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OfflineNiGGy
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feel rather enlightened. like i know too much.
    #1355112 - 03/06/03 03:15 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

i feel in control of my life now. i understand it. i can play with my life any way i want to. i can play with anybody any way i want to. i have too much power now.

now i could just cruise along with everything all good. but there doesnt seem much reason to. i understand life. what do i do now? live it? but when most people live it, they dont understand it, and thats what makes it work. i feel i know enough right now, that'd if i died right now i'd be satasfied. it couldent be any better.

so what do i do?



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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1355120 - 03/06/03 03:23 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Start over. Break down your ego and learn it all over again. Whenever you think you've learned everything, that's the moment when you should realize you really don't know much at all.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: bert]
    #1355160 - 03/06/03 03:50 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

but now i have to power to mold my ego how i want it. i could be anybody i want. i could be a person now who seems to be fake. who goes along with gossip and shit stirring. i could be the center of turmoil now.
but i could be doing this, unlike the others. i could do this, knowing its fake. as fake is whats keeping us here. people are fake, but they dont see themselves as it. it may not be bad, as its why we exist. and if we were truely real...that we are at death i think. ego, the false enter. its what makes this life work.

ahh im going nuts. i dont know what i can do. it seems many doors are open.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1355212 - 03/06/03 04:18 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Until we all live in peace and happiness, we all got some work to do. There is a change in consciousness going on, and we cannot be picky as to who joins us. Help teach the truth.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1355224 - 03/06/03 04:26 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

If you knew so much, you would hardly be asking others what you should do, now would you?


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1355230 - 03/06/03 04:30 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, you're going nuts...you're experiencing uncomfortable degrees of ego-inflation is what. If you don't have people to do things for, to help, I suggest you volunteer somewhere and get grounded. It's not all about you and what you think you can become. Narcissistic inflation is generally followed by a major 'crash,' just like the myth of Icarus. Be prepared.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1355241 - 03/06/03 04:37 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I know what you mean man, i feel as if i am understanding EVERYTHING, in the last month. Indeed a strange thought!


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: bert]
    #1355243 - 03/06/03 04:38 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

"Start over. Break down your ego and learn it all over again. Whenever you think you've learned everything, that's the moment when you should realize you really don't know much at all."

Yes, your right. Everytime i think i know someting new comes along, and changes it all together.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #1355259 - 03/06/03 04:45 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

yes something may be bad here. narcistic inflation. eep!

now i dont feel like what i posted at all. i feel rather normal again. maybe i need to stop smoking herb.

my mind is crazy, i dont know what to do or think. and i dont know what to do about it.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1355271 - 03/06/03 04:53 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

my mind is boggled. agghh i dont know what to think. narcistic. i am seeming to be that way. ..is it wrong? it doesn't feel wrong. and whos to say its wrong, maybe its just as well a part of life as anything else is.

oh man i dont know. STOP THE MADDDDNESSS!! LOL


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1355425 - 03/06/03 06:29 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

My suggestion is just to chill out, be a bit more humble, smoke a little more herb, and take a nap.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1355674 - 03/06/03 09:25 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with bert...even though it is good to know yourself and what your goals are, do not get to cocky about yourself - that is when the shit will hit the fan.

Smoke a bowl.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: Psilozero]
    #1355707 - 03/06/03 09:52 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

go with the flow. Its the easiest and fastest way to find the way


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: tak_old]
    #1355781 - 03/06/03 11:48 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Yes go with the flow.. you are the controller of your reality, but do not get ahead of yourself. Wisdom is a culmination of life experiences, which lets you perceive subtle aspects of reality that would otherwise go unnoticed. Let your mind become fluid, flexible. Now is the time to spend time with yourself, go within and clear your thoughts. See how long you can just 'be' without trying to prove anything to yourself or ponder the universe, there is plenty of time for that. Integrate your knowledge into one unit of cogitized memory.. that no effort is required to access it, it is instantaneous. Learn to control your mind like a concentrated laser beam, focusing it intently on whatever you want.

Remain humble, you still have more to learn. Seek the answers. If you feel you have mastered a certain aspect of reality, then help others with your knowledge in that area. Meditate for at least 10 minutes a day, focusing on a candle or your inner void. Clear your mind. This is very important.. Learn to ground yourself, and do it frequently. Do it first thing when you wake up, imagine a beam of light shooting from your first chakra, deep down into the center of the Earth. Imagine it changing different colors, blue, green, orange, red, yellow... see how all the different colors have a different effect on you. Pick a color that you think will help you for what you need right now and keep it that color. Ground yourself everytime you are feeling detached. I try and do it three times a day, it really helps. You can do it in a car at 70mph, in line at the grocery store, anywhere.. so there's no reason not to.

Helping other people is what it's all about. At least that's my take.. Once you have knowledge, use it..to manifest your reality and to help others who may not have that same knowledge. Be open and receptive, and use your knowledge with awareness of the eternal love of the universe. You cannot go wrong.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1356470 - 03/07/03 07:32 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I'm happy for you.

Welcome to NOW.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: Shroomism]
    #1356894 - 03/07/03 09:40 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

niggy niggy niggy. :smile:
watch out for the dark side.
did i tell you there was a dark side to enlightenment?
i guess you really cant understand till you taste it.
life is FULL of choices, and its up to you to make the best of the important ones.  its not so complicated that you need your mind to fragment to experience it all similtaneously so you dont miss a beat.  you will make mistakes. as something comes from nothing, perfection comes from error. you learn as you go. make some big mistakes, say some stupid things, put your foot in your mouth. the worst thing that can happen to you now is you may begin to fear the larger world you've found.  you may hide yourself away, or you may try to dominate it, one way or another fear will lead to frustration, anger, hatred, like what yoda said. "LUMINOUS beings are we. not this crude matter"
you live your life indoors. and now you found the exits, not an exit from life, but an escape from shelter/prison
a comfortable ignorance that probably would clothe you well through your whole journey, but you have succeeded in doing what so many just like you could not do.
and its giving you a big head :smile:
its your subconcious minds NATURAL defence against understanding yourself..... it conspires against your jugement it fights you, it tries to confuse you and presents you with puzzles.  eventually you start to suspect some force is out to get you. that someone or something is conspiring to undermind your knowlege.  the ego in essence grows, becomes paranoid, self-preserving in evry aspect, oftentimes afraid to let you (wholly) connect to others for the posibility of losing yourself in evrything.
having lost that fear...... there is nothing else to fear.
for that is the ONLY thing anyone fears. the fear of oblivian. which just doesn't happen.
however if you drive yourself crazy allong the way with fractured thoughts, delusions of granduer, or fear of derpersonalization. (or just drive yourself crazy out of fear of going crazy)
then your entire existance will be spoiled.
heaven and hell are the same place niggs. your mind, you life, the summary of all your memories, perceptions, and deeds manifested similateously in a timeless space (remember "mellow space"?)  you and all your thoughts made one with evryone, evrything and evryone elses thoughts, evrythng will be brought to light. made known.
omniscience.  what is not known will not exist. i KNOW you can already understand THIS premise.  remember however, that it is not nessissarily a beleif you are equipped to practice just yet. unless youre WILLING to abbandon your entire future.  a short life makes for an awfully meek contribution to eternity.
a good, eventful life, lived fully and experienced honestly, felt and shared. is the BEST and ONLY thing you really have the power to create here.
if you have to work and study hard and do well in school to get into university, and be an archetect or a mycologist (i reccomend it) to have money to raise a family and have a good life and have the spare time to give back, invent, teach, mentor, then you make an impact, you grow beyond anything you could ever hope to acheive by just being one man, you become so many, and so many become you in life.
why do you think i try to teach you?
a little bit of me, the best part i can offer, might do you some good and maybe you can do some good for someone else :smile:
dont beleive me? immagine you never met me.....
where would you be today?
and i apoligize for the terror you feel. but i promise you if you stand up to it and be strong, it cannot harm you. it is only fear, and the only thing to fear.
you are already at the point where you can shape your own reality. why not set a goal for a successful life and get motivated in school?  regret is a terrible thing and i regret not knowing what i do now when i was where you are.
i would have done SO well in school, its ALL about your attitude. and if you miss it, your regret will be 3 times worse because you KNOW it.  and i had no idea, i diddnt care and i blamed all the wrong things. i TOTALLY missed it.
now i have less to work with.  that doesnt mean I'm accepting anything less than the best i can get :smile:
you dont have to miss it. go get it. thats all


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1357192 - 03/08/03 03:18 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I know exactly how you feel.  I go through phases like that..

As Markos said, there is always a crash.  that level of awareness is just another trip that you're gonna come down from.

my conclusion is it's not like a collection of data or "how much you know", but it's a state of mind.  And you can't really hold onto a state of mind, it's always gonna be fluctuating with your environment.  There is always new data coming in.

I feel like I am sort of playing with that state of mind right now... trying to balance it out.  Trying not to get my hopes up too high, but I keep giving myself a boost of motivation when I start to feel down again, so I'm just sort of hovering in mild euphoria :smile:

try to ignore the conclusive thoughts.. just let that awareness flow through you, dont latch onto it.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: Grav]
    #1357902 - 03/08/03 10:12 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

"my conclusion is it's not like a collection of data or "how much you know", but it's a state of mind."

I agree and disagree :wink:

I think its more about connections than actually "how much you know." Certainly your state of mind has a lot to do with everything, but I think making connections among the bits of information you already have is very important for understanding yourself and the type of future you may enjoy.

Think of everything as a puzzle with 1000 pieces (yeah i know thats not much..... whatever..). Somebody could have 500 pieces of that puzzle but still have them strewn all over the table, while you could have 250 pieces of the puzzle but have them all locked together, revealing more of the picture than mr-500-pieces can see.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1359517 - 03/09/03 05:00 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Let flow the healing energies of the cosmos.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: Strumpling]
    #1359522 - 03/09/03 05:06 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, but it doesnt matter how many pieces you have when you're not even in the mood to play with them. That's what I mean, when you're sittin there fucking with the pieces you feel really on top of your shit, and not thinking about anything else. Then you decide to go watch TV or something and the puzzle state of mind evaporates.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: Grav]
    #1359611 - 03/09/03 06:24 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

crazyness!! a mind state it was, now, i feel normal and not so crazy. ut then when i get crazy, my ego goes into self protection mode. thats what it is. if that didnt happen, i may have troubles gettin along with reality.... but why does this happen? what in the long term do i get out of it? right now. whoop de he, i feel normal. i dont have thoughts of any thing like what i was saying...just a normal member of society. so whats the point of what happend before, as it was a mindstate i know longer feel the knowledge of. so it was like a conflict with my ego, which my ego won, because if it didn't win, i woulden't be typing this now would i? so then, why go against the grain, why even talk about this. why think like i was thinking?

hmmm


"dont beleive me? immagine you never met me.....
where would you be today?"

those are true words. and i realised that quite awhile ago! pretty damn cool! :smile:



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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1359631 - 03/09/03 06:37 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

don't miss that part about doing well in school


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: Grav]
    #1359991 - 03/09/03 10:34 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

well make sure you actually DO SOMETHING with what you've learned.

You can always fall back on various art styles, like writing (even on message boards) or making visual/audio artworks. You can try and get your friends interested in "deeper" than normal conversation, which turns talking about sports or women or video games or whatever into a kind of collective thinking process which can be pretty fun.. You can try and invent something..

There's a track by Infected Mushroom which has a sample in it that goes something like this:

"The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success."

The geniuses are the thinkers who can actually stand up after an intense "thinking session [heh]" and apply what they were just thinking about to something having to do with everybody else. The "insane" are the thinkers who have problem balancing the thinking with actually DOING something related to the thoughts.... like ME :wink:


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1361641 - 03/10/03 02:01 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Sucks a bit doesn't it...


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: Fliquid]
    #1363870 - 03/10/03 07:14 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I dont think you ever have to worry about knowing to much


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: NiGGy]
    #1363888 - 03/10/03 07:19 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

crazyness!! a mind state it was, now, i feel normal and not so crazy. ut then when i get crazy, my ego goes into self protection mode. thats what it is. if that didnt happen, i may have troubles gettin along with reality.... but why does this happen? what in the long term do i get out of it? right now. whoop de he, i feel normal. i dont have thoughts of any thing like what i was saying...just a normal member of society. so whats the point of what happend before, as it was a mindstate i know longer feel the knowledge of. so it was like a conflict with my ego, which my ego won, because if it didn't win, i woulden't be typing this now would i? so then, why go against the grain, why even talk about this. why think like i was thinking?

hmmm


"dont beleive me? immagine you never met me.....
where would you be today?"

those are true words. and i realised that quite awhile ago! pretty damn cool! :smile:

 




Maybe you are manipulating us and faking the fact that your mindset has changed :shocked:


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: Glacius]
    #1364430 - 03/11/03 02:38 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I've just got to reply to your sig

"wisdom can not be expereince without knowledge, nor can it be knowledge without expereince. Only when both are acquired, can the doors to wisdom be opened"

Yes..my take on it is.. wisdom and knowledge are gained through experience. Through experience comes wisdom. Without experience there can be no wisdom. Life is a series of experiences, through which we gain knowledge and wisdom by learning from our experiences.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: Shroomism]
    #1365025 - 03/11/03 07:33 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Indeed. A realization one must make on this path of wisdom or enlightenment is that one never knows to much. In fact it seems one never knows enough. And when one does, he sooner or later realizes that he knows so little. It is through the discovery of new things that gives us the wisdom that we know so little. Because when one of the doors is opens it leads to ten more.


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Re: feel rather enlightened. like i know too much. [Re: Grav]
    #1365050 - 03/11/03 07:45 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

try to ignore the conclusive thoughts.. just let that awareness flow through you, dont latch onto it.

Ahhh... when you think you've reached a conclusive thought. This has been a pitfall for me lately. You think your on to something and then bam... it stops.. sometimes it stops in the middle of a beautiful dreamworld, and it gives you hope. Other times you stop in the middle of a cold dark void, and it seems like there is no escape. Instead of letting your thoughts pan out endlessly.. your mind is triggered to stop at the void, and not grow anymore...you think you've reached the end.. when you actually just started. you must keep going.. but never put that stamp of approval on it, it only makes things more confusing.


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