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Re: A cube is not a cube. You can't lock this thread. [Re: Masticore]
    #13546104 - 11/26/10 11:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i dont care if i get in shit for this
cause i needs to be said

a fucking ps.cubensis is the same as the next
i dont give a fuck where the fuck its from
it looks the exact same as the last

show me the difference ,
its impossible

and quit saying a cube is like a human different parts of the world differnt physical appearance

wrong  ,

a seagul looks the same everywhere in the world

get used to it , a cubes a cube , becuase if it wasent then it wouldent be a cube

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Re: A cube is not a cube. You can't lock this thread. [Re: Masticore]
    #13546143 - 11/26/10 11:13 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2010/0212042.html
A good read on strains of mushrooms for commercial use... selecting desirable characteristics and identifying genetic components of mushrooms responsible for characteristics.

http://books.google.com/books?id=4dxQSLDZdswC&pg=PA191&lpg=PA191&dq=genetics+and+strains+of+mushrooms&source=bl&ots=SeQXGuLR8R&sig=mlWVsZAmEylmUcYr_dAMU1ykaas&hl=en&ei=VJ3wTOulJIassAOK9vHxCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=genetics%20and%20strains%20of%20mushrooms&f=false
Applied Molecular Genetics and Filamentous Fungi. See page 191-193 for info about strain isolations and genetics

http://www.amazon.com/Genetics-Breeding-Edible-Mushrooms-Chang/dp/2881245617
Genetics and Breeding of Mushrooms. Text/Book

http://www.jbmb.or.kr/jbmb/jbmb_files/%5B35-5%5D0209261651_510.pdf
Genetic Linkage Map of Shiitake

These are just from google searches. Essentially, they all say the same thing. That there are genes responsible for physical characteristics, and that there are indeed unique genes in specific strains. Commercial mushroom farming has paved the way, it seems, for mycologic genetic research.

Why don't some of you read these, or do your own research and discuss it? :winner:

Edited by CaptainAhab (11/26/10 11:16 PM)

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Re: A cube is not a cube. You can't lock this thread. [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #13546207 - 11/26/10 11:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

doesent say shit

a cube is a cube

show me 10 pics of 10 differnt cube 'strains"
and they will all look the same

go ahead , try to let someone guess ,
i bet you anything no one ill ever get more then 1/10

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Re: A cube is not a cube. You can't lock this thread. [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #13546345 - 11/26/10 11:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

CaptainAhab said:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2010/0212042.html
A good read on strains of mushrooms for commercial use... selecting desirable characteristics and identifying genetic components of mushrooms responsible for characteristics.

http://books.google.com/books?id=4dxQSLDZdswC&pg=PA191&lpg=PA191&dq=genetics+and+strains+of+mushrooms&source=bl&ots=SeQXGuLR8R&sig=mlWVsZAmEylmUcYr_dAMU1ykaas&hl=en&ei=VJ3wTOulJIassAOK9vHxCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=genetics%20and%20strains%20of%20mushrooms&f=false
Applied Molecular Genetics and Filamentous Fungi. See page 191-193 for info about strain isolations and genetics

http://www.amazon.com/Genetics-Breeding-Edible-Mushrooms-Chang/dp/2881245617
Genetics and Breeding of Mushrooms. Text/Book

http://www.jbmb.or.kr/jbmb/jbmb_files/%5B35-5%5D0209261651_510.pdf
Genetic Linkage Map of Shiitake

These are just from google searches. Essentially, they all say the same thing. That there are genes responsible for physical characteristics, and that there are indeed unique genes in specific strains. Commercial mushroom farming has paved the way, it seems, for mycologic genetic research.

Why don't some of you read these, or do your own research and discuss it? :winner:




i'm sorry, you fail at providing any data on chemical makeup change influenced by genetics :shrug:

stop trolling, you seem like you never even taken mendelian genetics in high school, if you did, you would know better.

BTW, i can even think of some movie that has that same line you keep using 'it's all genetics'... that's a dumb interpretation of a scientific theory.


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Re: A cube is not a cube. You can't lock this thread. [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #13546430 - 11/27/10 12:21 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

CaptainAhab said:
Quote:

Synocybin said:

I've noticed that a cube is generally a cube unless its B+, then its some random, blue staining, poop mushie that doesnt produce any active chems at all.

but thats my .02




What exactly are you saying about B+?




lol my last two grows with B+ were very good, flushwise.. but as far as dosage i did 9 dry g. and literally nothing happened.  which was odd because i've always enjoyed them before but one grow, they just quit being good..

i've had similar doses of other "strains" since and had good xp but those last couple grows of B+ will haunt me forever as to why..


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Its been 4weeks since i cased what is going on?
i used human manure(mine) vermiculite and coco coir

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Re: A cube is not a cube. You can't lock this thread. [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #13546459 - 11/27/10 12:27 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

brshroomer said:
Quote:

CaptainAhab said:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2010/0212042.html
A good read on strains of mushrooms for commercial use... selecting desirable characteristics and identifying genetic components of mushrooms responsible for characteristics.

http://books.google.com/books?id=4dxQSLDZdswC&pg=PA191&lpg=PA191&dq=genetics+and+strains+of+mushrooms&source=bl&ots=SeQXGuLR8R&sig=mlWVsZAmEylmUcYr_dAMU1ykaas&hl=en&ei=VJ3wTOulJIassAOK9vHxCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=genetics%20and%20strains%20of%20mushrooms&f=false
Applied Molecular Genetics and Filamentous Fungi. See page 191-193 for info about strain isolations and genetics

http://www.amazon.com/Genetics-Breeding-Edible-Mushrooms-Chang/dp/2881245617
Genetics and Breeding of Mushrooms. Text/Book

http://www.jbmb.or.kr/jbmb/jbmb_files/%5B35-5%5D0209261651_510.pdf
Genetic Linkage Map of Shiitake

These are just from google searches. Essentially, they all say the same thing. That there are genes responsible for physical characteristics, and that there are indeed unique genes in specific strains. Commercial mushroom farming has paved the way, it seems, for mycologic genetic research.

Why don't some of you read these, or do your own research and discuss it? :winner:




i'm sorry, you fail at providing any data on chemical makeup change influenced by genetics :shrug:

stop trolling, you seem like you never even taken mendelian genetics in high school, if you did, you would know better.

BTW, i can even think of some movie that has that same line you keep using 'it's all genetics'... that's a dumb interpretation of a scientific theory.




Epic fail. What part about genetics and genes producing ALL components of a living system (including all chemicals) don't you understand? Or is it that chemicals just materialize out of thin air? God you don't even know that you don't know. Get out of the knowledge hole while you can. Go read a book

EDIT: Here's more of the fail boat procession following you out of the building:

"genes that produce the natural chemical..." http://www.redpathaghort.com/bulletins/PlantProducedHerbicide.html

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Stressed_plants_produce_aspirin-like_chemical

"Plants Engineered to Produce New Drugs"
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101103141533.htm

Dude, I could go on. But I'm hoping you get the point.


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Re: A cube is not a cube. You can't lock this thread. [Re: Synocybin]
    #13546491 - 11/27/10 12:33 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Synocybin said:
Quote:

CaptainAhab said:
Quote:

Synocybin said:

I've noticed that a cube is generally a cube unless its B+, then its some random, blue staining, poop mushie that doesnt produce any active chems at all.

but thats my .02




What exactly are you saying about B+?




lol my last two grows with B+ were very good, flushwise.. but as far as dosage i did 9 dry g. and literally nothing happened.  which was odd because i've always enjoyed them before but one grow, they just quit being good..

i've had similar doses of other "strains" since and had good xp but those last couple grows of B+ will haunt me forever as to why..




Hmm... that's funny. The B+ I had a year or two back was the best, to me. Definitely the best "feeling" trip.


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Re: A cube is not a cube. You can't lock this thread. [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #13546503 - 11/27/10 12:37 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

CaptainAhab said:
Quote:

Synocybin said:
Quote:

CaptainAhab said:
Quote:

Synocybin said:

I've noticed that a cube is generally a cube unless its B+, then its some random, blue staining, poop mushie that doesnt produce any active chems at all.

but thats my .02




What exactly are you saying about B+?




lol my last two grows with B+ were very good, flushwise.. but as far as dosage i did 9 dry g. and literally nothing happened.  which was odd because i've always enjoyed them before but one grow, they just quit being good..

i've had similar doses of other "strains" since and had good xp but those last couple grows of B+ will haunt me forever as to why..




Hmm... that's funny. The B+ I had a year or two back was the best, to me. Definitely the best "feeling" trip.




i agree that when they worked they had great body buzz.. like someone dropped a heavy weight across your body...but the visuals were lacking..

it just completely caught me off one day i ate those 9g and two hours later was pissed becuase nothing was happening.. then i kept waiting and waiting for it to happen and it never did..

:shrug:


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i used human manure(mine) vermiculite and coco coir

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Re: A cube is not a cube. You can't lock this thread. [Re: Doc_T]
    #13546513 - 11/27/10 12:42 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
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Prisoner#1 said: your map




It's from Wikipedia, we could find out where it is sourced from. Could be an old document.
And/or some Shroomerite could update it.

And what's with African cubes? Aren't they an introduced species in cattle country? Or native?
Anybody know?





they're probably there in several nations it's just that no one has
discovered them, and it's stupid to use a distribution map in the
argument anyway

now for those that have said the thread should be closed, this one isnt
asking 'is strain A better than strain B' which is typical of strain
discussion



ok ahab
I'm a human, my neighbor is human and we both have DNA, crazy as it
sounds his DNA while similar to mine is not the same, does that mean one
of us is actually not a human? my mtDNA is is differnt from his which is
how we can tell that my family is more directly decendant of asians than his



a cube is a cube is a cube, there's a reason they have different strain
names and that's because of the minor taxonomic differences which leads
one to wonder why we dont call people by different varieties.... you
know, like asian, caucasian, african, etc... do we run around saying
that blacks or asians are inferior to caucasions? no, because that would
be racist, are you a racist trying to imply that B+ is somehow inferior
to penis envy because that would be too


not to mention that even within the same flush, as was mentioned
earlier, that fruiting bodies can in fact have varying potency

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Re: A cube is not a cube. You can't lock this thread. [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #13546526 - 11/27/10 12:47 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

water is approx. 70% of any living organism and is not produced by genetics :shrug:

nor is any salt, metal, etc.

actually, genetics don't dictate everything. if you manipulate a substrate you can change what the organism produces, that is exploited commercially in fermentation of specific compounds, such as for GABA production, and for best production of drug crops, by augmentation the quantity of a certain compound in the soil or inducing it's deficiency

genetics are a part of it, but not all, 'phenotype is the genotipic expression in a given ambient'

but that discussion deviates from your previous statement, you said that there are different chemicals in different cubensis 'strains', which you said alter the effects. so please, enlighten me, how do they alter the effects? :shrug:

it's not our(the other contributing posters in this thread) job to disprove your theory, it's your job to prove it. and so far you did nothing, only insult me and others. i never did insult you, did i?

i like books, thank you for the advice.:thumbup: anything in particular you want to recommend?


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Re: A cube is not a cube. You can't lock this thread. [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #13546530 - 11/27/10 12:47 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

Reason:
ok... you've managed to change my mind at the point that you start the
conspiracy theories arguments of buy the book and then we'll talk

Quote:

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These are just from google searches. Essentially, they all say the same thing. That there are genes responsible for physical characteristics, and that there are indeed unique genes in specific strains. Commercial mushroom farming has paved the way, it seems, for mycologic genetic research.

Why don't some of you read these, or do your own research and discuss it? :winner:



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