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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: Nexius]
    #13562299 - 11/30/10 10:58 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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For you zap

http://sayitaintsoalready.com/2010/08/23/rupert-murdochs-business-partner-is-a-muslim/

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Hey, Fox News fans and Glenn Beck followers, take a good long look at this photograph.  That would be Rupert Murdoch on the left.  He owns Fox News.  The guy on the right is Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal.  bin Talal is Murdoch’s business partner.  He is the second-largest shareholder in News Corp., Fox’s parent company.  And guess what — HE’S A MUSLIM!



The “mosque” insanity perpetrated by Faux and other right wing nut jobs has nothing whatsoever to do with Muslims.  It has to do with scaring and firing up ignorant (and I mean ignorant) Americans so they’ll flock to the polls in November and vote for Republicans so Republicans can keep their tax breaks for the rich and do who knows what else to promote the corporatocracy and screw us small people.

Pull.  Head.  Out.  Of.  Ass.






OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH a rich Muslim is the second-largest shareholder in News Corp., Fox’s parent company.  Wow, he owns 9% of the stock of a publicly traded media company.  Stunning.

So which is it?  The JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS or the MUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZIES?

Maybe it's the Mexicans:

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/carlos_slim_helu/index.html

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In 2008, Mr. Slim purchased stock that gave him a 6.9 percent ownership stake in The New York Times Company. On Jan. 19, 2009, the newspaper company announced that it had reached an agreement with Mr. Slim for a $250 million loan intended to help it  finance its businesses.




Fucking nutcase infiltrators.


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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13562400 - 11/30/10 11:19 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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What does that have to do with this?




Does the character of our 'secret-holders' mean anything to you?  or is the pentagon divined from god to be the one and only secret-bearing temple in this nation till the end of time?  If they keep fucking up and doing sketchy shit, why are they still being entrusted with our most important secrets and secret operations? 

If there is no incentive to do a good job, (like to avoid being fired, or at least a performance review) then what's the point of doing it?  They can't really fuck up anymore than they did on 9/11, (short of a nuclear attack) and there was zero visible backlash because of it.

What if they are infiltrated by spies that want to work gradually to undermine and usurp American interests?  Their unchecked nature is prone to the worst kind of corruption.

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Do you think there should be no secrets?
Do you think everyone should be privy to all negotiations and all intelligence briefings?




No.

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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: Seuss] * 1
    #13562486 - 11/30/10 11:39 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: Shroomism]
    #13562550 - 11/30/10 11:54 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Who elected that cocksucking freak to be the arbiter of what is and is not appropriately secret?  Or you?


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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13562554 - 11/30/10 11:55 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

They aren't elected


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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: Shroomism]
    #13562567 - 11/30/10 11:57 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

The President and all of our representatives are.  Neither you nor Assholeange have any authority or permission to decide.


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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: Shroomism]
    #13562571 - 11/30/10 11:58 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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They aren't elected



that's kinda the point, right? :ronpaul:


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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: Shroomism]
    #13562595 - 11/30/10 12:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Shroomism said:

Someone will replace him, they will kill him like they did John Lennon and JFK and then 20 more will rise up





Cuckoo, cuckoo.
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Soon the murderers will be bought to trial and made to take responsibility for their actions, this is our planet, not theirs.




Don't include myself or most of the population of the US in any imaginary our with you.  You are at best a small marginalized faction.


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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13562605 - 11/30/10 12:04 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Shroomism said:

Someone will replace him, they will kill him like they did John Lennon and JFK and then 20 more will rise up





Cuckoo, cuckoo.
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Soon the murderers will be bought to trial and made to take responsibility for their actions, this is our planet, not theirs.




Don't include myself or most of the population of the US in any imaginary our with you.  You are at best a small marginalized faction.



Why are you so fucking sure all if this is just conspiracist nonsense? You think the government is above any of this? Do you think the U.S. government will stop at ANYTHING to achieve their ends? :lol:


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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: VisionaryFlicker]
    #13562842 - 11/30/10 01:04 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think they are, nor do I expect and demand them to be, that competent.  They couldn't do it even if, as the lunatics assert, they felt the need to.

I think there is a special place in psychological hell for people who persist in believing that either Lennon or JFK was murdered by some all-controlling cabal of dark ops controllers.  Most notably it is the eager acceptance of their perpetual excuse making for why their lives have been a failure.  They would be much better served by getting off their whiny asses and making a life for themselves.


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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13562984 - 11/30/10 01:37 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Another shroomerite just said, and I quote:

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The military personel that leaked that information should be shot in the back of the head, those hosting and spreading the information post-leak are perfectly fine.




I agree with that on some level.

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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #13563063 - 11/30/10 02:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know about shot but he is right that Assange is just a tool.  Although I would see him prosecuted for posting the social security numbers of soldiers.

Manning is going to assuredly spend many years in prison and by the look of him will be quite popular with the lads.  Oh well.  DADT.


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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13563917 - 11/30/10 05:23 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

he certainly is a tool.  and wikileaks is nothing but a controlled psy-op.

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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13564155 - 11/30/10 06:07 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH a rich Muslim is the second-largest shareholder in News Corp., Fox’s parent company.  Wow, he owns 9% of the stock of a publicly traded media company.  Stunning.




I don't think it's that he's a Muslim, so much as that he's a fucking Saudi Prince. A goat-raping, honor-killing, medieval plutocrat who would be playing with his own poop if the rest of the world didn't need his Kingdom's (yes, that's 'Kingdom', in 2010) oil.

Seriously, in a perfect world, these fuckers would be dead, and the women in their countries would not be stoned to death for rape, forced to wear tents, 'circumcized', etc. Not to mention that whole 9/11 thing; so much for 'never forget', eh?

Wait a sec... if the Saudis fund terrorists who kill Americans, and Fox News pays dividends to the Saudis... hmm... if only I had a chalkboard. :strokebeard:

(Now if only I could find pictures of a Republican President holding hands with one of these fucks and walking through the White House garden, kissing him on the cheek, et cetera... that would be icing on the cake!)

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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: jimbotron]
    #13564503 - 11/30/10 07:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

> A goat-raping, honor-killing, medieval plutocrat who would be playing with his own poop if the rest of the world didn't need his Kingdom's

Wow, you sound just like one of those right wing extremist tea party types that Anna loves so much. 

> Wait a sec... if the Saudis fund terrorists who kill Americans, and Fox News pays dividends to the Saudis... hmm... if only I had a chalkboard. :strokebeard:

Corporations that decide to pay dividends do not get to choose to pay some shareholders and not others (of the same type of stock).


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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13566593 - 12/01/10 05:48 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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The President and all of our representatives are.  Neither you nor Assholeange have any authority or permission to decide.





of course they do, once the shit is in their hands it's entirely up to
them to do what ever they want with it. do you leave your secrets laying
around the house for just anyone to come along and distribute

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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: Seuss]
    #13566605 - 12/01/10 05:57 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Seuss said:
1) Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales said, "I would distance myself from WikiLeaks, I wish they wouldn't use the name, they are not a Wiki. A big way they got famous in the first place was by using the word Wiki, which was unfortunate in my view".




is he upset about all the other sites that arent true wikis are using the
name, would he still be upset if they were a wiki

of course if they were a wiki I can guess how quickly the site would have
shut down based solely on the hassle of having to ban 90% of the people
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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #13567527 - 12/01/10 11:39 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
The President and all of our representatives are.  Neither you nor Assholeange have any authority or permission to decide.





of course they do, once the shit is in their hands it's entirely up to
them to do what ever they want with it. do you leave your secrets laying
around the house for just anyone to come along and distribute



No.  We'll see what happens to asshole.  Interpol has him listed as most wanted.  I do, however, often leave valuable items in plain sight in my house.  If you take them you are a thief and will be prosecuted.  I'm surprised they aren't going after Assange for receiving stolen property.  Maybe when the idiot Holder gets back from lobbying for the World Cup in 2022 he'll look into it.  He certainly isn't tied up in any New Black Panther voter intimidation prosecutions.

You are 100% correct to point out the dereliction of duty at State in 1.  allowing Manning access, 2. allowing him to remove data and 3. utterly failing to do anything after the cat got out of the bag.  Then again, incompetence has been a main feature of the  State Department for decades.


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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13567580 - 12/01/10 11:51 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

secrets aren't possessions.  if i see two guys making a covert deal (providing i haven't signed any non-disclosure agreements)  I can tell whoever the hell i want

and nothing will happen to assange.  he's the media's 'hero' and he's white, and a convenient new terrorist.  it's all a bunch of noise to help influence policy.  wikileaks is an asset not a liability.

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Re: IkiLeaks [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13567709 - 12/01/10 12:14 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Grav said:
secrets aren't possessions.  if i see two guys making a covert deal (providing i haven't signed any non-disclosure agreements)  I can tell whoever the hell i want





What he said.

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I'm surprised they aren't going after Assange for receiving stolen property.




They won't do that just like they won't prosecute the New York Times, Deutsche Welt, or The Guardian for publishing them.  Leaked secrets are simply not stolen property.  Not by any stretch.  And no court has ever deemed anything of that nature in history.  Once secrets aren't secrets anymore, they no longer have any special status and can be disseminated at will.  Ever heard of the Pentagon Papers?

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