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InvisibleBigBlackNinja
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Shiitake Substrate
    #1366671 - 03/11/03 05:08 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

have anyone grown shiitakes on anything other then logs? what would you guys recommend, i have oak chips and many other things, where would i find some saw dust? im not sure what all to put in the substrate. what recipes have you used that worked well?


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: BigBlackNinja]
    #1367159 - 03/11/03 08:16 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

you can cultivate them on sawdust blocks.
use 4 parts or so of hardwood sawdust to one part of your choice grain meal/flower (bran or riceflour work well). soak sawdust to capacity, drain, mix with bran/etc, bag and sterilize.


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: canid]
    #1367185 - 03/11/03 08:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You can also use hardwood fuel pellets (used in wood burning stoves and available at Home Depot) that can be used instead of sawdust. You add hot water to the pellets and they will decompress into sawdust.


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: mohican]
    #1367976 - 03/12/03 05:45 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

and from then you *could* pour a 10:1 h20:h202 solution on them, making them VERY difficult to contaminate.


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: mohican]
    #1368140 - 03/12/03 07:14 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Mohican and Raadt, thanks for the info! I was having trouble trying to find hardwood sawdust around my area. Luckily, there's a Home Depot about 5 minutes away. :grin: I'll have to stop in this week and check it out!
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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: Bruiser]
    #1368541 - 03/12/03 09:39 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

how could make bags, ive only made jars. and could i just use grain meal/flower and small oak chips. but im not sure how to do bags, can you send me a link or quickly describe how to do it.


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: BigBlackNinja]
    #1368574 - 03/12/03 09:52 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Use Concretefeet's substrate recipe and follow this tek for making your bags. It was the easiest tek I could find with pics to explaing how to do the bags. Just change the staw and dung to sawdust and bran.
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7983
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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: Bruiser]
    #1368626 - 03/12/03 10:10 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

thanks man


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: BigBlackNinja]
    #1369941 - 03/12/03 05:12 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

In Mexico people are growing Shiitake on coffee waste products....


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: BigBlackNinja]
    #1370320 - 03/12/03 06:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

if you know a construction worker tell him to put a bag on the back of his midor saw, that will collect saw dust for ya, or just walk up on any construction sight, im 100% possitive the guys will allow you to sweep up some saw dust, both of you win.


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: Psychoslut]
    #1371006 - 03/12/03 11:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

thats gonna be pine. shitakes need hard wood.

gordon: i'd like to hear more bout this coffee waste product if you know any more about it.


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: dragonfly]
    #1372642 - 03/13/03 12:38 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

How do you get shitake spores?


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: Birdman]
    #1373749 - 03/13/03 07:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: Hongosmeester]
    #1378365 - 03/15/03 02:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

You can buy a tray of shiitakes and start mycelium by tissue cloning the inner fleshy part of the head


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: jarhead]
    #1378602 - 03/15/03 04:37 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

i dont' know anything about tissue cloning, ill check the FAQs


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: dragonfly]
    #1379815 - 03/16/03 05:28 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

thats gonna be pine. shitakes need hard wood.

gordon: i'd like to hear more bout this coffee waste product if you know any more about it.




The hulls from coffee beans are fiborus and absorb loads of water, theres a marginal nutrition value....it works from what I've read, but for an american it could be a little expensive because of material availability

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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1384427 - 03/17/03 02:51 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

coffeehulls are sold now in europe where no coffee is grown either ,they are sold for covering paths in a garden ,like mulching with woodchiops ,so might be the case also in usa


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: jarhead]
    #1419417 - 03/31/03 08:06 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'm growing some shitake in a pint jar of wheat grain and bits of 'sicamore' (bad spelling) it seems to be growing ok, and the mycelium has actually grown onto the wood. Don't know if it'll fruit or not, just an experiment. I would have used sawdust, but i can't find any nearby, and I had these hard wood trees around my place so I thought i'd give it a try.


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: BigBlackNinja]
    #1419422 - 03/31/03 08:19 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Have you started yet?As i saw you said you have oak chips?surely these are better for shiitake than other saw dusts?I would try mixing the oak chips with
bran and not worrie about any other additves.Oak is what there normally grown on so use it if you got it.Try 20% bran to 80% oak chips in bags.I bet it would
work fine.
Good luck however you choose to go :-)

p.s some one pick this up if im wrong lol :tongue: but i would use the oak.


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Re: Shiitake Substrate [Re: Paid]
    #1423629 - 04/02/03 05:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I read some where, awhile back that any wood will work. But the thing is to use oat meal to stick it togther and form it into logs. The results can be as good as using hard woods. Im not sure about this and has any one else read this too?


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