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Are deliriants worth it?
    #13569121 - 12/01/10 04:57 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

A friend of mine is getting one of those and I'm curious. I think that's what they're called (correct me if I'm wrong and I'll change the thread title). He described it as "With LSD, you see colors. With this, you see little goblins walking around". I'm not sure what drug exactly he's talking about, but is stuff like that worth trying? I've never tried anything beyond shrooms, acid and ecstasy.

Thanks!

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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: GEncore]
    #13569144 - 12/01/10 05:01 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Goblins walking around sounds more like a deliriant (such as DPH or Datura). I wouldn't touch them, they don't sound very fun or insightful.

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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: GEncore]
    #13569150 - 12/01/10 05:03 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Little goblins walking around sounds like deliriants to me lol. If he is talking about dissociatives I personally think they are just as valuable as any psychedelic, although some people my disagree.

It's all preference really.


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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: Belac]
    #13569167 - 12/01/10 05:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Dissociatives are amazing. It's an out-of-body experience. Definitely worth trying out.


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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: pescadorabioso]
    #13569172 - 12/01/10 05:07 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Changed the title, lol. I'm pretty sure he was talking about deliriants from the sound of it. I'll ask him the name of the drug when I get a chance.

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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: GEncore]
    #13569189 - 12/01/10 05:10 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

If its deliriants then no, not really. The body load is horrible and the visuals are mostly scary and they will fuck your mind. Id try DPH once and then never touch it again. If your friend is talking about datura then DO NOT DO IT.


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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: Belac]
    #13569355 - 12/01/10 05:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I feel that Deliriants arn't as much a drug at high doses as much they are poison. Your short term memory is fucked completely, your eyes blur, throat drys the fuck out, your breathing soften alot (which always freaks me out)

AND the visuals seem to be parts of real life;IE a stray cat in your house/every day sounds muffled in the background. So you don't really appreciate any of the effects.

High doeses cause full amnesia in some cases, along with the most profound hallucinations, IE complete day dreams that you snap in and out of/with open eyes see wild animals and familiar people that you can often touch and talk to.

Things appear and disappear all over. Nothings real, and yet everythings real. Everything is a hallucination. You are a hallucination. You lose grip in the blur of realitys and wake up the next day with the worse hangover of your life. People will tell you of the madness that happened when you black out, and you will be empty and disturbed because of the harsh memorys.

Be safe. Deliriants are witch craft. Evil poison that make shadows come to life. Beware. Proceed with caution.

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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: 420happyhippy]
    #13569397 - 12/01/10 05:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Geez. That doesn't sound fun at all.

Thanks for informing me, all.

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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: 420happyhippy]
    #13569439 - 12/01/10 05:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

your body will feel really really heavy which makes you sort of bed bound. This lasts 2 hours. you have to use reasoning and figure out what's real and not. the hallucinations may or may not go away. cracks in the ceiling will stay there, but when you see your dog flying 6 feet off the ground, that will go away in less than a second. some flowing rivers in textures. You'll likely just have extremely lucid/vivid dreams (I have these at night all the time among other sleep issues), and you have to remember stuff like "oh wait, I can't walk so how am I walking normally right now" or "I can't be smoking this bowl. I didn't buy weed today", but your fucked when someone goes downstairs and you can hear them again right in the room next to yours. This is a true headfuck and I can only imagine what kind of catastrophes can happen

As someone whos had several amazing shroom/lsd trips I enjoyed this, but someone whos unexperienced will probably freak out. My experience was full of comfort, pleasant dreams, and extra rest. I also had a 2 day afterglow as a personal reaction to the visuals since I hadn't seen any in like a year

The visual and auditory hallucinations, the bugginess (like an insect), and, the short dream or reality after short dream or reality nature, make 700mg of DPH (which is no more than 15mg datura, I haven't tried datura) just like having been sleep deprived for one or two weeks. It's also just like the hypnic hallucinations in the morning when half asleep or falling back sleep and waking up several times in like 20mins, but lasting for 4 hours

I bought datura but am staying away from it cuz DPH made my vision blurry for days.

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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: danvb329]
    #13569471 - 12/01/10 06:03 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Deliriants  :feelsbadman:


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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: kush420]
    #13569538 - 12/01/10 06:14 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Hell no!


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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: OverStoned]
    #13569581 - 12/01/10 06:24 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I feel salvia was deliriant in my opinion! I had no clue what was going on, I forgot that I took anything, I couldn't speak clearly, my time was all messed up, I couldn't stand and walk properly (I took monster exaggerated steps) and it felt like it lasted HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS (I thought I was living days!!!) and that was just in 18 minutes. 4+ hours of that... yikes

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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: 420happyhippy]
    #13569630 - 12/01/10 06:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I feel that Deliriants arn't as much a drug at high doses as much they are poison. Your short term memory is fucked completely, your eyes blur, throat drys the fuck out, your breathing soften alot (which always freaks me out)

AND the visuals seem to be parts of real life;IE a stray cat in your house/every day sounds muffled in the background. So you don't really appreciate any of the effects.

High doeses cause full amnesia in some cases, along with the most profound hallucinations, IE complete day dreams that you snap in and out of/with open eyes see wild animals and familiar people that you can often touch and talk to.

Things appear and disappear all over. Nothings real, and yet everythings real. Everything is a hallucination. You are a hallucination. You lose grip in the blur of realitys and wake up the next day with the worse hangover of your life. People will tell you of the madness that happened when you black out, and you will be empty and disturbed because of the harsh memorys.

Be safe. Deliriants are witch craft. Evil poison that make shadows come to life. Beware. Proceed with caution.

HH




Sounds like my 16 Dramamine experience. We were staying at a river house (shitty trailer) and i remember continuously coming to and realizing everything that just happened didn't. I would go through conversations and then realize I had said nothing. MY arms were covered in crawling ants, the carpet was the same. Big spiders kept popping out of shadows and back in. I wouldn't say it was a bad experience, it was just really fucking weird. Worst cotton mouth of my life and restless leg syndrome type shit had my moving my legs around every 4 seconds, I couldn't not move my legs lol.

To add: I also forgot to mention I did a smaller dose one time and I kept thinking all night I was hearing my mom and her boyfriend at the time were fucking. Really annoying :[

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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: thissongis]
    #13571041 - 12/01/10 11:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

My highest dose with deliriants is 600mg of Diphenhydramine and Ive done it multiple times. I find that even though they are uncomfortable, they are very interesting, which always draws me back.

Too bad I cant dose it anymore because Ill throw up before I can swallow 26 of those damn pills. I get nausea just looking at them lol.


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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: Belac]
    #13571102 - 12/01/10 11:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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My highest dose with deliriants is 600mg of Diphenhydramine and Ive done it multiple times. I find that even though they are uncomfortable, they are very interesting, which always draws me back.

Too bad I cant dose it anymore because Ill throw up before I can swallow 26 of those damn pills. I get nausea just looking at them lol.




Yeah, I've tripped on Dramamine and DPH multiple times as well. They are quite interesting, and they can produce some interesting, realistic, serotonergic-like visuals beyond the actual hallucinations. The body high is very strange, and definitely uncomfortable, though back when I used to trip on deliriants I found it to be rather exciting and OBE-like.

Despite how interesting they are, I'd never do either drug again. I went through my deliriant stage back when I was young, stupid, and connectionless, and looking back, they came with some terribly dirty side-effects which would totally flip me out now in days.


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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: psychoanomaly]
    #13571360 - 12/02/10 12:46 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, I have also done alot of Motion sickness/allergy medicines back in the day. When I was young and dumb, and had no connection to real drugs, I would take OTC to "trip".

take 20 fucking pills and day dream with my eyes open. wrinkled blankets would take form in my blurry vision as random people. I would whisper to the hallucination and the person would speak back. I'd have a conversation, even bum a ciggerate, light it and hand back the lighter, and then i'd snap out of it and realize im in an empty room.

random audio hallucinations like voices coming from behind my bookshelf or from inside my closet. The whole time, I would watch this shit, as if it were the "normal" thing to do...

lol, I stopped doing that shit, cuz the last time I did it I went over board. I ended up taking roughly 100 motion sickness pills in less then 24 hours ( when you lose your short term memory, redosing is dangerous )

Anyway, I blacked out and came to in nothing but my boxers, wondering around my buddys backyard. Stumbling around with my friends laughing at me. I army crawl to the street and look up, and see multiple cop cars, and ambulances...

"Do you need any help son?"


"Ummm... no. I'm just... My friends are over there..." I point over towards my friends, who looked to be hiding behind trees just feet away.

"Who are you talking about...?"


I look up and they vanished. Fuck... im poisoned! The next hours are a daze of creepy hallucinations, crying parents, hospital nurses, and blood tests. It all felt like a dream...




I awoke to a phone call asking if I wanted to go swimming. I hop outta bed, run down the street, and jump in the pool. I'm swimming around and my buddys ask me to come to the side. I lean over the edge and my friend asks about the band on my wrist. I couldn't explain. It was a hospital visitors pass. It really wasn't a dream...



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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: psychoanomaly]
    #13571612 - 12/02/10 02:43 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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My highest dose with deliriants is 600mg of Diphenhydramine and Ive done it multiple times.




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Yeah, I've tripped on Dramamine and DPH multiple times as well.




Holy crap.  I feel stupid for not realizing the DPH that always gets mentioned is diphenhydramine.

I had no idea diphenhydramine was a deliriant.  I take them a few times a week for insomnia.

No wonder 2 or 3 of them fuck me up so badly.

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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #13571656 - 12/02/10 03:15 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

2 or 3 shouldn't fuck you up.
:facepalm:

IMO, unless you sensative to DPH, go 1gram+ or go home.


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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: saxx]
    #13571695 - 12/02/10 03:41 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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2 or 3 shouldn't fuck you up.
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Not fucked up as in tripping, dude.

Fucked up as in fucked up.  They're sleeping pills.  One or two 50mg is supposed to affect you long before what a whole gram would do.  Take 3 of them see if it doesn't have you feeling like you're drunk or drugged up.

Edit to add: Come to think of it, they might be 100mg pills.  I can't remember.  But whatever they are, two won't make you trip but it'll make you feel half-drunk, sleepy and stupid.

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Re: Are dissociative drugs worth it? [Re: Johnny Springfield]
    #13571930 - 12/02/10 07:01 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yeah you gotta stay in your appartment and dream away. If someone knocks on your door be really quiet til they leave

LOL you thought you were swimming when you were probably running around at a hospital. but yeah it's really fucked how you don't even know what happened


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