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InvisibletrendalM
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If I said...
    #1361895 - 03/10/03 05:48 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

That we are no more than grains of sand in the ocean. Each one of us means exactly squat in The Big Picture. We are hopelessly unimportant. To believe that any god would even notice we exist, let alone care, may be the biggest ego-trip of all time.

What would you think?


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Re: If I said... [Re: trendal]
    #1361919 - 03/10/03 06:02 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I've never understood this "none of us equate to squat when it comes down to it" philosophy..

If none of us mean anything, then take all those grains of sand away, and there's no more beach.


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Re: If I said... [Re: trendal]
    #1361927 - 03/10/03 06:06 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say, "how can God not know that his own creations exist".

and that "we are God".



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Re: If I said... [Re: trendal]
    #1362088 - 03/10/03 07:34 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I would disagree. Even one of us can effect great change. Everything we do "matters". Everything leaves a mark.

About god not knowing or caring if we exist... It sounds like you are attributing human-like characteristics to God ie. Just as we are not aware of every thing we create and every circumstance we influence, perhaps god is the same.

Personally I don't buy it. I think there is something which is conscious of everything, and that something is what we call God. It is total awareness.


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Re: If I said... [Re: Revelation]
    #1362379 - 03/10/03 09:13 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I think you missed the question. What Trendal said was:

Quote:

That we are no more than grains of sand in the ocean. Each one of us means exactly squat in The Big Picture. We are hopelessly unimportant. To believe that any god would even notice we exist, let alone care, may be the biggest ego-trip of all time.




He's proposing that the idea that we are so utterly insignificant is actually a giant ego-trip.

I think it's a very interesting idea, Trendal. Perhaps us thinking that we have made contact with oblivion is actually us thinking we have made contact with GOD.

The Universe is absolutely everything and infininitely small.


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Re: If I said... [Re: trendal]
    #1362403 - 03/10/03 09:23 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say it depends on your point of view.


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Re: If I said... [Re: Viveka]
    #1362405 - 03/10/03 09:24 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

id like to think that we all have something to contribute, and we are all so much more than grains of sand

we are all gods, passing through time like thread through a needle, and we can all be happy and make each other happy

so what if we are "hopelessly unimportant" in some old crusty philosophers eyes?

we are just carbon and water niggas, no doubt; so what?
its like that and as matter of fact:

so motherfuckers i got 5 on a 20 sack

:laugh:


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Re: If I said... [Re: Lallafa]
    #1363129 - 03/10/03 02:18 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I got 5 on it...oh wait I got a big bag of grass right here. Why don't you just hit this tube with me? No need to waste 5 bucks on a dub.  :grin: 


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Re: If I said... [Re: Teragon]
    #1363247 - 03/10/03 03:06 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I am more than a grain of sand. I know this because I am not a grain of sand- I am a fragment of God. God would be incomplete without me. I am signifigant.


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Re: If I said... [Re: Murex]
    #1363751 - 03/10/03 06:15 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

It's all relative. To some, we are nothing more than a grain of sand, and for those with this belief I lend my hand in sorrow for the hope you have lost - for those who believe we are more, I'd say you were equally right as everything is relative & suprisingly uniquely.


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Re: If I said... [Re: nubious]
    #1363965 - 03/10/03 07:51 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

i am more than a grain of sand. I am part of earth which is way more than just sand. I CAN, change everything. I just have to figure out how.


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Re: If I said... [Re: Viveka]
    #1363989 - 03/10/03 07:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I think you got it.....

It is a very interesting idea....

I had a similar thought a while back related to the word gnostic. I had never thought of it outside of the usage when refering to the Gnostics.....

I then had the realization one day that a person could be a Gnostic/gnostic about any damn thing......and explained way too much......


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Re: If I said... [Re: upupup]
    #1364123 - 03/10/03 09:29 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Does it matter? We are here communicating, and Im having a pretty good time. We exist, the ego exists, if you enjoy life, great for you. If not, die...im sure you will return to the whole in a new form.


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Re: If I said... [Re: trendal]
    #1364139 - 03/10/03 09:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

All things are one. I am that grain of sand, just as I am all grains of sand, and just as I am also God.


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Re: If I said... [Re: silversoul7]
    #1364349 - 03/11/03 01:17 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I am human, I am that I am. A part of all things, all one. Just a speck in the spectrum, yet each cell is just as important as the next.


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Re: If I said... [Re: trendal]
    #1365899 - 03/11/03 12:16 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say stop looking at the big picture then. Somewhere, somehow, we all, in some instance, make a difference in one other person's life. Let that be enough.


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Re: If I said... [Re: trendal]
    #1365958 - 03/11/03 12:39 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'd think "Well no shit"


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Re: If I said... [Re: trendal]
    #1374631 - 03/14/03 05:16 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Further:

A single grain of sand may be insignificant in the whole, but zoom in on any grain and you can see it's individual beauty.


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Re: If I said... [Re: trendal]
    #1375304 - 03/14/03 09:14 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I am a very pissed off IN FLAMES fan because the MP3 I have been downloading for the past four hours (with about an hour left) stopped tranferring, and it is IMPOSSIBLE to find it ANYWHERE else, and it was a complete IN FLAMES concert (not only that, but Dark Tranquility was there, too).

Put things into perspective for ya?
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Re: If I said... [Re: trendal]
    #1375716 - 03/14/03 11:28 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'd say that we are the ocean as much as we are the sand. That each one of us is the big picture. That we are neither important nor unimportant. That we are god. That the ego is as much a part of us than the not-ego. And that time is our playground(wheter perceived as linear timeline or eternal moment).


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