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redtailedhawk
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How do different cubensis strains differentiate themselves regarding their effects?
#13534135 - 11/24/10 08:05 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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A good friend of mine is planning to start growing P. Cubensis soon, and he was wondering how do different cubensis strains differentiate themselves regarding their effects?
I know there are many general descriptions here on Shroomery regarding different strains, but I could not find anything that would describe the differences in effect when consumed? Would anybody be so kind to share their experiences in this area?
Muchos gracias!
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Hamurabi
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Re: How do different cubensis strains differentiate themselves regarding their effects? [Re: redtailedhawk]
#13534140 - 11/24/10 08:08 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Most people say a cube is a cube meaning that there aren't differences. I am on the other side, i believe there are differences. But dont except to listen to the opinions of many people who agree. Everyone will say something different.
The best for you is to test lots of strains in the same set and setting stuff and make your own opinion
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Re: How do different cubensis strains differentiate themselves regarding their effects? [Re: redtailedhawk]
#13534142 - 11/24/10 08:08 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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No differences. More info here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10560039
(Potency is in large part genetic, but that does not correspond to the strain name.) (PE is different.)
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anonjon
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Re: How do different cubensis strains differentiate themselves regarding their effects? [Re: Doc_T]
#13534238 - 11/24/10 08:51 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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There's really only one drug in there, so it can't be different by strain.
There are some other species that do have different drugs in them and can therefore affect you differently. Baeocystin (sp?) and serotonin come to mind.
Unless one day they discover that penis envy is producing something weird that makes it so strong
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Hamurabi
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Re: How do different cubensis strains differentiate themselves regarding their effects? [Re: anonjon]
#13534252 - 11/24/10 08:54 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well yes that's for sure. Panaeolus cyanescens for example give a very different trip from cubes. And i can;t describe with words how perfect it is. If you want to try something different go with different species like panaeolus.
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Re: How do different cubensis strains differentiate themselves regarding their effects? [Re: Hamurabi]
#13534267 - 11/24/10 08:59 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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pan cyan is one of the serotonin producers, no? serotonin is the actual neurotransmitter, where psilocybin is different by an OH molecule. So yeah, it's truly the perfect drug. ...er next to dmt neway...
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Re: How do different cubensis strains differentiate themselves regarding their effects? [Re: anonjon]
#13534278 - 11/24/10 09:02 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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anonjon said: There's really only one drug in there, so it can't be different by strain.
There are some other species that do have different drugs in them and can therefore affect you differently. Baeocystin (sp?) and serotonin come to mind.
Cubes have a range of alkaloids, I've always figured that affected the actual subjective experience. But I sure can't prove it.
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doses
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Re: How do different cubensis strains differentiate themselves regarding their effects? [Re: Hamurabi]
#13534297 - 11/24/10 09:08 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hamurabi said: Panaeolus cyanescens for example give a very different trip from cubes. And i can;t describe with words how perfect it is. If you want to try something different go with different species like panaeolus.
Sadly, it's been suggested that this is due to a neurotoxin. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13222715/fpart/1/vc/1
People usually say that all cubes are the same, and they're probably right. I think, like with some weed strains, people perceive the differing effects between higher or lower doses to be different in a qualitative way as well. Which is to say, they think the "highs" are different because of the difference in potency.
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Re: How do different cubensis strains differentiate themselves regarding their effects? [Re: doses]
#13534323 - 11/24/10 09:15 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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doses, the link you posted i think that is reffering to Psilocybe Cyanescens and not the Panaeolus Cyanescens which i 'm talking about.
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doses
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Re: How do different cubensis strains differentiate themselves regarding their effects? [Re: Hamurabi]
#13534412 - 11/24/10 09:40 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hamurabi said: doses, the link you posted i think that is reffering to Psilocybe Cyanescens and not the Panaeolus Cyanescens which i 'm talking about.
Oh, you're probably right. I don't know jack about species other than cubes.
I never knew there were two cyanescens species, that's pretty inconvenient.
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Re: How do different cubensis strains differentiate themselves regarding their effects? [Re: redtailedhawk]
#13534438 - 11/24/10 09:40 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: There's a sticky strain thread for these questions and bogus answers.
Strain is actually 'everything' when it comes to potency and effects, but since we're not allowed to trade mycelium, then all discussion is null and void. A sporeprint or spore syringe does not constitute a strain. A strain is a pairing of compatible hyphae from two spores, thus prints and syringes sold as 'strains' are simply marketing. That's why we very accurately say a cube is a cube. RR
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