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OfflineSyco
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Super small shrooms off casing need help.
    #1356491 - 03/07/03 05:41 AM (21 years, 26 days ago)

A friend of a friend made a 50/50 casing with verm, peat moss, and crushed oyster shell. Everything was going well or so he thought .The pins were looking good at first but now he is noticing that something is terribly wrong. The shrooms growing off it are smaller then tooth pics and most are not growing much at all. He just misted the casing good with a h20/h202 mix. He has been fanning it 3-4 times a day and cannot figure out what is going wrong it does not appear to be contaminated either. Here is a pic of some of the shrooms any ideas would be helpful.



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OfflineSyco
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Re: Super small shrooms of casing need help. [Re: Syco]
    #1356497 - 03/07/03 05:44 AM (21 years, 26 days ago)

almost forgot the pic. There are also alot of aborts on this casing...


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Re: Super small shrooms off casing need help. [Re: Syco]
    #1356534 - 03/07/03 04:55 PM (21 years, 26 days ago)

what kind of subbstrate did you use? if it was cakes did you dunk them before you cased?


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Re: Super small shrooms off casing need help. [Re: Syco]
    #1356585 - 03/07/03 05:25 PM (21 years, 26 days ago)

how thick of substrate layer?

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Re: Super small shrooms off casing need help. [Re: dragonfly]
    #1356634 - 03/07/03 05:44 PM (21 years, 26 days ago)

Thats looks like a shroom on crack haha


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Re: Super small shrooms off casing need help. [Re: dragonfly]
    #1356643 - 03/07/03 05:47 PM (21 years, 26 days ago)

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how thick of substrate layer?



and, how deep is the casing layer ? do you know what rh is ?

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Re: Super small shrooms of casing need help. [Re: Syco]
    #1356680 - 03/07/03 05:59 PM (21 years, 26 days ago)

i just read another one of your posts and u said you used the SoS tek. DON'T USE THAT TEK. it is the biggest piece of shit. turn a bunch of cakes into tiny masses of mycelium with a little verm on top. great way to make sure you get tiny unpotent shrooms

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Re: Super small shrooms of casing need help. [Re: dragonfly]
    #1356856 - 03/07/03 07:18 PM (21 years, 26 days ago)

>great way to make sure you get tiny unpotent shrooms

Do small mushrooms are less potent?

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Re: Super small shrooms of casing need help. [Re: Anno]
    #1356879 - 03/07/03 07:30 PM (21 years, 26 days ago)

the lack of substrate supporting the fruit body would be less so less nutrients getting to the mushroom so less psilocybin produced?

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Re: Super small shrooms of casing need help. [Re: dragonfly]
    #1356935 - 03/07/03 08:02 PM (21 years, 26 days ago)

Well, I tried it.

And the result was: The less substrate used, the smaller the mushrooms.

But the potency didn?t change at all, regardless how much or how little substrate was used in a container.

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OfflineSyco
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Re: Super small shrooms of casing need help. [Re: Anno]
    #1357305 - 03/08/03 03:17 AM (21 years, 26 days ago)

I did not use the sos tek for this casing I cased a half pint cake in a bread pan with 50/50 verm, peat moss, and crushed oyster shell. I only did about a 1/2 inch casing layer maybe a little less. Im not sure of the exact RH but I mist the bag its in daily as well as fan it. BTW the one sos tek cup that I did with less then a half of cake is spitting out nice mushrooms....


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Re: Super small shrooms of casing need help. [Re: Syco]
    #1357328 - 03/08/03 03:31 AM (21 years, 26 days ago)

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And the result was: The less substrate used, the smaller the mushrooms.

But the potency didn?t change at all, regardless how much or how little substrate was used in a container.



This has been my experience also.
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for this casing I cased a half pint cake in a bread pan



Next time try 3 or 4 1/2 pint cakes.


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Re: Super small shrooms of casing need help. [Re: Syco]
    #1357499 - 03/08/03 05:08 AM (21 years, 25 days ago)

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I cased a half pint cake in a bread pan




I think that is your whole problem. The less spawn you use, the smaller you mushrooms will be. Try the same casing procedure woth more cakes, ans I can almost guarantee you will get larger fruits.


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