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OfflineSHR00M0L0GIST
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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: MyCoShrOoM]
    #1365811 - 03/11/03 09:50 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Scotts 3 in 1 can be found and wal-mart, k-mart, lowes, home depot, etc.
Mix it 50/50 scotts/verm.

By the way. Glass caserole dishes wont work unless the are solid black glass. You don't want to use a translucent container for casing. Otherwise pins will form on the sides of the casing and cause a bunch of complications.

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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1365821 - 03/11/03 09:54 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

My friend agrees that WBS is an excellent substrate, but what is the point of diluting it with BRF and verm? Why not use straight birdseed?


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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: dog]
    #1365911 - 03/11/03 10:23 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

that's what i was thinking the whole time.

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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: debianlinux]
    #1365944 - 03/11/03 10:35 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

kramer just uses wbs/verm at a rate of 2/1 .he is an idiot and gets good results.like i said it's like kung fu colonization. and for spawn..it just pops into a thousand individual pieces.go forth and harvest abundance :laugh:



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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: dog]
    #1365949 - 03/11/03 10:36 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

The structure.
If you have pure birdseed in cake form(that you can?t shake) then it will need longer to colonize than if you add some vermiculite and BRF.

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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: dog]
    #1365957 - 03/11/03 10:39 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

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My friend agrees that WBS is an excellent substrate, but what is the point of diluting it with BRF and verm? Why not use straight birdseed?




The PF-Birdseed tek is much easier to do than straight birdseed. You are talking about using bulk substrates. I'm trying to keep is simple for newbies to impliment birdseed into their cultivation.

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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: Anno]
    #1365961 - 03/11/03 10:40 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

i'm confused. i've never had a problem shaking straight wbs no matter how caked it gets.

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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1365964 - 03/11/03 10:41 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Thx for the reply Anno! You are exactly right.

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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1365970 - 03/11/03 10:43 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

This is a similar substrate you described, ecuador strain:


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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: Anno]
    #1365979 - 03/11/03 10:47 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

All I can say is... WOW!!! Good Job! Thanks for the feedback Anno.

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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: Anno]
    #1366000 - 03/11/03 10:57 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

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This is a similar substrate you described, ecuador strain:





Beautiful, Anno!


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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: Anno]
    #1366013 - 03/11/03 11:05 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

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This is a similar substrate you described, ecuador strain:




anno, may i ask where you got those cool looking racks?


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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1366023 - 03/11/03 11:08 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Short of casing (for new cultivators), how well do they hold together as cakes? Have you tried this? IMHO, cakes are easier for first grows (less chance of contamination, etc.). Thank you for posting this :grin:. Even if it has been around for a while, I've never seen it. 


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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #1366034 - 03/11/03 11:12 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

They hold together very well.

>anno, may i ask where you got those cool looking racks?

This is ANTONIUS rack from IKEA.

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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #1366036 - 03/11/03 11:13 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

They actually hold together pretty well as cakes. You can either case or fruit right off the cakes.

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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1366308 - 03/11/03 12:55 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Damn, Im gonna have to try this for my next grow. All I need to do is buy the birdseed :smile:

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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: moosehead]
    #1366335 - 03/11/03 01:02 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Good luck to ya moosehead! I hope it works out for you. Keep me posted on your progress. If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or pm me.

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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1366454 - 03/11/03 01:38 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

My friend's cheap ass really needs to buy a damn PC. Period. He can't wait to try WBS :smile:


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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1366469 - 03/11/03 01:44 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Yes he does. A pressure cooker is a must when using birdseed. Though I have heard of people sucessfully boiling it. I think they soak the seed in water overnight to start germination of any bacteria/mold that may be present. Then I'm pretty sure you just boil the birdseed till it swells up. Strain, let cool, then use. I'm not sure how accurate that is but its just to give you an idea.

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Re: PF-Birdseed Tek! [Re: SHR00M0L0GIST]
    #1366540 - 03/11/03 02:13 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

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Yes he does.  A pressure cooker is a must when using birdseed. Though I have heard of people sucessfully boiling it.  I think they soak the seed in water overnight to start germination of any bacteria/mold that may be present.  Then I'm pretty sure you just boil the birdseed till it swells up.  Strain, let cool, then use.  I'm not sure how accurate that is but its just to give you an idea.




Thanks for taking the time to post all that, man. It really sucks not having the search feature!

I had heard that before, but my friend is getting to the point where he spends so much time and energy trying to get around not having a $40 PC that its getting plain stupid. I mean, there's nothing left to prove, right? It can be done, just not very well or very fast; my friend is spending hours on what should take less than an hour, time actually worked, to complete, AND his contam rates are higher than average, IMO. Losing a crop is losing your money, even if you grow simply for research or to provide yourself with some traditional, natural education and entertainment. First, there is the cost of all the supplies. Then there is the time you have wasted; time is money, not to be cliche.

Anyone else have a tendency to ramble on when you are high on some legally obtained and smoked, with my medical use permit, medicinal nugs?

:wink:


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