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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13574220 - 12/02/10 06:23 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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theMERRYiguana said:
lol everyone wanted aliens.





my question is this:



does this mean that life is more likely to exist out "there" because the requirements to life as we knew it, are completely horseshit and not the requirements we thought they were?

hasn't it been speculated before that if we ever encountered alien life we wouldnt be able to understand them?

i am le confused.

what does this discovery mean?




It means we actually proved that life is possible in an environment containing elements other than what "life as we know it" uses as building blocks. Before it was just speculation, now it has been proven.

Given the harsh, unEarth-like conditions on a lot of planets, this suggest that life may even be possible on those planets.





i really hope life out there doesnt want to eat life down here.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13574224 - 12/02/10 06:24 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Gumby said:
They're saying that the way we understood life to work before may not be how it really is, and that means that it may be possible for there to be life on other planets which have different resources than Earth.
?




I've always felt that what most people relay as planets that could support
life may not always be accurate, look at the extreme conditions that
Tardigrades can endure, terrestrial critter, it leads me to believe that
the truth will always hold true "the more we learn, the more we stand
around with our thumbs in our asses wondering just how much more we'll
never know"


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574226 - 12/02/10 06:24 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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mindtool said:
We have life at the bottoms of the ocean that survive in poisonous sulfer leaks, we can't get near them because we would melt. What makes this thing any different? (supposing it's even real)




They still use carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur as the building blocks for life. These new bacteria don't.

And supposing it's even real? Take that to the conspiracy forum.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13574229 - 12/02/10 06:25 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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Gumby said:
They're saying that the way we understood life to work before may not be how it really is, and that means that it may be possible for there to be life on other planets which have different resources than Earth.
?




I've always felt that what most people relay as planets that could support
life may not always be accurate, look at the extreme conditions that
Tardigrades can endure, terrestrial critter, it leads me to believe that
the truth will always hold true "the more we learn, the more we stand
around with our thumbs in our asses wondering just how much more we'll
never know"





the world was flat once, too


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: DeadHearts]
    #13574235 - 12/02/10 06:26 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:

the Vatican came out and said they except the possibility
of extraterrestrial life.



They should, they only own every major telescope in the world.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: igwna]
    #13574239 - 12/02/10 06:26 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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theMERRYiguana said:
i really hope life out there doesnt want to eat life down here.





I've seen ET so I'm familliar with aliens, the aliums are nice
except the ones in all the other movies that would like to eat you


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574240 - 12/02/10 06:26 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't understand, people think that its a miracle that this thing can survive??? "Life can't exist on another planet because of the extremes" thats mostly crap in my opinion. We have life at the bottoms of the ocean that survive in poisonous sulfer leaks, we can't get near them because we would melt. What makes this thing any different? (supposing it's even real)



Because even the communities that spring up around volcanic vents at the bottom of the ocean are made up (from what we can tell) of the same basic components as all other life on the planet. This thing is different!:awesome:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13574245 - 12/02/10 06:27 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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theMERRYiguana said:
i really hope life out there doesnt want to eat life down here.





I've seen ET so I'm familliar with aliens, the aliums are nice
except the ones in all the other movies that would like to eat you





not very comforting


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574248 - 12/02/10 06:28 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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mindtool said:
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DeadHearts said:

the Vatican came out and said they except the possibility
of extraterrestrial life.



They should, they only own every major telescope in the world.




:orly:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13574252 - 12/02/10 06:28 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Gumby said:
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mindtool said:
We have life at the bottoms of the ocean that survive in poisonous sulfer leaks, we can't get near them because we would melt. What makes this thing any different? (supposing it's even real)




They still use carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur as the building blocks for life. These new bacteria don't.

And supposing it's even real? Take that to the conspiracy forum.



Didn't know that. interesting......
So how do we know this thing is real?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Doc_T]
    #13574275 - 12/02/10 06:32 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
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mindtool said:
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DeadHearts said:

the Vatican came out and said they except the possibility
of extraterrestrial life.



They should, they only own every major telescope in the world.




:orly:




Im not sure about every major one. But they do have some.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574285 - 12/02/10 06:33 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

so who here lives in california that wants to visit a toxic lake with a microscope?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Salomon]
    #13574291 - 12/02/10 06:34 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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so who here lives in california that wants to visit a toxic lake with a microscope?




Why?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574294 - 12/02/10 06:34 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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mindtool said:
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Gumby said:
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mindtool said:
We have life at the bottoms of the ocean that survive in poisonous sulfer leaks, we can't get near them because we would melt. What makes this thing any different? (supposing it's even real)




They still use carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur as the building blocks for life. These new bacteria don't.

And supposing it's even real? Take that to the conspiracy forum.



Didn't know that. interesting......
So how do we know this thing is real?




Well, a very well respected scientist presented the findings to NASA. They documented their materials and methods very well, they have found that arsenate backbones in DNA spontaneously form in solution, and the bacteria replicated in an environment devoid of phosphorus but rich in arsenic and they have electron micrographs(pictures) of the bacteria that grew. I'd say that's pretty good proof it's real.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574296 - 12/02/10 06:34 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

yeah probably not every one, but enough to know if life exists in view. I think they even named one of em Lucifer  heh


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: DeadHearts]
    #13574301 - 12/02/10 06:35 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Nexius said:
If you're here wtf makes you think that other life forms don't exist? heh




The fact that I am here has to be the case or I wouldn't be able to consider the issue. As such it doesn't tell me much about the existence of life in other locations. At most it suggests that life is possible which again, has to be the case....

http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1932#comic
There ya go



EDITED: Sorry, nested quote got screwy


Edited by PoisonCrazy (12/02/10 06:39 PM)


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #13574306 - 12/02/10 06:36 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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PoisonCrazy said:
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DeadHearts said:
If you're here wtf makes you think that other life forms don't exist? heh




The fact that I am here has to be the case or I wouldn't be able to consider the issue. As such it doesn't tell me much about the existence of life in other locations. At most it suggests that life is possible which again, has to be the case....

http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1932#comic
There ya go




I didnt say that.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: DeadHearts]
    #13574307 - 12/02/10 06:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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DeadHearts said:
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Salomon said:
so who here lives in california that wants to visit a toxic lake with a microscope?




Why?




to see em for yourself:shrug:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13574310 - 12/02/10 06:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

thx for getting me up to speed :wink:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: mindtool]
    #13574312 - 12/02/10 06:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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mindtool said:
yeah probably not every one, but enough to know if life exists in view. I think they even named one of em Lucifer  heh




Lucifer indeed. Like wtf is that all about? They are some twisted mother fuckers.


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