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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: LicHmicrO]
    #13572958 - 12/02/10 02:08 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Where can I watch this? The NASA tv site isnt loading for me.


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All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the
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But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns.
Also he got a race car.
Is any of this getting through to you?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Deity208]
    #13573074 - 12/02/10 02:33 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: LicHmicrO]
    #13573089 - 12/02/10 02:36 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: LicHmicrO]
    #13573097 - 12/02/10 02:38 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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ya because in the bible jesus totally says "all life forms must come from phosphorus!"

this doesn't prove, nor disprove anything about the existance of god :rollseyes:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: AntiEverything]
    #13573113 - 12/02/10 02:41 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

this is pretty exciting. arsenic based lifeforms? wow. and that lizard thing looks awesome. hmm wouldn't they be pretty poisonous to us then?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: AntiEverything]
    #13573118 - 12/02/10 02:42 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

If you believe in a supreme being that will condemn you to hell for sinning you need to get your head out of your ass

:facepalm:

You wanna know how to become god?

Become one of the economic elite.

Or become a biophysicist, or biochemist.



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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573138 - 12/02/10 02:45 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Crazy stuff- this discovery


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573145 - 12/02/10 02:47 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

he's got a point that still doesnt disprove anything. God and religion are not synonymous.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573150 - 12/02/10 02:48 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Dammit, I was all stoked that concurrent, separate evolution occured on earth somewhere along the line.

Still neat, but not nearly as interesting considerin the organism was lab manipulated


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Viruk]
    #13573154 - 12/02/10 02:50 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Nexius said:
Found in a lake in california.






That's a nudibranch, from the ocean... not what they found. 

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...the possibility that the life forms, thought to be bacteria from the alkaline Mono Lake in California, are entirely unrelated to any other life on Earth.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/849183-nasa-to-announce-discovery-of-new-form-of-life#ixzz16yaZdTFQ







That site looks sketchy, let's see what NASA has to say.




http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/features/astrobiology_toxic_chemical.html

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Turns out it isn't really a new life form, as it is a new adaptation to standard earth life forms.
The bacteria can use arsenic instead of phosphorous to build its DNA, however it does thrive better in a phosphorous environment where it starts to replace the arsenic, with the standard phosphorus.

The interesting part comes from the fact that arsenic is widely believed to be poisonous to ALL life.




It completely substitutes arsenic for phosphorous in it's entire biological make up, not just the DNA. The thing that makes it significant is they found the gene that makes arsenic for phosphorous substitution possible. I'm not sure if I heard right, but I think they said they found it in a noncoding/dead portion of DNA, which opens up the possibility that life originally used arsenic rather than phosphorus as one of the main building blocks of life.

We always thought the necessities for life were carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur. This could potentially mean any of those could be substituted with other elements with similar chemical properties.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Gumby]
    #13573159 - 12/02/10 02:51 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Gumby said:
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Nexius said:
Found in a lake in california.






That's a nudibranch, from the ocean... not what they found. 

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Doc_T said:
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mellowparty said:
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...the possibility that the life forms, thought to be bacteria from the alkaline Mono Lake in California, are entirely unrelated to any other life on Earth.

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/news/849183-nasa-to-announce-discovery-of-new-form-of-life#ixzz16yaZdTFQ







That site looks sketchy, let's see what NASA has to say.




http://www.nasa.gov/topics/universe/features/astrobiology_toxic_chemical.html

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Viruk said:
Turns out it isn't really a new life form, as it is a new adaptation to standard earth life forms.
The bacteria can use arsenic instead of phosphorous to build its DNA, however it does thrive better in a phosphorous environment where it starts to replace the arsenic, with the standard phosphorus.

The interesting part comes from the fact that arsenic is widely believed to be poisonous to ALL life.




It completely substitutes arsenic for phosphorous in it's entire biological make up, not just the DNA. The thing that makes it significant is they found the gene that makes arsenic for phosphorous substitution possible. I'm not sure if I heard right, but I think they said they found it in a noncoding/dead portion of DNA, which opens up the possibility that life originally used arsenic rather than phosphorus as one of the main building blocks of life.

We always thought the necessities for life were carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus and sulfur. This could potentially mean any of those could be substituted with other elements with similar chemical properties.








I know lol, i just posted it cuz it looked cool.

Like a human would dip their hand in a pool of arsenic to grab a unknown creature :rolleyes:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573179 - 12/02/10 02:56 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I'd do it, as long as I didn't put my hands in my mouth afterwards :lol:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573180 - 12/02/10 02:57 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

haha


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573281 - 12/02/10 03:21 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

This is pretty sweet!  :thumbup:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nymphaea]
    #13573328 - 12/02/10 03:31 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I honestly don't think this is new news what-so-ever.

I think they're setting up for something bigger.

They magically have pulled alot of groundbreaking discoveries out of their ass the past few weeks, are they slowly breaking the news to something bigger?

I certainly think so.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573396 - 12/02/10 03:44 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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I honestly don't think this is new news what-so-ever.

I think they're setting up for something bigger.

They magically have pulled alot of groundbreaking discoveries out of their ass the past few weeks, are they slowly breaking the news to something bigger?

I certainly think so.



its called low funding

they are trying to stay relevant in publics eye.


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #13573400 - 12/02/10 03:45 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

b0red5tiff, do you have any biology background?


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #13573404 - 12/02/10 03:45 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Well they're not staying relevant in mine.




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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: Nexius]
    #13573424 - 12/02/10 03:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I had a feeling this would happen. Most of the people in the science community are like "dude holy fuck this is amazing and huge," where as other people are like "uhh... so what's the big fuckin deal?"

Can't win em all :shrug:


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Re: NASA: New biological life forms from arsenic [Re: LicHmicrO]
    #13573427 - 12/02/10 03:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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well, if you want to count gravity, sun centered solar system, round earth, age of the world/universe then its like

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