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OfflineI AM SWIM
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breakthroughs
    #13536049 - 11/24/10 03:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

There is no breakthrough.

How do you break through infinity?

well i don't believe in breakthroughs. :shrug:


I think you either experience that you are the entire universe or you don't.


Breakthroughs are just a silly term that mis-represents the experience?


WHat do you think?


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Re: breakthroughs [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #13536130 - 11/24/10 03:57 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

don't know. Breakthrough does seem to imply a on/off or yes/no binary distinction at some level. I kinda like what you say about reality being infinite...

though, at the same time, we can talk about ego loss, which is kind of a on/off yes/no thing as well, either it keeps hold of you, or it lets go.

*shrugs*


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Re: breakthroughs [Re: caradoc]
    #13536151 - 11/24/10 04:00 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

well... with lower doses you pretty much stay in your body, in your outside surroundings just really happening...

Where as take a larger dose and either break through a veil (or multiple veils) and emerge out into some other space, like "breaking through a veil (or veils)" into some other place....

Or you might just take that same breakthrough dose and experience no breakthrough whatsoever, no travel, nothing your just completely elsewhere with no transition.

:confused:

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Re: breakthroughs [Re: JohnP]
    #13536175 - 11/24/10 04:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Your abilities to perceive and observe "break through" the barriers put in place by a sober mind.

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Re: breakthroughs [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #13536887 - 11/24/10 06:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Just like with salvia and amanita muscaria there is a very specific dose with DMT that suddenly seems to teleport you into another dimension. Right before you breakthrough, there usually isn't any indication that it's about to happen. You're just tripping really hard and then BOOM, you're flying through space. Breakthroughs are very real.


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Re: breakthroughs [Re: Space Elf]
    #13536998 - 11/24/10 07:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The thing is that the word "breakthrough" fits so damn well to encapsulate the kind of experience one gets after certain threshold of dmt.

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