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NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic
    #13572522 - 12/02/10 12:13 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Found in a lake in california.



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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13572529 - 12/02/10 12:15 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: plasma]
    #13572538 - 12/02/10 12:17 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

say whhhhat.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: j0nnyb0y05]
    #13572558 - 12/02/10 12:23 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Craaazzzyyy!

I wonder if NASA has just found bacteria that uses Arsenic or if they actually found complex organisms like that in the picture.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: j0nnyb0y05]
    #13572559 - 12/02/10 12:23 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

LOL


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Blauhaus]
    #13572561 - 12/02/10 12:24 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: j0nnyb0y05]
    #13572563 - 12/02/10 12:25 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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...the possibility that the life forms, thought to be bacteria from the alkaline Mono Lake in California, are entirely unrelated to any other life on Earth.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/849183-nasa-to-announce-discovery-of-new-form-of-life#ixzz16yaZdTFQ




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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mellowparty]
    #13572571 - 12/02/10 12:28 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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...the possibility that the life forms, thought to be bacteria from the alkaline Mono Lake in California, are entirely unrelated to any other life on Earth.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/849183-nasa-to-announce-discovery-of-new-form-of-life#ixzz16yaZdTFQ







That site looks sketchy, let's see what NASA has to say.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mellowparty]
    #13572577 - 12/02/10 12:29 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

WHERE'S YOUR GOD NOW?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Salomon]
    #13572584 - 12/02/10 12:33 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

:awedance:!!!!! ive been saying for ages that i doubt life needs those specifically.  too. fucking. cool.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: bbl337]
    #13572592 - 12/02/10 12:36 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

i am actually bouncing around in excitement.  At 2 pm when they announce, I am def calling up my old bio professor and letting him know.  He's gonna pee himself :awepuss:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: bbl337]
    #13572596 - 12/02/10 12:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I'm pretty pumped.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: bbl337]
    #13572599 - 12/02/10 12:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

That looks like one bitching lizard. When can i buy one?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: collie man]
    #13572631 - 12/02/10 12:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Hmm.... I wonder if these Arsenic organisms also synthesize DMT?  :biggrin:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Blauhaus]
    #13572633 - 12/02/10 12:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: collie man]
    #13572643 - 12/02/10 12:55 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Uhoh, It looks like they found out about us....gotta go. :seeya:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: blewmeanie]
    #13572707 - 12/02/10 01:13 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: sheldogg5]
    #13572725 - 12/02/10 01:17 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Turns out it isn't really a new life form, as it is a new adaptation to standard earth life forms.
The bacteria can use arsenic instead of phosphorous to build its DNA, however it does thrive better in a phosphorous environment where it starts to replace the arsenic, with the standard phosphorus.

The interesting part comes from the fact that arsenic is widely believed to be poisonous to ALL life.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: sheldogg5]
    #13572728 - 12/02/10 01:18 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I always knew that the arsenic that my mom puts in my milk was good for me.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: bbl337]
    #13572931 - 12/02/10 02:02 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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:awedance:!!!!! ive been saying for ages that i doubt life needs those specifically.  too. fucking. cool.





This is rather exciting to me for the same reasons.

They need to hurry up and start this presser


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: LicHmicrO]
    #13572958 - 12/02/10 02:08 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Where can I watch this? The NASA tv site isnt loading for me.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Deity208]
    #13573074 - 12/02/10 02:33 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: LicHmicrO]
    #13573089 - 12/02/10 02:36 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: LicHmicrO]
    #13573097 - 12/02/10 02:38 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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ya because in the bible jesus totally says "all life forms must come from phosphorus!"

this doesn't prove, nor disprove anything about the existance of god :rollseyes:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: AntiEverything]
    #13573113 - 12/02/10 02:41 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

this is pretty exciting. arsenic based lifeforms? wow. and that lizard thing looks awesome. hmm wouldn't they be pretty poisonous to us then?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: AntiEverything]
    #13573118 - 12/02/10 02:42 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

If you believe in a supreme being that will condemn you to hell for sinning you need to get your head out of your ass

:facepalm:

You wanna know how to become god?

Become one of the economic elite.

Or become a biophysicist, or biochemist.



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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573138 - 12/02/10 02:45 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Crazy stuff- this discovery


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573145 - 12/02/10 02:47 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

he's got a point that still doesnt disprove anything. God and religion are not synonymous.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573150 - 12/02/10 02:48 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Dammit, I was all stoked that concurrent, separate evolution occured on earth somewhere along the line.

Still neat, but not nearly as interesting considerin the organism was lab manipulated


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Viruk]
    #13573154 - 12/02/10 02:50 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Found in a lake in california.






That's a nudibranch, from the ocean... not what they found. 

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...the possibility that the life forms, thought to be bacteria from the alkaline Mono Lake in California, are entirely unrelated to any other life on Earth.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/849183-nasa-to-announce-discovery-of-new-form-of-life#ixzz16yaZdTFQ







That site looks sketchy, let's see what NASA has to say.




http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/features/astrobiology_toxic_chemical.html

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Turns out it isn't really a new life form, as it is a new adaptation to standard earth life forms.
The bacteria can use arsenic instead of phosphorous to build its DNA, however it does thrive better in a phosphorous environment where it starts to replace the arsenic, with the standard phosphorus.

The interesting part comes from the fact that arsenic is widely believed to be poisonous to ALL life.




It completely substitutes arsenic for phosphorous in it's entire biological make up, not just the DNA. The thing that makes it significant is they found the gene that makes arsenic for phosphorous substitution possible. I'm not sure if I heard right, but I think they said they found it in a noncoding/dead portion of DNA, which opens up the possibility that life originally used arsenic rather than phosphorus as one of the main building blocks of life.

We always thought the necessities for life were carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur. This could potentially mean any of those could be substituted with other elements with similar chemical properties.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13573159 - 12/02/10 02:51 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Found in a lake in california.






That's a nudibranch, from the ocean... not what they found. 

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...the possibility that the life forms, thought to be bacteria from the alkaline Mono Lake in California, are entirely unrelated to any other life on Earth.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/849183-nasa-to-announce-discovery-of-new-form-of-life#ixzz16yaZdTFQ







That site looks sketchy, let's see what NASA has to say.




http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/features/astrobiology_toxic_chemical.html

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Turns out it isn't really a new life form, as it is a new adaptation to standard earth life forms.
The bacteria can use arsenic instead of phosphorous to build its DNA, however it does thrive better in a phosphorous environment where it starts to replace the arsenic, with the standard phosphorus.

The interesting part comes from the fact that arsenic is widely believed to be poisonous to ALL life.




It completely substitutes arsenic for phosphorous in it's entire biological make up, not just the DNA. The thing that makes it significant is they found the gene that makes arsenic for phosphorous substitution possible. I'm not sure if I heard right, but I think they said they found it in a noncoding/dead portion of DNA, which opens up the possibility that life originally used arsenic rather than phosphorus as one of the main building blocks of life.

We always thought the necessities for life were carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur. This could potentially mean any of those could be substituted with other elements with similar chemical properties.








I know lol, i just posted it cuz it looked cool.

Like a human would dip their hand in a pool of arsenic to grab a unknown creature :rolleyes:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573179 - 12/02/10 02:56 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I'd do it, as long as I didn't put my hands in my mouth afterwards :lol:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573180 - 12/02/10 02:57 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

haha


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573281 - 12/02/10 03:21 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

This is pretty sweet!  :thumbup:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nymphaea]
    #13573328 - 12/02/10 03:31 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I honestly don't think this is new news what-so-ever.

I think they're setting up for something bigger.

They magically have pulled alot of groundbreaking discoveries out of their ass the past few weeks, are they slowly breaking the news to something bigger?

I certainly think so.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573396 - 12/02/10 03:44 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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I honestly don't think this is new news what-so-ever.

I think they're setting up for something bigger.

They magically have pulled alot of groundbreaking discoveries out of their ass the past few weeks, are they slowly breaking the news to something bigger?

I certainly think so.



its called low funding

they are trying to stay relevant in publics eye.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #13573400 - 12/02/10 03:45 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

b0red5tiff, do you have any biology background?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #13573404 - 12/02/10 03:45 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Well they're not staying relevant in mine.




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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573424 - 12/02/10 03:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I had a feeling this would happen. Most of the people in the science community are like "dude holy fuck this is amazing and huge," where as other people are like "uhh... so what's the big fuckin deal?"

Can't win em all :shrug:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: LicHmicrO]
    #13573427 - 12/02/10 03:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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well, if you want to count gravity, sun centered solar system, round earth, age of the world/universe then its like

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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #13573462 - 12/02/10 03:54 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

im watching the nasa video again
someone just asked about aliens and the one representative deemed it as fiction
bahaha nasa probably won't be the source for news of intelligent extraterrestial life
and the chick just avoided the question and went on talking about the microbes
terrible way to redirect a viable question
when the report is about new discoveries that will impact search for et life


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573484 - 12/02/10 03:59 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Aliens and alien microbes are quite different. They're not saying the found something analgous to a human on another planet. They're not even saying they found something analgous to an ant on another planet.

They're saying that the way we understood life to work before may not be how it really is, and that means that it may be possible for there to be life on other planets which have different resources than Earth. That's all they're saying, nothing more, nothing less.

Did you guys really think this was gonna be a "yo nigga, we got a message from ET and he said he wants to blaze an L then watch South Park and eat Doritos with us" type announcement?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13573498 - 12/02/10 04:01 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

They could have said it that way instead of pulling the usual avoidance card.


I really think there is a reason NASA has funding pulled, and did a long time ago.

1) Religion
2) Ground breaking discovery that will shatter reality
3) ????
4) They're just fags


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13573516 - 12/02/10 04:04 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

This is pretty much one of if not the most badass thing nasa has yet to announce. I mean, people have speculated that life might be able to evolve outside the whole "SPONCH" paradigm, but to actually have that verified is fucking awesome.

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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573520 - 12/02/10 04:05 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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They could have said it that way instead of pulling the usual avoidance card.


I really think there is a reason NASA has funding pulled, and did a long time ago.

1) Religion
2) Ground breaking discovery that will shatter reality
3) ????
4) They're just fags






I'd say welfare is far more worthless, i mean shit look at how it's abused (and it's about surivial of the fittest; always has been... not keeping deevolved monkey on the planet)

at least NASA can bring us some technological advancements, welfare just slows down technological advancements

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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573530 - 12/02/10 04:06 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Uh wut? They said exactly that dude. Did you watch the thing? As soon as they were done with the science talk and opened up the the floor for questions they were flooded with questions from people who didn't understand it, misconstrued their words, and blew things way out of proportion.

"Yeah so we found these bacteria that can substitute arsenic for phosphorous in their biological make up, and that may change our concept of the necessities for life as we know it. Any questions?"

"YEAH I GOTS ONE! SO IF THEM BACTERIAS CAN DO THAT STUFF WITH ARSENIC, UR SAYIN U FOUND ALIENS, RAIT? IS THAT WUT UR SAYIN?"


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13573563 - 12/02/10 04:14 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I'm just saying I think they're slowly leaking information to us, which makes total sense and I can understand why but still.

I know the conference wasn't about that, nor was it implying that.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573592 - 12/02/10 04:19 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Who are "they" ?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573597 - 12/02/10 04:19 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Nexius said:
I'm just saying I think they're slowly leaking information to us, which makes total sense and I can understand why but still.

I know the conference wasn't about that, nor was it implying that.




all techonology and "new" discoveries are at least 10 years behiend what is actuially up to date.

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    #13573606 - 12/02/10 04:23 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Gumby said:
b0red5tiff, do you have any biology background?



yes, actually i come from a long line of biologically conceived life forms.


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    #13573616 - 12/02/10 04:24 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Salomon said:
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Nexius said:
I'm just saying I think they're slowly leaking information to us, which makes total sense and I can understand why but still.

I know the conference wasn't about that, nor was it implying that.




all techonology and "new" discoveries are at least 10 years behiend what is actuially up to date.

:tinfoil:





At least.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Salomon]
    #13573623 - 12/02/10 04:25 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

some say 50 years


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    #13573627 - 12/02/10 04:26 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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b0red5tiff said:
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Gumby said:
b0red5tiff, do you have any biology background?



yes, actually i come from a long line of biologically conceived life forms.




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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573653 - 12/02/10 04:31 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

i'm not god fearing or anything

just dont get your hopes up this is the nail in the coffin on religion b/c its totally not.


edit: wasnt in response to gumby. my FAVORITE mod. pris is second. the others would probably be higher but i never see them post. oh i think newbie is a good guy and shit, but i also think his posting style changed after he became a mod. i think the newfound authority kind of got to his head.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: AntiEverything]
    #13573661 - 12/02/10 04:32 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Not saying that, i'm saying religion-fags hold science back


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: AntiEverything]
    #13573666 - 12/02/10 04:34 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Nah I wasn't saying that at all, it's just awesome from a biologist's perspective and it gave me a nerd boner.

I don't give a fuck what implications it has in the science vs. religion debate, that's a futile debate anyway.


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    #13573668 - 12/02/10 04:34 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Aliens and alien microbes are quite different. They're not saying the found something analgous to a human on another planet. They're not even saying they found something analgous to an ant on another planet.

They're saying that the way we understood life to work before may not be how it really is, and that means that it may be possible for there to be life on other planets which have different resources than Earth. That's all they're saying, nothing more, nothing less.

Did you guys really think this was gonna be a "yo nigga, we got a message from ET and he said he wants to blaze an L then watch South Park and eat Doritos with us" type announcement?







i fuckin lolled



it's too true. people hear one thing about a possible new life form then HOLY SHIT THEY'RE ABOUT TO TELL US ALIENS ARE HERE


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: blazenn]
    #13573679 - 12/02/10 04:36 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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blazenn said:
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Gumby said:
Aliens and alien microbes are quite different. They're not saying the found something analgous to a human on another planet. They're not even saying they found something analgous to an ant on another planet.

They're saying that the way we understood life to work before may not be how it really is, and that means that it may be possible for there to be life on other planets which have different resources than Earth. That's all they're saying, nothing more, nothing less.

Did you guys really think this was gonna be a "yo nigga, we got a message from ET and he said he wants to blaze an L then watch South Park and eat Doritos with us" type announcement?







i fuckin lolled



it's too true. people hear one thing about a possible new life form then HOLY SHIT THEY'RE ABOUT TO TELL US ALIENS ARE HERE



they've been here all along, man:drag:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Salomon]
    #13573682 - 12/02/10 04:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

unless you're talking about you and i and every other form of life on this planet, i have no idea what you're talking about.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: blazenn]
    #13573689 - 12/02/10 04:38 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Just as today proved blazenn; we haven't discovered nearly everything in existence


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    #13573713 - 12/02/10 04:43 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Who are "they" ?



They are the Gammaproteobacteria. I think this shit is pretty cool. Arsenic instead of phosphorous in the phosphoarsenodiester backbone :eek:
If anyone can't appreciate it its because he/she is a just another worthless junky that's wasting the oxygen supply of the smart people :kingcrankey:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573729 - 12/02/10 04:46 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

i didnt say anything about there not being other undiscovered forms of life outside of our planet..... in fact i'm a firm believer that there's life just as intelligent as us looking out on the universe just as we are.



but it's kinda funny when people hear news about one discovery that has absolutely nothing to do with intelligent life venturing to our planet and taking that news as "OMG THERE GUNNA DISCLOSE ALIEN LIFE ON EARTH NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: blazenn]
    #13573750 - 12/02/10 04:50 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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but it's kinda funny when people hear news about one discovery that has absolutely nothing to do with intelligent life venturing to our planet and taking that news as "OMG THERE GUNNA DISCLOSE ALIEN LIFE ON EARTH NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"




I don't know about funny... Retarded was more the word I had in mind.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: blazenn]
    #13573863 - 12/02/10 05:12 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

what this means is that it expands the qualifications for life to form. It is more likely that alien planets will support life.

When you combine that with this recent finding suggesting that there are three times as many stars in the universe as previously thought, if I were a bookie id say the odds of finding ET life just went up.

http://earthsky.org/space/three-times-as-many-stars-and-many-more-planets-possible


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
    #13573878 - 12/02/10 05:16 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

i wouldn't go so far as to say the odds of FINDING extra terrestrial life went up, it certainly could mean that the requirements for life to form aren't as strict as we thought.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
    #13573899 - 12/02/10 05:22 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

looser requirements for life + more stars (more planets) = better chance of finding planets with life on them.


its math!


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: blazenn]
    #13573943 - 12/02/10 05:32 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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blazenn said:
i wouldn't go so far as to say the odds of FINDING extra terrestrial life went up, it certainly could mean that the requirements for life to form aren't as strict as we thought.





The odds have been great anyway, this didn't change that.

If you're here wtf makes you think that other life forms don't exist? heh



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Proof of extra dimensions possible next year: CERN

(Reuters) - Scientists at the CERN research center say their "Big Bang" project is going beyond all expectations and the first proof of the existence of dimensions beyond the known four could emerge next year.

In surveys of results of nearly 8 months of experiments in their Large Hadron Collider (LHC), they also say they may be able to determine by the end of 2011 whether the mystery Higgs particle, or boson, exists.

Guido Tonelli, spokesman for one of the CERN specialist teams monitoring operations in the vast, subterranean LHC, said probing for extra dimensions -- besides length, breadth, height and time -- would become easier as the energy of the proton collisions in it is increased in 2011.

Other CERN physicists say the success so far of the world's largest scientific project suggests that some great enigmas of the universe they have in their sights could be at least partly resolved much sooner than they thought.

"One year ago, it would have been impossible for us to guess that the machine and the experiments could achieve so much so quickly," said Fabiola Gionotti, spokeswoman for another research team in the surveys, issued on CERN's website (www.cern.org).

RESULTS ALL THE TIME

"We are producing new results all the time," she added. The existence or otherwise of the Higgs, never yet spotted but believed to provide the glue giving mass to matter, should be settled one way or another by the end of next year.

The $10 billion LHC, whose operation and monitoring involves scientists and research centers in 34 countries, went into full operation on March 31, smashing protons together at near the speed of light with increasing energy.

These collisions have been creating millions of simulations of the Big Bang which 13.7 billion years ago brought into existence the primordial universe from which stars, planets and life on earth -- and perhaps elsewhere -- eventually emerged.

The LHC operations have been so trouble-free that at the start of this month CERN scientists were able to switch to colliding lead ions, creating temperatures a million times hotter than at the heart of the Sun.

The ion collisions, creating an amalgam dubbed a quark-gluon plasma, give the research teams another way of looking at what happened within a nano-second of the Big Bang and at the first matter produced by that mighty explosion.

CERN scientists say they have already taken research with ions further than those with gold at the long-established Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider at the U.S. Brookhaven National Laboratory on Long Island.

These experiments have shown the power of the link-up of 140 computing centers around the world known as the Grid which processes the vast amounts of information that ion collisions produce.

On December 6, the LHC will be shut down for servicing and to avoid draining electricity in the depths of winter from the energy networks of France and Switzerland along whose border CERN lies.

It will start up again in February, then run at full blast, with protons, until the end of the year, when it will close down again until 2013 while engineers prepare it for running at double the energy to the end of the decade and beyond.




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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13574053 - 12/02/10 05:57 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Nexius said:
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blazenn said:
i wouldn't go so far as to say the odds of FINDING extra terrestrial life went up, it certainly could mean that the requirements for life to form aren't as strict as we thought.





The odds have been great anyway, this didn't change that.

If you're here wtf makes you think that other life forms don't exist? heh



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Proof of extra dimensions possible next year: CERN

(Reuters) - Scientists at the CERN research center say their "Big Bang" project is going beyond all expectations and the first proof of the existence of dimensions beyond the known four could emerge next year.

In surveys of results of nearly 8 months of experiments in their Large Hadron Collider (LHC), they also say they may be able to determine by the end of 2011 whether the mystery Higgs particle, or boson, exists.

Guido Tonelli, spokesman for one of the CERN specialist teams monitoring operations in the vast, subterranean LHC, said probing for extra dimensions -- besides length, breadth, height and time -- would become easier as the energy of the proton collisions in it is increased in 2011.

Other CERN physicists say the success so far of the world's largest scientific project suggests that some great enigmas of the universe they have in their sights could be at least partly resolved much sooner than they thought.

"One year ago, it would have been impossible for us to guess that the machine and the experiments could achieve so much so quickly," said Fabiola Gionotti, spokeswoman for another research team in the surveys, issued on CERN's website (www.cern.org).

RESULTS ALL THE TIME

"We are producing new results all the time," she added. The existence or otherwise of the Higgs, never yet spotted but believed to provide the glue giving mass to matter, should be settled one way or another by the end of next year.

The $10 billion LHC, whose operation and monitoring involves scientists and research centers in 34 countries, went into full operation on March 31, smashing protons together at near the speed of light with increasing energy.

These collisions have been creating millions of simulations of the Big Bang which 13.7 billion years ago brought into existence the primordial universe from which stars, planets and life on earth -- and perhaps elsewhere -- eventually emerged.

The LHC operations have been so trouble-free that at the start of this month CERN scientists were able to switch to colliding lead ions, creating temperatures a million times hotter than at the heart of the Sun.

The ion collisions, creating an amalgam dubbed a quark-gluon plasma, give the research teams another way of looking at what happened within a nano-second of the Big Bang and at the first matter produced by that mighty explosion.

CERN scientists say they have already taken research with ions further than those with gold at the long-established Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider at the U.S. Brookhaven National Laboratory on Long Island.

These experiments have shown the power of the link-up of 140 computing centers around the world known as the Grid which processes the vast amounts of information that ion collisions produce.

On December 6, the LHC will be shut down for servicing and to avoid draining electricity in the depths of winter from the energy networks of France and Switzerland along whose border CERN lies.

It will start up again in February, then run at full blast, with protons, until the end of the year, when it will close down again until 2013 while engineers prepare it for running at double the energy to the end of the decade and beyond.







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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: DeadHearts]
    #13574099 - 12/02/10 06:05 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

spontaneous DNA  :bubbles:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574115 - 12/02/10 06:08 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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spontaneous DNA  :bubbles:




I think its a hoax :shrug:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13574120 - 12/02/10 06:09 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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I honestly don't think this is new news what-so-ever.

I think they're setting up for something bigger.

They magically have pulled alot of groundbreaking discoveries out of their ass the past few weeks, are they slowly breaking the news to something bigger?

I certainly think so.



This is what i have been wondering myself.


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    #13574127 - 12/02/10 06:10 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:
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spontaneous DNA  :bubbles:




I think its a hoax :shrug:




Just like gravity, AMIRITE?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #13574138 - 12/02/10 06:11 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

lol everyone wanted aliens.





my question is this:



does this mean that life is more likely to exist out "there" because the requirements to life as we knew it, are completely horseshit and not the requirements we thought they were?

hasn't it been speculated before that if we ever encountered alien life we wouldnt be able to understand them?

i am le confused.

what does this discovery mean?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #13574161 - 12/02/10 06:14 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Epilson Lyrae said:
Quote:

Nexius said:
I honestly don't think this is new news what-so-ever.

I think they're setting up for something bigger.

They magically have pulled alot of groundbreaking discoveries out of their ass the past few weeks, are they slowly breaking the news to something bigger?

I certainly think so.



This is what i have been wondering myself.




Yes indeed. Or should I say maybe or maybe not LOL.

I still think the most interesting thing to happen as far as this topic is
concerned is when the Vatican came out and said they except the possibility
of extraterrestrial life. Could be a ploy to keep believers when we find out
we truly are not alone. Something may be on the horizon.

But is there not always something on the horizon :shrug:

Aliens are out there no doubt about it. The UFO phenomenon is all the
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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: igwna]
    #13574180 - 12/02/10 06:17 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

It's a real life confirmation of something that people have been speculating about for a long time.


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    #13574192 - 12/02/10 06:19 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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It's a real life confirmation of something that people have been speculating about for a long time.






ohhh, well thats cool then.

when do i get the same properties of the alien fish?

will this make me immortal :hehehe:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: igwna]
    #13574202 - 12/02/10 06:20 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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theMERRYiguana said:
lol everyone wanted aliens.





my question is this:



does this mean that life is more likely to exist out "there" because the requirements to life as we knew it, are completely horseshit and not the requirements we thought they were?

hasn't it been speculated before that if we ever encountered alien life we wouldnt be able to understand them?

i am le confused.

what does this discovery mean?




It means we actually proved that life is possible in an environment containing elements other than what "life as we know it" uses as building blocks. Before it was just speculation, now it has been proven.

Given the harsh, unEarth-like conditions on a lot of planets, this suggest that life may even be possible on those planets.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: igwna]
    #13574203 - 12/02/10 06:21 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I don't understand, people think that its a miracle that this thing can survive??? "Life can't exist on another planet because of the extremes" thats mostly crap in my opinion. We have life at the bottoms of the ocean that survive in poisonous sulfer leaks, we can't get near them because we would melt. What makes this thing any different? (supposing it's even real)


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: blewmeanie]
    #13574216 - 12/02/10 06:23 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

just imagine, concidering how little we really know about life......



all of the possibilities


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13574220 - 12/02/10 06:23 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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theMERRYiguana said:
lol everyone wanted aliens.





my question is this:



does this mean that life is more likely to exist out "there" because the requirements to life as we knew it, are completely horseshit and not the requirements we thought they were?

hasn't it been speculated before that if we ever encountered alien life we wouldnt be able to understand them?

i am le confused.

what does this discovery mean?




It means we actually proved that life is possible in an environment containing elements other than what "life as we know it" uses as building blocks. Before it was just speculation, now it has been proven.

Given the harsh, unEarth-like conditions on a lot of planets, this suggest that life may even be possible on those planets.





i really hope life out there doesnt want to eat life down here.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13574224 - 12/02/10 06:24 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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They're saying that the way we understood life to work before may not be how it really is, and that means that it may be possible for there to be life on other planets which have different resources than Earth.
?




I've always felt that what most people relay as planets that could support
life may not always be accurate, look at the extreme conditions that
Tardigrades can endure, terrestrial critter, it leads me to believe that
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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574226 - 12/02/10 06:24 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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We have life at the bottoms of the ocean that survive in poisonous sulfer leaks, we can't get near them because we would melt. What makes this thing any different? (supposing it's even real)




They still use carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur as the building blocks for life. These new bacteria don't.

And supposing it's even real? Take that to the conspiracy forum.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13574229 - 12/02/10 06:25 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Gumby said:
They're saying that the way we understood life to work before may not be how it really is, and that means that it may be possible for there to be life on other planets which have different resources than Earth.
?




I've always felt that what most people relay as planets that could support
life may not always be accurate, look at the extreme conditions that
Tardigrades can endure, terrestrial critter, it leads me to believe that
the truth will always hold true "the more we learn, the more we stand
around with our thumbs in our asses wondering just how much more we'll
never know"





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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: DeadHearts]
    #13574235 - 12/02/10 06:26 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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the Vatican came out and said they except the possibility
of extraterrestrial life.



They should, they only own every major telescope in the world.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: igwna]
    #13574239 - 12/02/10 06:26 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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i really hope life out there doesnt want to eat life down here.





I've seen ET so I'm familliar with aliens, the aliums are nice
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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574240 - 12/02/10 06:26 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't understand, people think that its a miracle that this thing can survive??? "Life can't exist on another planet because of the extremes" thats mostly crap in my opinion. We have life at the bottoms of the ocean that survive in poisonous sulfer leaks, we can't get near them because we would melt. What makes this thing any different? (supposing it's even real)



Because even the communities that spring up around volcanic vents at the bottom of the ocean are made up (from what we can tell) of the same basic components as all other life on the planet. This thing is different!:awesome:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13574245 - 12/02/10 06:27 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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i really hope life out there doesnt want to eat life down here.





I've seen ET so I'm familliar with aliens, the aliums are nice
except the ones in all the other movies that would like to eat you





not very comforting


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574248 - 12/02/10 06:28 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:

the Vatican came out and said they except the possibility
of extraterrestrial life.



They should, they only own every major telescope in the world.




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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13574252 - 12/02/10 06:28 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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We have life at the bottoms of the ocean that survive in poisonous sulfer leaks, we can't get near them because we would melt. What makes this thing any different? (supposing it's even real)




They still use carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur as the building blocks for life. These new bacteria don't.

And supposing it's even real? Take that to the conspiracy forum.



Didn't know that. interesting......
So how do we know this thing is real?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Doc_T]
    #13574275 - 12/02/10 06:32 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
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mindtool said:
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DeadHearts said:

the Vatican came out and said they except the possibility
of extraterrestrial life.



They should, they only own every major telescope in the world.




:orly:




Im not sure about every major one. But they do have some.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574285 - 12/02/10 06:33 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

so who here lives in california that wants to visit a toxic lake with a microscope?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Salomon]
    #13574291 - 12/02/10 06:34 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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so who here lives in california that wants to visit a toxic lake with a microscope?




Why?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574294 - 12/02/10 06:34 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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mindtool said:
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Gumby said:
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mindtool said:
We have life at the bottoms of the ocean that survive in poisonous sulfer leaks, we can't get near them because we would melt. What makes this thing any different? (supposing it's even real)




They still use carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur as the building blocks for life. These new bacteria don't.

And supposing it's even real? Take that to the conspiracy forum.



Didn't know that. interesting......
So how do we know this thing is real?




Well, a very well respected scientist presented the findings to NASA. They documented their materials and methods very well, they have found that arsenate backbones in DNA spontaneously form in solution, and the bacteria replicated in an environment devoid of phosphorus but rich in arsenic and they have electron micrographs(pictures) of the bacteria that grew. I'd say that's pretty good proof it's real.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574296 - 12/02/10 06:34 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

yeah probably not every one, but enough to know if life exists in view. I think they even named one of em Lucifer  heh


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: DeadHearts]
    #13574301 - 12/02/10 06:35 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Nexius said:
If you're here wtf makes you think that other life forms don't exist? heh




The fact that I am here has to be the case or I wouldn't be able to consider the issue. As such it doesn't tell me much about the existence of life in other locations. At most it suggests that life is possible which again, has to be the case....

http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1932#comic
There ya go



EDITED: Sorry, nested quote got screwy


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #13574306 - 12/02/10 06:36 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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If you're here wtf makes you think that other life forms don't exist? heh




The fact that I am here has to be the case or I wouldn't be able to consider the issue. As such it doesn't tell me much about the existence of life in other locations. At most it suggests that life is possible which again, has to be the case....

http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1932#comic
There ya go




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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: DeadHearts]
    #13574307 - 12/02/10 06:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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so who here lives in california that wants to visit a toxic lake with a microscope?




Why?




to see em for yourself:shrug:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13574310 - 12/02/10 06:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

thx for getting me up to speed :wink:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574312 - 12/02/10 06:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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yeah probably not every one, but enough to know if life exists in view. I think they even named one of em Lucifer  heh




Lucifer indeed. Like wtf is that all about? They are some twisted mother fuckers.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Salomon]
    #13574313 - 12/02/10 06:38 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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so who here lives in california that wants to visit a toxic lake with a microscope?




Why?




to see em for yourself:shrug:




It's not that simple... You have to isolate the specific strain of bacteria then introduce them to a growth medium that mimics the lake water's conditions but replace phosphorus with arsenic.

... Would be kinda cool if it was that simple though.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: DeadHearts]
    #13574319 - 12/02/10 06:39 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Im not sure about every major one. But they do have some.




Lots of universities are operated by the Catholic church, especially in Italy.

But there's lots and lots of telescopes from Palomar to the Hubble that aren't "owned by the Vatican".

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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Doc_T]
    #13574343 - 12/02/10 06:44 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:

Im not sure about every major one. But they do have some.




Lots of universities are operated by the Catholic church, especially in Italy.

But there's lots and lots of telescopes from Palomar to the Hubble that aren't "owned by the Vatican".

:tinfoil:




Yes I know.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: igwna]
    #13574346 - 12/02/10 06:44 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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theMERRYiguana said:
i really hope life out there doesnt want to eat life down here.





I've seen ET so I'm familliar with aliens, the aliums are nice
except the ones in all the other movies that would like to eat you





not very comforting





I wasnt here to comfort you, I was trying to convince you to stock up on
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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13574354 - 12/02/10 06:45 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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theMERRYiguana said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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theMERRYiguana said:
i really hope life out there doesnt want to eat life down here.





I've seen ET so I'm familliar with aliens, the aliums are nice
except the ones in all the other movies that would like to eat you





not very comforting





I wasnt here to comfort you, I was trying to convince you to stock up on
ammo and go to their home planet and kill them before they kill you,
it's a preemptive strike... it's Osama Bush Laden approved






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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: DeadHearts]
    #13574374 - 12/02/10 06:50 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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yeah probably not every one, but enough to know if life exists in view. I think they even named one of em Lucifer  heh




Lucifer indeed. Like wtf is that all about? They are some twisted mother fuckers.



yeah doesn't make any sense. Maybe they found something and Lucifer is code to inform the universe cities? just a wild guess

god I have to watch what I say even when I'm being sarcastic, Now everyone is attacking you claiming that you said the Vatican owns every telescope, when it was me and I was being somewhat sarcastic.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13574384 - 12/02/10 06:53 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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theMERRYiguana said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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theMERRYiguana said:
i really hope life out there doesnt want to eat life down here.





I've seen ET so I'm familliar with aliens, the aliums are nice
except the ones in all the other movies that would like to eat you





not very comforting





I wasnt here to comfort you, I was trying to convince you to stock up on
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it's a preemptive strike... it's Osama Bush Laden approved







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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574422 - 12/02/10 06:58 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

NASA is pissing me off!! Those cocksuckers have video of this thing and they haven't released it.:mad2:


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    #13574426 - 12/02/10 06:59 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

:awehigh: :strokebeard:













































Also, I do not know if it has been covered, but I do not think that the initial image of the blue, lizardy thing has anything to do with this story; I saw that picture several months ago.


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NASA is pissing me off!! Those cocksuckers have video of this thing and they haven't released it.:mad2:




A video of bacteria? I promise you, it's not that interesting.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574457 - 12/02/10 07:04 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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yeah probably not every one, but enough to know if life exists in view. I think they even named one of em Lucifer  heh




Lucifer indeed. Like wtf is that all about? They are some twisted mother fuckers.



yeah doesn't make any sense.






it makes plenty of sense, lucifer it the bringer of light, to know lcuifer is to be enlightened


and it also is synonymous with 'morning star'


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    #13574464 - 12/02/10 07:05 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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A video of bacteria? I promise you, it's not that interesting.





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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Prisoner#1]
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yeah probably not every one, but enough to know if life exists in view. I think they even named one of em Lucifer  heh




Lucifer indeed. Like wtf is that all about? They are some twisted mother fuckers.



yeah doesn't make any sense.






it makes plenty of sense, lucifer it the bringer of light, to know lcuifer is to be enlightened


and it also is synonymous with 'morning star'



Well then lets just fucking pray to lucifer then. Still doesn't make much sense.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574541 - 12/02/10 07:21 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Edited-nvm


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Prisoner#1]
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yeah probably not every one, but enough to know if life exists in view. I think they even named one of em Lucifer  heh




Lucifer indeed. Like wtf is that all about? They are some twisted mother fuckers.



yeah doesn't make any sense.






it makes plenty of sense, lucifer it the bringer of light, to know lcuifer is to be enlightened


and it also is synonymous with 'morning star'




I forgot about all that shit :facepalm: Regardless I still think they are twisted as fuck.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: DeadHearts]
    #13575345 - 12/03/10 12:04 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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I honestly don't think this is new news what-so-ever.

I think they're setting up for something bigger.

They magically have pulled alot of groundbreaking discoveries out of their ass the past few weeks, are they slowly breaking the news to something bigger?

I certainly think so.



This is what i have been wondering myself.




Yes indeed. Or should I say maybe or maybe not LOL.

I still think the most interesting thing to happen as far as this topic is
concerned is when the Vatican came out and said they except the possibility
of extraterrestrial life. Could be a ploy to keep believers when we find out
we truly are not alone. Something may be on the horizon.

But is there not always something on the horizon :shrug:

Aliens are out there no doubt about it. The UFO phenomenon is all the
proof anyone should need to tell us just that.




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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13575359 - 12/03/10 12:06 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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so who here lives in california that wants to visit a toxic lake with a microscope?




Why?




to see em for yourself:shrug:




It's not that simple... You have to isolate the specific strain of bacteria then introduce them to a growth medium that mimics the lake water's conditions but replace phosphorus with arsenic.

... Would be kinda cool if it was that simple though.




It is that simple though, we're just stupid in relativity to the vast amount of knowledge to be attained still


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13575521 - 12/03/10 12:43 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Fucking awesome, I love it.

Of course, any element could theoretically be conducive to life, we just have a hard time conceiving complex life which doesn't conform to the same elemental biology we're already familiar with. This is because our thinking is limited by a lack of imagination, not for any scientific reason.

And here's proof positive. :thumbup:


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