recently ordered some Atlantis Sclerotia, after I had some disappointing results with my first EQ grow. I also bought an Atl#7 syringe from freespores awhile back, so Ill try producing my own soon. But more on topic.

I started using pychadelics at 17 to treat anxiety, bipolar and Post traumatic stress. My first experience was with n-n Dmt. It was visually insane, though I didn't breakthrough or find It too theraputic it broke the ice for an introduction to the experience. Following that were two cubsensis,
trips (half 8th then 4 grams which was weaker then the half 8th)

Definatly very theraputic, a lot of self discovery, and also let go of  a lot of "supressed problems".
Also was with the same person both times. Led to a best friendship going through rough trips together. He eventually shared my only experience with Lsd not long after, which was also the last time I've tripped in 7 months. I guess I'm gettin at I what I'm familar with though I've never had a strong dose or dosed alone.

So to my questions.
- Being 190lbs how many fresh grams of truffles should I consume for a level 4+ trip? - No idea.
-I plan on doing this in a room alone, if I'm tripping extremely hard am I at risk for moving around or hurting myself and not knowing? - Moving around, likely, hurting yourself, unlikely if you lock all the knives away and shit, baby proof your house before you trip, but you should be quite safe.
- Silent darkness? Or some light and music? - I'd go with some light meditative music, nothing to intense. Try some didgeridoo sounds if you can find a decent collection somewhere. I'd go for a little light, but not to much. A little light kind of intensifies the visuals, to much blocks them, no light and it is just different.
- I hear of ego death commonly happening and it being associated with a feeling of being ripped apart and dieing, is it as painful as it sounds? - No, it's not as painful as it sounds, it can be a lot worse than it sounds (but not as in physical pain, as in cosmic annihilation), but it can also be the most blissful experience ever. My first ego death was incredible, my second was terrifying.
-  Do having intentions for the trip help or is it best to let the mush work itself? - Think of taking mushrooms as suicide, literally. Now, take them, expecting to die. That way, no matter what happens, you will be prepared to take it.


That's about it for now. Thanks in advance!





Also, I would recommend rather take it in daytime, around 3pm, outside, and watch the sunset, unless you are trying to work with some specific issues, day trips seems to be way more rewarding, if done in nature.


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Re: Bought 50g Atlantis Truffles. First Heroic Dose, with questions. [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #13669801 - 12/22/10 09:53 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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- Being 190lbs how many fresh grams of truffles should I consume for a level 4+ trip?




To compare to cubes, 10g Atlantis should be roughly comparable to 2g cubes (in theory).

20g Atlantis should be a fairly strong dose. If the trip doesn't feel strong enough, you could always eat a little bit more during the trip (Personally, I'd wait until 2 hours into the trip and then decide).

My experience with attempting strong doses of Atlantis is that if I eat 15g, it's very good but I want to slightly increase the dose. If I eat 20g it feels like the trip is strong enough already. Be aware that doses over 20g can sometimes feel like a chemical warfare experiment devised by cruel aliens. Not always a bad thing, but don't say I didn't warn you.

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-I plan on doing this in a room alone, if I'm tripping extremely hard am I at risk for moving around or hurting myself and not knowing?




I've never found this to be a problem, but I think how people behave when they are tripping depends on their personality. Personally, if the trip is very intense the whole idea of moving from my bed seems inconceivably difficult. Generally, I feel quite lucid on mushrooms and don't have trouble performing basic tasks like getting something to drink. If I "lose contact with reality" it's more like a dreamy trance than sleepwalking or something.

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- Silent darkness? Or some light and music?




For a solo indoor trip, I prefer listening to music on headphones (playlist chosen in advance). I like a reasonable amount of light, ideally from lamps at different places in the room. I enjoy the mixture of light and (moving) shadows.

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- I hear of ego death commonly happening and it being associated with a feeling of being ripped apart and dieing, is it as painful as it sounds?




I'd guess 20g sclerotia would not normally be enough for this, but even so it could give quite a powerful experience (depends on the potency of your particular dose). I made a long post on the subject of ego death in this thread. I wouldn't say it was painful, it's more of a psychological thing. Physically, a strong trip can feel uncomfortable, but it's not so much pain as feelings of heaviness, panic or stress, bizarre sensations and an odd sense that you no longer feel familiar with or comfortable in your body.

The feeling of dying or being ripped apart is more of a psychological thing. Sometimes you need to accept a kind of psychological "death" just in order to get through the trip, like trying to get from A to B when there is a black hole in the way. If you confuse this feeling with actual physical death, it can be quite distressing. On my last trip I was convinced I was physically dying but this was mainly due to normal humdrum physical sensations being taken as signs of some horrible fate.
Normal person: "I feel a bit hot. Maybe I should take off my shirt?"
Me during a bad trip: "I feel a bit hot. My organs are probably failing."

What makes a strong trip unpleasant, or at least hard to deal with, is the sheer intensity of the conscious experience. Your thoughts expand and race as though they are under enormous pressure, and the trip just becomes like a deeper and deeper void until it seems to eclipse reality itself. Or something like that....

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-  Do having intentions for the trip help or is it best to let the mush work itself?




No harm in having intentions, but you only really have control over the initial conditions, not the trip itself. I find a strong dose is where "you ask for 10 and they give you 11" and you very quickly feel that the trip has gone it's own way. It's best to just relax and go with it, like it's some kind of twisted theme park ride. You can't control the trip itself, but you do have some control over how you react emotionally to it.

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I do have a rather serious question on the effects of ego death on day to day life after its happened.




I guess it really depends what preconceptions you have that get destroyed during a trip. I don't really like the term "ego death" but you can certainly feel crushed and obliterated during a trip in a way that some people would contiinue to find disturbing afterwards. On the other hand, you may find it doesn't change anything, or you could come out of the trip feeling that you are enlightened and superior to everyone else... the effects are very individual.

In terms of personality, I find that my normal sense of self is very resilient, that it's actually quite hard to retain any feeling of "enlightenment" or whatever, however blinding and revelatory it appears during a trip. I think part of the tripping process is letting go of the crazy beliefs that crop up during a trip, and accepting that real life is just the same as you left it.

As for creativity, I feel more receptive to art in general from tripping. I feel more open to questioning my own beliefs, because things happen during my trips that strongly conflict with my normal opinions (for example I would consider myself an athiest, but give me 20g Atlantis and God seems very real).

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I started using pychadelics at 17 to treat anxiety, bipolar and Post traumatic stress.




Hmmm. A strong dose of sclerotia makes me anxious, then manic - i.e euphoric, seriously delusional, with a compulsive desire to write huge amounts of notes in my trip journal. It's fun, but I'm not sure what happens if you are already bipolar. With all the talk of ego death, people sometimes forget to mention that high doses are in many ways a kind of temporary psychosis. Still, if you've tried DMT, LSD and shrooms, you should already have a good idea how psychedelics affect you.:peace:


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Re: Bought 50g Atlantis Truffles. First Heroic Dose, with questions. [Re: Aldebaran]
    #13669857 - 12/22/10 10:07 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I find intention can be everything with some trips. I usually aim for level 4/5 and almost always do it alone. I haven't dosed in almost a year but still have strong residual feelings from my last 2 experiences.

If you wish to learn/see/feel something I recommend strongly closing your eyes from the moment you take them to the onset of CEV. As this occurs tell the mushroom/stones what you would like, also let them know you give them free reign over your mind and that they are very much welcome in your head. I sometimes do this out loud in a chant or mantra or just repeat key words/emotions in my head for a few minutes.

This will by no means ensure you get what you ask for but it definitely has a repeatable effect on me. Try it out and let us know.
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Re: Bought 50g Atlantis Truffles. First Heroic Dose, with questions. [Re: egodeathflux]
    #13670415 - 12/22/10 12:23 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

You can do 30g aswell man, if you feel secure.

However these truffles makes you think ALOT, nothing like normal magic mushrooms, these hits your brains hard.

Last time i tripped i seriously had troubles when i was thinking, its hard to explain but its like you want to do something forbidden. You kind of drag yourself to things you dont want to do at all. For me it was suicide, last thing i want to do "IN REAL LIFE" is suicide, but the last time i tripped on truffles i just kept thinking about taking my life and how it was a temptation for me there and then.

Luckily i "only" took 20g so i didnt lose full controll over myself but i imagine that it could have ended bad in just that trip if i went for 30g+.

Overall it wasnt really a bad trip because i was enjoying myself and had a great time and those thoughts didnt seem so wrong there and then. But before the trip i didnt really feel secure about the setting even tho i was alone. Risky but couldnt manage to keep my hands away from these crazy truffles.


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