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Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation
    #13545783 - 11/26/10 09:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Does anyone here have any experience with this species? I finally got some growing on straight, fresh maple wood chips and was wondering if this had been done before? If so, any tips to improve the mycelium growth? I know this species is fairly difficult to work with, so any tips would be appreciated. :cheers:


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    #13545792 - 11/26/10 09:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: JonnyS]
    #13545812 - 11/26/10 09:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Bout two weeks after spraying with a spore solution.


Two days after the previous pics. (Today)


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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: NeoSporen]
    #13547190 - 11/27/10 07:56 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Only P. baeocystis is the exception.  They all like the same outdoor environment but baeocystis does poorly on fresh wood.  I've had some marginal success planting out fully colonized sterile horse manure.  It is the most challenging Psilocybe species I have worked with so far.




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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: stonesun]
    #13548051 - 11/27/10 12:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Only P. baeocystis is the exception.  They all like the same outdoor environment but baeocystis does poorly on fresh wood.  I've had some marginal success planting out fully colonized sterile horse manure.  It is the most challenging Psilocybe species I have worked with so far.




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This just confuses me even more. If it does so poorly on wood, why is mine doing so well on wood chips? I am 100% positive this is baeocystis mycelium. You can even see small little rhizomorphs in the bottom left corner in the last picture. It's becoming very agressive. Just looking for some advice on this species. I'm gonna keep this species growing on wood chips, just as an experiment. But it's doing very well!


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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: NeoSporen]
    #13548067 - 11/27/10 12:40 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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If it does so poorly on wood, why is mine doing so well on wood chips?





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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: NeoSporen] * 1
    #13548074 - 11/27/10 12:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Well, maybe by "does poorly on fresh wood" Workman means that
it FRUITS poorly on it even though colonization is good/average.
Just speculating here:shrug:


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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: k00laid]
    #13548103 - 11/27/10 12:51 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, What Koolaid said. How can you be 100% sure. 100% is an extremely strong statement. Especially when your substrate has clearly not been sterilized.

You could very likely have many many different varieties of outdoor fungus growing in there. Fungus spores/tissue etc of unrelated species that was carried into your substrate on the moss, dirt, woodchips etc.

It could be the species you are after. But could also be a different species growing there. Nobody should be 100% sure of anything, especially when they have allowed so many possible avenues of contamination.


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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: NeoSporen]
    #13548129 - 11/27/10 12:59 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Bout two weeks after spraying with a spore solution.




Hmmm.


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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: Lakotis]
    #13548144 - 11/27/10 01:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

quote]Lakotis said:
Yeah, What Koolaid said. How can you be 100% sure. 100% is an extremely strong statement. Especially when your substrate has clearly not been sterilized.

You could very likely have many many different varieties of outdoor fungus growing in there. Fungus spores/tissue etc of unrelated species that was carried into your substrate on the moss, dirt, woodchips etc.

It could be the species you are after. But could also be a different species growing there. Nobody should be 100% sure of anything, especially when they have allowed so many possible avenues of contamination.





Very true. I guess I should have chosen my words a bit more carefully. In retrospect, the chips were boiled for about 1 1/2 hours, and soaked in a very mild bleach solution and cleaned before spraying, so no, they are not 100% sterile, but when it was started, it was probably pretty close to that.

I appreciate all the answers, but it seems that I will not find what I was looking for (which was just some tips on making the mycelium healthier and stronger). Data collection is in progress, and will be published in the end, if it's a success. thanks for the help everyone.


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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: NeoSporen]
    #13548158 - 11/27/10 01:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I hope you'll succeed:thumbup:
I'd love to see a successful cultivation of this Psilocybe species.


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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: stonesun]
    #13549226 - 11/27/10 05:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I hope you'll succeed:thumbup:
I'd love to see a successful cultivation of this Psilocybe species.





Thanks for the kind words. I hope to see this species cultivated more in the near future.


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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: NeoSporen]
    #13549254 - 11/27/10 05:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: NeoSporen]
    #13549392 - 11/27/10 05:58 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I think it will do much better on partially decomposed wood because it is a sublignicolous species similar to P. aztecorum.

I would go with sterilised sawdust inoculated with a clean grain culture, when the sterile sawdust is fully colonised use it to spawn to a mixture of partly decomposed conifer chips and potting mix made up of decomposed bark, peat, compost and pumice in an outdoor bed, no need to sterilise or pasteurise the final substrate.


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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: inski]
    #13549407 - 11/27/10 06:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I think it will do much better on partially decomposed wood because it is a sublignicolous species similar to P. aztecorum.

I would go with sterilised sawdust inoculated with a clean grain culture, when the sterile sawdust is fully colonised use it to spawn to a mixture of partly decomposed conifer chips and potting mix made up of decomposed bark, peat, compost and pumice in an outdoor bed, no need to sterilise or pasteurise the final substrate.




Thanks inski. You always give good help and info.:super:


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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: NeoSporen]
    #13549411 - 11/27/10 06:04 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Good luck:thumbup:


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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: inski]
    #13572338 - 12/02/10 09:19 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I saw my name mentioned so I'll chime in with a little additional information.  I think the problem isn't entirely that P. baeocystis doesn't do well on wood, but that it doesn't do well on sterile substrates.  It grows slowly and thinly on sterile agar, sterile wood and sterile compost.  But I did notice that when I placed fully colonized sterile horse manure compost outside, the area of contact with the soil soon formed thick rhizomorphs, which fruited soon after.  It is still a tricky species.  I remember reading an older journal article by Paul Stamets that mentioned that he had no records of Psilocybe baeocystis ever being grow indoors.  Which almost certainly means he was trying with no success.


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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: Workman]
    #13575524 - 12/02/10 10:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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I saw my name mentioned so I'll chime in with a little additional information.  I think the problem isn't entirely that P. baeocystis doesn't do well on wood, but that it doesn't do well on sterile substrates.  It grows slowly and thinly on sterile agar, sterile wood and sterile compost.  But I did notice that when I placed fully colonized sterile horse manure compost outside, the area of contact with the soil soon formed thick rhizomorphs, which fruited soon after.  It is still a tricky species.  I remember reading an older journal article by Paul Stamets that mentioned that he had no records of Psilocybe baeocystis ever being grow indoors.  Which almost certainly means he was trying with no success.





Thanks for the info Workman. Always good to hear from ya. Things are going quite nicely. Don't wanna release too much of what I have learned, yet, but I agree with you on the fact of it not doing too well on sterile substrates :wink: Will post some updates once I feel the time is right. :cheers:


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Re: Psilocybe baeocystis cultivation [Re: NeoSporen]
    #13639982 - 12/15/10 11:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

A few more pictures from today. About 6+ weeks into the experiment.
 


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    #13640004 - 12/16/10 12:02 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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