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40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism
#13660927 - 12/20/10 01:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Down from 47 percent in 1999 so I guess that's a start. Discuss.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/20/40-of-americans-still-bel_n_799078.html

A new Gallup poll, released Dec. 17, reveals that 40 percent of Americans still believe that humans were created by God within the last 10,000 years. This number is slightly down from a previous high of 47 percent in 1993 and 1999.
Another 38 percent of respondents believe that humans have evolved from more basic organisms but with God playing a role in the process.
A mere 16 percent of respondents subscribed to the belief of "secular evolution": that humans have evolved with no divine guidance. However, this number has nearly doubled from nine percent of respondents in a poll from 1982.
The poll also revealed that beliefs in creationism and evolution are strongly related to levels of education attained. When results are narrowed to those with college degrees, only 37 percent of respondents maintain beliefs in creationism. Meanwhile, the belief in evolution without the aid of God rises to 21 percent.
With regards to political affiliation, a majority of Republicans (52 percent) subscribe to creationist beliefs. This is compared to only 34 percent among Democrats and Independents.
Views on human origins vary based on church attendance. Of those who attend church on a weekly basis, 60 percent believe in creationism while a mere 2 percent subscribe to "secular evolution". These numbers are flipped among those who rarely or never attend religious services. In this group, only 24 percent believe in creationism while 39 percent believe in evolution without divine guidance. This represents the only subset of data reported where "secular evolution" beats out creationism.
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: Frost]
#13660959 - 12/20/10 01:59 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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We were created. Call it the universe, call it God, call it Fungal-one's cock cheese, but we were created by some mechanism. What I like to ask people who believe in the 7 day story from the bible is "what do you think about science?' Most people will say science is okay until it threatens their God. I have to say that your God threatened science first, or atleast your pastor and beliefs did.
Anybody remember when they put the atomic clock on the space shuttle to test Einstein's ideas? Sure enough the shuttle came back with it's clock a few millionths of a second behind the one on earth. Absolute proof that time is relative to the observer. How can you not feel like a dumb ass imposing 7 revolutions of the earth to God?
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: Fungal-one]
#13660964 - 12/20/10 02:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't believe in any popular theory actually.
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: Nexius]
#13661000 - 12/20/10 02:07 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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a lot of the country still can't read at a 5th grade level, so I guess it isn't unbelievable
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: bbl337]
#13661004 - 12/20/10 02:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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bbl337 said:
a lot of the country still can't read at a 5th grade level, so I guess it isn't unbelievable
Actually reading is what got them in trouble to begin with. I'm just sayin'
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: Fungal-one]
#13661040 - 12/20/10 02:15 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can't think of it that way. Fairy tales are usually passed on before children can read.
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: F0SS1L]
#13661054 - 12/20/10 02:17 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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F0SS1L said: You can't think of it that way. Fairy tales are usually passed on before children can read.
Fair enough
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: Frost]
#13661066 - 12/20/10 02:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Frost said: The poll also revealed that beliefs in creationism and evolution are strongly related to levels of education attained. When results are narrowed to those with college degrees, only 37 percent of respondents maintain beliefs in creationism. Meanwhile, the belief in evolution without the aid of God rises to 21 percent.
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: Frost]
#13661245 - 12/20/10 03:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are a whole lot of grandmas and grandpas out there.
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: blewmeanie]
#13661258 - 12/20/10 03:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Depends on how you define it.
"Created by a Creator, possibly using evolution as a tool of His Creation" gets you well over 50%, I'm sure.
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: bait_]
#13661278 - 12/20/10 03:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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bait_ said:
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Frost said: The poll also revealed that beliefs in creationism and evolution are strongly related to levels of education attained. When results are narrowed to those with college degrees, only 37 percent of respondents maintain beliefs in creationism. Meanwhile, the belief in evolution without the aid of God rises to 21 percent.
pretty much explains it; "i dun need to go to none of your "Kollege Level Edjukation" to Know thAt God doesN't want All tHesE NiGGerZ breathing All the WHITE MANS AIR"
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: eniac]
#13661289 - 12/20/10 03:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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eniac said: Depends on how you define it.
"Created by a Creator, possibly using evolution as a tool of His Creation" gets you well over 50%, I'm sure.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: blewmeanie]
#13661324 - 12/20/10 03:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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blewmeanie said: http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm
So they're calling that "theistic evolution".
Jefferson called it Deism. He believed in a Creator, but not a Personal God. It's one of the reasons the Masons wouldn't have him as a member.
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: eniac]
#13661360 - 12/20/10 03:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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eniac said:
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blewmeanie said: http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm
So they're calling that "theistic evolution".
Jefferson called it Deism. He believed in a Creator, but not a Personal God. It's one of the reasons the Masons wouldn't have him as a member.
and the plot thickens
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: Frost] 1
#13661367 - 12/20/10 03:31 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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"there you have it, we are all the offspring of a retarded fishfrog who fucked a monkey"
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: KillerPicklez]
#13661390 - 12/20/10 03:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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can someone do the math here and figure out based on polls and dates etc how long it'll take till 100% of the population are essentially athiests?
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: HeadTripVertigo] 1
#13661399 - 12/20/10 03:39 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Atheism is effectively a religion, you assert your worldview based on belief but no evidence. (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. You can't prove there's no god.)
Agnosticism is where it's at, logically.
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Re: 40 Percent Of Americans Still Believe In Creationism [Re: eniac]
#13662345 - 12/20/10 07:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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One more time.
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