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OfflineMurex
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Donnie Darko?
    #1363193 - 03/10/03 02:49 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I just watched it and I am confused about the movie........I think. It either really sucked, or I didn't get it. Could someone help me?

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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Murex]
    #1363203 - 03/10/03 02:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I didn't like the ending, it ruined the movie.


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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1363206 - 03/10/03 02:53 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

What the fuck is this movie about???


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What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Murex]
    #1363245 - 03/10/03 03:05 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

some crazy kid and time travel.

according to my girlfriend.. i havent seen it, myself.


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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Murex]
    #1363277 - 03/10/03 03:22 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i think that movie is really amazing. Its just really really confusing. its about the creation of a tangeant universe and him having to close it before the world ends and stuff. You gotta watch it a few times to start to understand it. Plus reading Roberta Sparrow's Time travel book at www.donniedarko.com explains things a lot. The movie is really well done its just hard to get at first cause its a real thinker. It's not your normal movie...


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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: ]
    #1363278 - 03/10/03 03:23 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

After watching it straight, watching it baked, and watching it dexed out I have determined that is a movie about accepting your faith.


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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Help on the Way]
    #1363288 - 03/10/03 03:27 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

maybe thats not the right URL cause i cant get it to work right now


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"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter


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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: boredboy]
    #1363294 - 03/10/03 03:28 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I don't think I'll watch it again, so could someone explain what I didn't get?


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What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Murex]
    #1363353 - 03/10/03 03:44 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

.


Edited by TheHateCamel (12/07/07 08:03 PM)


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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Murex]
    #1363444 - 03/10/03 04:18 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i thought it was an awesome movie


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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: oDin]
    #1363457 - 03/10/03 04:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Okay, I understand what you said, but what's with the Frank guy? And how does Donnie see what he sees? Some of this movie is pointless imo, and shouldn't have been in the movie.


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What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Murex]
    #1363477 - 03/10/03 04:35 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I just didn't feel the story tied everything together right. It really didn't make sense, not just because I didn't understand it. He travelled back in time, some how (The way he did it was just confusing). And then it skips to a life without him, well where did he go? I don't think he died, he went somewhere.


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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Murex]
    #1363485 - 03/10/03 04:38 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

you DO realize that frank is his sister's BF, right? in fact, you see his car and hear his car a few times throughout the movie. she mentions him a few times too. i think from the first "wake up" he has a pseudo-dream vision where he sees his future. he chooses to die to save his future girlfriend. i've seen it twice so far. the direction is superb, no doubt.


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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1363486 - 03/10/03 04:38 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Don't get me wrong, it was a good movie. But a lot of stuff wasn't explained good enough. Of course it makes you have to think. But in order to make sense of it you practically have to remake a whole new movie within your imagination. I give up, I can't explain what I mean. For example. at the end when he got out of the car after that chick died. How the hell did he time travel, and where did he go?


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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1363488 - 03/10/03 04:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

He didn't have to be anyone special at all- anyone who dies is leaving a life they could have lived. So this mivie is pointless.


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What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Murex]
    #1363564 - 03/10/03 05:18 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Heres an explanation of the movie I got from a thread I started on a philosophy forum a while back about this movie...

UNLESS YOU WANT TO SPOIL THE MOVIE FOR YOURSELF.. dont read this


This is a movie about several things; time travel, predestination vs. free will, and most of all, divine intervention.

Donnie Darko is a schizophrenic, sleepwalking teen who believes that he will die alone. There are at least two places where this is mentioned. First, when he and his dad are driving, they almost hit Roberta Sparrow, or Grandma Death, in the road. Donnie gets out to ask her if she is all right, and she whispers something to the effect of, "Every living creature on this planet dies alone," to Donnie. In addition, when Donnie is talking to his psychologist, he mentions that he is scared because he thinks he will die alone.

This movie is about divine intervention. A jet engine crashes right into Donnie's room, which kills him. God, however, creates a Tangent Universe, and uses Frank, along with Donnie's sleepwalking abilities to draw Donnie out of the room before the jet engine hits. Donnie learns from Frank that he only has around 28 days before time runs out. This signifies the duration of the Tangent Universe. We get a hint of this divine intervention at the end of the movie, when Donnie has just exited the cellar door as a hostage. As a knife is being held to his neck, he utters "deus ex machina" which means "an unexpected character [usually divine in nature] who is suddenly introduced into a work of fiction to resolve a plot or extricate the protagonist from a difficult situation."

The Artifact is the jet engine and marks the beginning of the Tangent Universe.

Throughout the Tangent Universe, all of the characters help Donnie towards the ultimate goal of him getting back to his room so that he can die and time can go on. These are the Manipulated Living. There is only one significant instance of the Manipulated Dead, that being Frank, the bunny.

Frank is Donnie's sister's boyfriend. He tells Donnie about his master plan and time travel and manipulates Donnie into committing various acts of mischief. First, Donnie floods the school by breaking the water main. At the scene of the crime, the words "They made me do it" are written on the ground. Incidentally, this handwriting also matches the handwriting on the whiteboard on Donnie's fridge during the Halloween party that says "Frank was here - went to get beer." We get a glimpse of Frank without his mask on in the movie theater scene. Frank says that he's sorry, which is a foreshadowing of his hurting of Gretchen, Donnie's girlfriend. Donnie asks him what happened to his eye, as it is bloody. This, of course, happens when Donnie shoots him in the eye, after he runs Gretchen over with his car, with the gun he found in his parents room when he follows the vector coming out of his chest.

The other characters help Donnie along his way. His english teacher mentions the phrase "Cellar Door" to him, which indicates where to go on the final night of his existence. His science teacher discusses time travel with him and gives him the pamphlet on time travel. Jim Cunningham, the motivational speaker, has his house burned down by Donnie, which leads authorities to undercover a kiddie porn ring. Kitty, his obnoxious health teacher, is distraught over this news, and can not attend the Sparkle Motion's appearance on Talent Search. Donnie's mom must accompany them, leaving the house free for the party and the rest of the events.

Roberta Sparrow is an interesting character. She writes her theory of time travel, which describes Donnie's condition precisely. She is always checking her mail, because she fears that in the future, that her pamphlet is not a work of fiction and that someone will need it and write her. Donnie does send her a letter, and on that fateful night, Roberta is checking her mail. Since she finally does receive mail, the car being driven by Frank avoids Roberta, since she's not on the road, and swerves to run over Gretchen, which prompts Donnie to shoot him, etc.

After all of these evens transpire, Donnie realizes what has happened. He returns to his bed and understands that the entire parallel universe was God's way of signaling to Donnie that he was not alone in the universe. The master plan showed him that someone was willing to create an alternate universe for him to prove that he wasn't alone. Donnie laughs as he realizes he has so much to look forward to after death, and accepts the fact that the jet engine will crash into his room.

The other characters have a vague recollection of the events of the Tangent Universe. Jim Cunningham cries because he knows he will be caught. Kitty is upset because her hero will be proven a pervert. Chirita Chen is smiling, remembering Donnie's comment to her that everything will be ok. Frank has just completed his plans for his Halloween costume, as we see sketches of the evil bunny suit. The world has been righted again.

Perhaps the only fault of this movie is that Richard Kelly made it too complicated for its own good. None of the above explanation could not have been created without the facilitation of the pamphlet about time travel. Even so, it is a good movie.




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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Crass]
    #1364054 - 03/10/03 08:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I suppose I got the jist of the movie, but it still sucked imo.


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What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Murex]
    #1365567 - 03/11/03 10:43 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Afterthought: What if the engine killed Donnie's mother instead of him? Think about it.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Murex]
    #1365614 - 03/11/03 10:58 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

What exactly happens with the airliner?


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Re: Donnie Darko? [Re: Che_Night_Soil]
    #1365925 - 03/11/03 12:28 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I thought the movie was excellent. I have only seen it once and while abit confusing it was not nearly as confusing as i though it may be from all the talk i have heard about it.

btw nice post Crass :smile:


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