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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Christianity, Catholocism, and the spirit world
    #13572756 - 12/02/10 11:27 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe some of you gurus can help me out here or point me in a certain direction.

I was raised catholic in a very strict catholic household. All of my other siblings (4 in total) are hardcore catholics. My older brother is even studying to be a minister / priest.

Back a few years ago, I started drifting away from the religion. The main reason was that my ideal of love everyone doesn't really seem to be practiced at all by anyone, especially with the persecution of gay people.

Anyways, I never really thought much about religion but the whole shamanistic traditions really intrigue me, and I was wondering if anyone here was from a similar background and if they had any links or materials for me to read up on.

Thanks :mushroom2:

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Re: Christianity, Catholocism, and the spirit world [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #13573024 - 12/02/10 12:23 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)
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Hey there. Although there are people here more knowledgeable on the subject than myself, I'd point you in the direction of Gnosticism if your looking to stay within the Christian tradition. http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlintro.html ; The Gospel of Thomas is a good place to start. As far a Shamanism goes, it is one of many traditions which utilized altered states. I've found that the lucid dream/astral projection paradigm is more useful for most people in the West. A good book for that is exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Dr. Stephen LaBerge.

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Re: Christianity, Catholocism, and the spirit world [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #13573165 - 12/02/10 12:53 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I enjoy Castenada's books as a good departure from the norm and into a more shamanic feel. Not to be taken literally, of course, but definitely meant to be taken seriously.

Carlos Castaneda Bibliography

  1. The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge - Carlos Castaneda
  2. Separate Reality - Carlos Castaneda
  3. Journey To Ixtlan - Carlos Castaneda
  4. Tales of Power - Carlos Castaneda
  5. The Second Ring of Power - Carlos Castaneda
  6. Eagle's Gift - Carlos Castaneda
  7. Fire from Within - Carlos Castaneda
  8. Power of Silence - Carlos Castaneda
  9. The Art of Dreaming - Carlos Castaneda
  10. The Active Side of Infinity - Carlos Castaneda
  11. The Wheel Of Time : The Shamans Of Mexico Their Thoughts About Life Death And The Universe - Carlos Castaneda
  12. The Witch's Dream : A Healer's Way of Knowledge - Carlos Castaneda


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Re: Christianity, Catholocism, and the spirit world [Re: Kickle]
    #13575229 - 12/02/10 09:40 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I agree Gnostic scriptures have some great stuff  very eye opening.

There are scriptures written by the apostles so in a sense they should be included in the Bible. Funny thing is the Gnostic scriptures can also tie in with Egyptian (Coptic), Greek and Hellenistic influences, as well as the esoteric Judaic.

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    #13576403 - 12/03/10 10:18 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks I appreciate it!

I remember learning a tiny bit about gnosticism in catholic school but if I remember they seemed to hate it :P haha
thanks for the pdf :mushroom2:

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Re: Christianity, Catholocism, and the spirit world [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #13579737 - 12/03/10 11:18 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I would point you in the direction of Gnosticism too, it opens a lot of doors. I got kicked out of catholic school in sixth grade =(, so I threw myself into skepticism.
Thanks for the PDF Too!


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Re: Christianity, Catholocism, and the spirit world [Re: Trufflicious]
    #13579938 - 12/04/10 12:34 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

a good question is:

Would you call Jesus for help?

depending on how you answer that will lead you to your next question.
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Re: Christianity, Catholocism, and the spirit world [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #13581217 - 12/04/10 11:12 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I recommend this book to everybody, but if your interest extends outside Christianity, Autobiography of a Yogi supplied me with more information than any book I've ever read about these subjects. Especially about the spirit world.


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