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Mr Mycoman
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Mr Mycoman] 1
#13589656 - 12/06/10 09:59 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I saw that several people have left ratings after I made that post. Thanks everybody.....MM
I will keep that in mind Roadhog, so I can do the same for other people
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Mr Mycoman] 1
#13590149 - 12/06/10 12:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I smell fruit pics
Edited by Amphiprion (12/06/10 12:25 PM)
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Mr Mycoman
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Amphiprion] 1
#13590361 - 12/06/10 12:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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In 2-3 weeks I should have pics from this mycelium. Let's see, 5 days to colonize, another 4+- days to consolidate, then 10 days to pins. 19 days exactly, LOL. We'll see how close my guestimates are. I'll try to remember to come back to this post and calculate the time it actually takes, I bet I'm pretty close, within a day or so. If I don't, somebody should remind me......MM
Edited by Mr Mycoman (12/06/10 12:47 PM)
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Mr Mycoman] 1
#13590381 - 12/06/10 12:49 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mr Mycoman said: In 2-3 weeks I should have pics from this mycelium. Let's see, 5 days to colonize, another 4+- days to consolidate, then 10 days to pins. 19 days exactly, LOL. We'll see how close my guestimates are. I'll try to remember to come back to this post and calculate the time it actually takes, I bet I'm pretty close, within a day or so. If I don't, somebody should remind me......MM
ya, that sounds about right.
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: roaddog] 1
#13601901 - 12/08/10 02:06 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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It took a couple days to find the time to pasteurize my coir/poo so the myc is about 5 days old. You can see in this pic that there is plenty of white mixed in with this grain. It's not as consolidated as it will get but plenty to use as spawn My current coir recipe is:
1 brick coir 2 liters poo 1 liter worm castings 2 liters vermiculite 5 liters of water(approximate)
Mix and pasteurize, let cool and nock up with 4 jars of spawn. That is way more spawn than is needed but it colonizes in just 4-5 days so I use that much. 
I don't know if this is necessary but I cut a hole in the lids and cover with Tyvek and tape using 2" clear packing tape. I was goofing around in the shop awhile back and made this tape dispenser for the 2" packing tape. As it turns out, I use this stuff for everything these days. Once I had the dispenser I realized I couldn't live without it. Make one, you wont be sorry
I put the trays in my incubator and will check them in 4 days, where I will case two of them so I can experiment and see which way, poo cakes or casings, produces the most shrooms. I have some other experiments(same thing though) going on right now too.
The Wagner 705 steamer works but there's a lot of refilling and it struggles to keep it warm enough when it's cold outside so I hooked up a 3/8" tube to the steam tube on my pc. I put the other end in the bottom of the steamer, works like a charm! 
There you go, we're all set to grow some shrooms using 5 day old myc. I have more coir in the pasteurizer right now so I will be nocking up more trays tomorrow using this same myc. I predict it will take 19 days from today to see pins, let's see how close I am..........MM
Edited by Mr Mycoman (12/09/10 10:30 AM)
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Mr Mycoman] 1
#13601989 - 12/08/10 02:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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how exactly are you pasturizing your poo and coir mix. just mixing it to field capacity and tossing it in the steamer heating to temp?
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: oldmyco] 1
#13602858 - 12/08/10 05:25 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Right now I'm using the 55g drum that has shelves in it I tossed all the copper plumbing, it just caused problems In exchange for this Which is nothing other than the steam tube coming from the PC and placed inside the drum. I explained above the I am using my PC to generate the steam by attaching a rubber tube to the metal steam release tube on the PC. It's working great and no refilling, not yet anyway. I placed a remore thermometer probe into the substrate to moniter the temps. Once it reaches 150 I let it go ffor an hour. It takes several hours for it to reach 150 degrees when the barrel is only 155 degrees. I have two meat thermometers in the barrel to monitor the barrel temps
I use plastic bags that I got from Uline.com. They are a little bigger than the largest filter patch bags. I think they are 5" x 10" x 24", give or take. I have seven in there right now. Each bag holds 1 recipe of coir/poo.
Yes, I mix it to capacity first
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Mr Mycoman] 1
#13602887 - 12/08/10 05:32 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I also use a turkey roaster to do small batches. It works great! Too bad they don't come larger. ProfessorPinhead turned me on to this method. It has a thermostat so all you do is preheat, place subs inside and walk away. Three or four hours later you're done. It only cost $40 too, very affordable........MM
Oh yeah, I put an inch of water inside first
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Mr Mycoman] 1
#13602964 - 12/08/10 05:46 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey Mr. Myc......
I use 5 of them 
thats 20 spawn bags/day. only running them once.
4 bags/tub ...... Thats 5 tubs/day.
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I always wondered if a coffee pot would work for a casing or something
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Wirenut] 1
#13604373 - 12/08/10 10:46 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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1 cup of lime in your substrate? Really?
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: newshOne] 1
#13605826 - 12/09/10 08:59 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Newsh0ne, I only put it in there as a buffer, but it will work without it. I just recently started using coir instead of straight poo and I suspect it is slightly acidic(I don't know for sure) so since I have plenty of lime and it can't hurt, I go ahead and use it........MM
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Wirenut] 1
#13605836 - 12/09/10 09:02 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wirenut said: I always wondered if a coffee pot would work for a casing or something 
Do you mean to pasteurize it? In a coffee pot? Kinda small. I grew some in a coffee pot awhile back just because, but I didn't take pics, oh well, I guess it didn't happen then.........MM
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Mr Mycoman] 1
#13605841 - 12/09/10 09:04 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pinhead, you are a busy man! Thanks again.....MM
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Mr Mycoman] 1
#13605844 - 12/09/10 09:04 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Lime will slow down growth in substrates. Mushroom mycelium prefers a pH of around 5 for fastest growth. This is why we use liquid coffee in grains, and coffee grinds will also help bulk substrates. Most coir and manure based substrates are at or slightly above the optimum pH for growth, so lime is not used. RR
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Mr Mycoman] 1
#13605898 - 12/09/10 09:17 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks RR, I could have sworn I read something to the opposite of what you are saying, but I take your word over what I read on the internet. Thanks again........MM
My tubs have been colonizing in 4-5 days, but I don't credit that to the lime, instead, to the coir(I love that stuff!). I guess it can't be too bad for it, but I am going to stop and see if there is a visible difference
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Mr Mycoman] 1
#13606102 - 12/09/10 10:28 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok, I did some reading and apparently I mixed up casing ph with substrate ph. Casing and substrate ph should be 5.5-6, but since casing is more prone to contams, lime is added to raise it to 8 or above.
I am not sure why the casing is different than the sub, any info here would be appreciated. Does anybody know why they are treated differently?
Apparently, the lime may slow it down a little, but it's not going to hurt it at those levels that I had used. Like I said, my trays are colonizing very fast at about 4-5 days, I can't wait to see if they colonize even faster without the lime. Also, it's ok to use gypsum in substrates, just not lime.
It seems that the lime I put in my coir will resist contams very well. I haven't had any signs of contams in the 8 big trays that I have done so far with this recipe. I guess that if I do have any contam problems in the future I will just add the lme back in, since it isn't slowing my myc down I don't see a problem. Thanks for the heads up RR......MM
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Mr Mycoman] 1
#13606148 - 12/09/10 10:42 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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aint no way you'll get noticeable growth from spores in 3 days. g2g is another beast altogether, my bread n butter.
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Mr Mycoman] 1
#13606228 - 12/09/10 11:01 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mr Mycoman said: I also use a turkey roaster to do small batches. It works great! Too bad they don't come larger. ProfessorPinhead turned me on to this method. It has a thermostat so all you do is preheat, place subs inside and walk away. Three or four hours later you're done. It only cost $40 too, very affordable........MM
Oh yeah, I put an inch of water inside first
Im going to go out a get me one of these roasters. I have heard they do kick ass. Do you put your substrate, strait in the roaster, or do you load them in pillow cases?, how long do you pasteurize for, in the roaster. Are you setting the temp at 175? I may PM you on some more questions, after I get me one, If thats cool. I hate running my 55 gallon drum, in the cold winter, I actually dread it. I have to sike my self up, to do it, If the temps are below freezing. If I had to run 4 little batches, that would be better than 1 big batch outside.
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Re: Mycelium in 3-5 days, challenge [Re: Mr Mycoman] 1
#13608531 - 12/09/10 05:18 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mr Mycoman said:
I am not sure why the casing is different than the sub, any info here would be appreciated. Does anybody know why they are treated differently?
Peat can be 3.5-4pH.. You really want it at 8 because by the end of the first flush the acidic mycelium secretions will bring it down some, so what your shooting for is 7-7.5 by the end of the first flush for casings.. mycelium is tolerant of it whereas contams are not, and because your casing is uncolonized, its an open invitation..
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