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#1356389 - 03/07/03 05:05 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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i posted in the regular cult forum no answers so maybe this is the appropiate forum.......
.my cat lives where snow last till early april by that imy cat mean it still snows now my cat wants do some outdoors but my cat wants to have the benifiet of being able to add substrate to keep it going so that my cat can use the same bed the following year. mycat does know that the ridiculously freezing cold cold kill it but...............i was wondering
ok say my cat dug a bed about 1 foot deep 3ft by 3 ft (subject to change)then by placing two 5 gallon (or a lil smaler buckets) in holes in the middle of the bed so that the foot deep beds bottom would line up with opening of the buckets. sort of acting like a deep resavoir of mycilium to maybe up the chances of it surviving it would keep my cat from having to dig a bed to deep. so when the bed and buckets are spawned they will eventually colonize as one (of course lol) but if the frost kills a lil of the top layer the mycilium at the bottom could regrow as soon as weather(temps) promit.......right?
so what im asking is this a waste of tim will it work and if it can could these lil extras help too???????
could you put a couple resavoirs of water and a lil or alot of vermiculite (so that it wicks and dosent drown mycilium) so it could have an internal source
would lining the bed with a good plastic ( maybe punch very tiny holes all around to breath)to help keep al those danm worms and millipeds and digger beetles and such from eating the bed underground?
moeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee im looking at you lol
Edited by Raadt (03/08/03 08:31 AM)
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: realrasta]
#1356465 - 03/07/03 05:29 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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If it's too cold it wont colonize most likely anyway so there really in so point in doing it while its colds.Wait until it gets no colder than about 50F at night.
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: Anonymous]
#1356733 - 03/07/03 06:20 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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well obviously im not doing this right now but dont you thank it would be smart to figure out how im going to do this before i start??????????????anyways im not asking how to colonize when its could im asking is this a good way to protect my patch from the cold
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: realrasta]
#1357034 - 03/07/03 09:07 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ahh I see.The bigger and deeper you make it the more heat it will produce on it's own.The bigger the patch the less you'll have to worry about that
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: realrasta]
#1357052 - 03/07/03 09:19 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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if you're asking how to protect it from the cold next winter, the answer is insulation . maybe some heat cables if its near enough to the house .
i don't think cubensis mycelium will grow much deeper then 8-10" .
i have grown asparagus in N.Dak by covering the plants with coffee cans, and stuffing them with straw .
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: deanofmean]
#1357190 - 03/08/03 01:16 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks you two for your imput. does anyone else have an opinion
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: realrasta]
#1357897 - 03/08/03 08:07 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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It all depends on where you are,I didnt think of that at first.What state or region are you in?
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: Anonymous]
#1358082 - 03/08/03 10:10 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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new england close to canada on the east coast
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: realrasta]
#1358568 - 03/08/03 02:10 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think it would regenerate due to the fact that it doesn't in nature that far north, i am to the understanding that cubensis grow only in the area of america that very rarely has any snow at all, i think this is an indicator that it won't survive the frigid winters. but it will last through one season, just have to restart it each season. good idea but it won't work.
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: Trippy Hippy]
#1358662 - 03/08/03 03:06 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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well although you may be right where do you ge without tryin experement time
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: realrasta]
#1358771 - 03/08/03 04:08 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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He's probably right,but we get a couple of inches of snow every year and a patch can last through that.Wild growing cubensis is still pretty rare here,it probably wouuldn't even make it through a winter that far north unless it was HUGE as hell.
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: Anonymous]
#1358988 - 03/08/03 06:14 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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thats what im going for
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: realrasta]
#1359029 - 03/08/03 06:44 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay.Do this as soon as possible,as soon as it gets no colder than around 50 degress at night. You'll need a shitload of spawn,at least 3-4 gallons,but you should use more if possible.You'll need a LOT of hay,like several bales.It gets pretty damn cold up there so you'll want to make it big enough where it generates enough heat on it's own.If you can use like 4-5 bales of hay and an equal amount of manure,I think it might work.Dig the deepest and widest hole you can stand to dig and fill the bottom with hay and stomp it down until there's a good size layer on the bottom.Fill with dry,leached manure and more hay.You'll wan to mix the spawn evenly as possible throught filling the hole,every once in a while stir and mix it up as best as possible.Leave some spawn and manure for the end.On top of the patch spread some manure and spawn,and finally another layer of manure on top.(you'll want some spawn near the top of the patch) Get as much water as possible and water it throught the mixing/filling process.Get some grass seeds and sprinkle them everywhere.Water the patch well again and leave for at least a month.
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: Anonymous]
#1359516 - 03/09/03 02:59 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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that sounds a little lacking im going to soak the manuer and straw is that so bad also my cat putting two 5 gallon buckets so im going to layer spawn substrate all the way up pu it in the ground theeeen im going to layer spawn and substrate to fil a foot deep 4 ft by 4 ft patch. im actually positive this will work also i dont know about grass seed cause i want to pile on more substrate to build a mound( ithought it might help to
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: realrasta]
#1359795 - 03/09/03 06:38 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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WOW,I thought you would be discouraged by the numerous hay bales and hours of extended digging and work.You'll need LITERALLY as much manure as possible,lay it all out on the ground and leach it. When you have your patch completed,SPRINKLE GRASS SEEDS EVERYWHERE. It helps the humidity,it's like a terrarium for them and it also helps camouflage them.And you also definatley want to pile it up beyond the hole you dug,higher and wider.You want to make this patch as big as possible,and even if it doesn't last throughout winter you'll have a shitload of fruits before then.I think if you make it it good enough it should work
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: Anonymous]
#1359894 - 03/09/03 07:44 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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cooooooool weell i do a grow log for it
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Re: outdoor idea??????????????????????????? [Re: realrasta]
#1359920 - 03/09/03 08:03 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hell yeah,there's never been a growlog like that
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#1360494 - 03/09/03 12:49 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think the strain will matter much for him since he's so far north
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Re: outdoor idea? [Re: Anonymous]
#1360815 - 03/09/03 03:24 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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sooooo... if u live in the north.. lets say.. somewhere near the coast of British Columbia... and u make an outdoor patch in the summer, and it gets cold in the winter, like -20 C*, will your patch die out and u have to redo it every year?
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Re: outdoor idea? [Re: GWAR]
#1360995 - 03/09/03 04:15 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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First of all,i don't even know how cold -20 C is. Second of all,there's too many factors to give you a real answer.If it was painstakingly huge,possibly,but I doubt it since y'all get so much snow and cold weather.Most likely it will die,but if you want to go through a LOT,and I mean a fucking LOT of work like realrasta is then you might have some success as far as making through the winter. I wouldn't count on it too much though,I'm sure it would work somehow though.
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Re: outdoor idea? [Re: GWAR]
#1361148 - 03/09/03 05:09 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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thats what im trying to provent but yes if it gets cold enough to freeze the ground down a foot then your bed is dead thus the bed is dug and then 5 gallon buckets to deepen the bed without having to dig the hole bed that deep. also no one has siad weather a resavior of water would help and if plastic lining would help keep bugs from attacking it from underground
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Re: outdoor idea? [Re: realrasta]
#1361162 - 03/09/03 05:15 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just understood what you are talking about with the buckets.No,you'll probably need more than the bucket thing you are talking about.I'd dig at least 2 feet deep and then use this bucket idea of yours if you still wanted too. There's really no point to doing all this work just to have it fail because you didn't want to dig a little more.
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Re: outdoor idea? [Re: Anonymous]
#1361484 - 03/09/03 08:20 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah maybe that will do it i wanna het to reptile heta pads and put one under each bucket i also will run a ectintion cord to it under ground it isnt going to be that far would that do it.
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Re: outdoor idea? [Re: realrasta]
#1361495 - 03/09/03 08:29 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
i also will run a ectintion cord to it under ground
That just sounds like a very bad idea to me man.
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Re: outdoor idea? [Re: Anonymous]
#1361505 - 03/09/03 08:42 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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i could protect it with pvc pipe and put it on a surge protector. that would be fool proof
Edited by realrasta (03/09/03 08:43 PM)
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Re: outdoor idea? [Re: realrasta]
#1361512 - 03/09/03 08:45 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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also it only gets -20f not celcius (C)
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Re: outdoor idea? [Re: realrasta]
#1361515 - 03/09/03 08:48 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't know man,if you think you can pull it off go ahead but then you have to also put a digital thermometer and shit down there so you can read the temps,that's getting really complicated so you better plan this out REALLY well. And in this hobby,NEVER,NEVER,never ever ever ever say anything is "fool proof" cause that's usually when you land flat on your ass
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Re: outdoor idea? [Re: Anonymous]
#1361524 - 03/09/03 09:01 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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well ill give it the test im mean i have nothing else to do at lest i wont have to worry about the dirt catching fire and ill test how hot they get. i know im smart enough to figure this out but im actually trying it without the heat pads this tim eor i might do to ill post it in a grown log months down the road
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Re: outdoor idea? [Re: Anonymous]
#1361529 - 03/09/03 09:07 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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also it only gets -20f not celcius (C)
NO,I'm from the south,I can't even concieve of temps that cold,i think you may be right about this heating pad thing if it get's anywhere near that cold.Some digital thermoters have a long wire that you can put out the window or something so you can view the outdoor temp while inside,use that in the bed to make sure it ain't too hot
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Re: outdoor idea? [Re: realrasta]
#1362280 - 03/10/03 06:39 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
also it only gets -20f not celcius (C)
the way you word that it sounds as if you believe -20C is colder than -20F. -20C=-4F; -20F=-29C
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Re: outdoor idea? [Re: realrasta]
#1362543 - 03/10/03 08:09 AM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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nice all of those look nice my cats going bto run a controll and three different beds to see which if any work
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