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Ryche Hawk
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Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going
#1353280 - 03/05/03 06:14 PM (21 years, 19 days ago) |
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I've been doing some thinking (as the sweat rolls off my forehead) As some spore vendors are going to be pulling out of the spores business soon that will mean less income coming in to the Shroomery to pay for this expensive server and hosting fees etc..
Obviously none of us want to see the Shroomery close down because the bills cant be paid. So something should be done soon before that time comes.
My thoughts are is maybe 3DShroom should open the Shroomery up to other advertising ventures other then just counter culture businesses.
Perhaps not charge as much since these other businesses wont be getting there normal targeted audience..but at least its exposure for them. The Shroomery does get a lot of traffic.
I personally would put a banner here for the new business I'm working on with a friend since anyone that parties will enjoy it
But with Ralphster leaving, and The Hawks Eye not to far behind the shroomery will lose a big chunk of its normal supporting revenues soon.
Its better to start working on it now rather then wait until it happens. So I guess I'm asking the community how they would all feel about this. Obviously banner ads can be annoying.. especially those pop up ones that never shut down.. but I think everyone should be willing to accept some non-mushroom banners to help ensure the survival of The Shroomery.
3D..Anno... mods.. any suggestions.. comments... thoughts...??
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Thor
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#1354612 - 03/06/03 09:05 AM (21 years, 18 days ago) |
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Hey Ryche Yeah there is some discussion going on between the admins on the future funding for the site.
I would love to hear more ideas and suggestions as to what we can do because you are right the loss of a few more vendors and we are going to have to look at some other ideas for funding.
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pussycontrol
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im about to cry, we cant see this happen.
if there something us little people could do let us know. if it comes down to it charge kids a few bucks a month to access. id pay for this place.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#1355358 - 03/06/03 03:48 PM (21 years, 18 days ago) |
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I dont think commecializing the shroomery is the answer.. though I dont have a better idea.
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Ryche Hawk
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I really dont think its that simple pussycontrol. In the past whenever The Shroomery has asked for donations or help from its members many ppl have just flamed the hell out of the admins. Its usually the vendors, and a few generous individuals, and the admins themself putting up the money to keep it afloat. Of course a few raffles along the way helped as well.
Although it wouldn't be a bad idea to have the members pay a subscription to the shroomery. Say $2 a month.. or just a flat fee of $20 a year. Doesn't sound like much but with as many active posters here that can certainly add up. Enough to pay the bills anyway. Pornsites do this all the time.. they have subscriptions set up through ...cough cough.. choke... PayPal, where its just a monthly reaccuring subscription. PayPal is not the only one... there are plenty of other companies out there. In fact PayPal is the last one I would recommend to handle The Shroomery's subscriptions.
Another good perspecitive about that is it will keep the kids away..since most of them dont have access to checking accounts or credit cards, or paypal accounts. Age verification is done through most all services like this through your checking account or CC card.
Ok.. just throwing out ideas. Anyone...feel free to jump in at any time
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Waldarbeiter
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#1356105 - 03/07/03 02:50 AM (21 years, 17 days ago) |
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You should start a poll what the shroomers like for example video games etc. then make video game ads etc.
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Alien
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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#1356119 - 03/07/03 02:57 AM (21 years, 17 days ago) |
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I remember the site having those type of ads back when Aphex was here. That was when the site really first went commercial as I recall.
When 3D and Thor came in they took the sex and non-related ads out and brought in only related advertising.
It was a strange time when Apex had those type of ads here, but if it has to be done...
Also, I would like to add that I feel you guys will be back when you realize PF got busted for having a full instructional book and selling the spores. Seed banks in Canada do not sell mj growing books. You cannot do both. People like sporeworks who have kept the product as is without instruction will be fine.
I suggest removing any teks from your site, sell the spores and blanket the site with edibles. Have pictures of big ass edibles and then slide the psilos into the inventory stock. I think all will be well if you follow those rules.
The subscription idea has been run through before and works to an extent. Most of the die hards will contribute, but many wont and it may hinder the site slowly but surely. The main ingredient is to get good advertising that a site with free traffic is exposed to in my opinion.
Thanks for listening and keep the spirit Ryche.
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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
#1357210 - 03/08/03 01:41 AM (21 years, 17 days ago) |
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How much traffic are we talking for the shroomery?I have several web servers I may wish to donate some space if need be, If someone would contact me with the info I would be glad to help.
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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
#1357238 - 03/08/03 02:24 AM (21 years, 16 days ago) |
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i personally think that, if this site needs money to be up and running, that people should pay a yearly fee, not a monthly fee. but they should be able to use other forms of payment other than paypal....some people dont have access to credit cards either.......
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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
#1357294 - 03/08/03 03:11 AM (21 years, 16 days ago) |
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it is hard to say what exactly needs to be done. ive always thought this place was too good to be true. , once i looked around on here the next day i could EASILY figure out what to do and that just shows that anyone can do it with a little thinking.
im not sure how there gonna pull off staying open , we can run an enforced donation party which states people must "dontate" to get in the door, or at least thats what we do for venues weve rented to throw partys~. thinking?
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Cow Shit Collector
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Maybe Make a shroomery store. Sell supplies, mushroom housewares, clothing, whatever. That would more than keep this place afloat if done correctly. I wouldn't make any kind of fee to get into the shroomery, just because it would detur newcommers.
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Well, I plan on starting a edible culture business in the near future. Right now I'm just perfecting my products and trying to get everything in order.
No worries shroomery, I'll be your next vendor/sponsor! .
Good luck, and long live the Shroomery, daba
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Ryche Hawk
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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
#1378543 - 03/15/03 01:50 PM (21 years, 9 days ago) |
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Good to see your still around Alien. One of our old school members that has contributed a lot over the years
Yeah the more I think about it perhaps a subscription up front is not such a good idea. It would detour a lot of ppl from visiting. But perhaps a limieted part of the website to non subscription paying members would work. As the shroomery has now... a few forums open to annon surfers. From what I read that was done because those annon surfers not logging was taking up most of the memory resources slowing the shroomery down.
So that is perahps and idea.... keep a few limeted forums open for free surfers. But perhaps charge a flat rate $20 a year for your membership. I can see where other means of payment are necesseary. Even those over 18 without checking accounts need other ways to pay. Not everyone has good credit and may not have access to PayPal and other such accounts. Money orders or cash may be best for some. Perhaps if a photocopy of an ID could be mailed in with payment, showing they are over 18+, (name and address could be blacked out) just to set up there account. Once again.. just an idea.
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Ryche Hawk
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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
#1378554 - 03/15/03 02:03 PM (21 years, 9 days ago) |
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Yeah I remember for a while when other ads, non counture culture businesses were around. BAnners are not bad as long as they are not those pop up banners that it takes shutting down your PC to get rid of
BTW, anyone know how to get rid of those? The only thing I have found is to this CNTL + ALT + DEL and and select END TASK When the windows Task Manager comes up. That works for some ads anyway.
3D, Anno..Thor, other mods... certainly you guys must have some thoughts how you want to continue funding this place.
I personally would like to see the shroomery move to Canada. The U.S. laws are getting so rediculous its better to play it safe then sorry. THE would be happy to donate some money for that move as I'm sure other vendors that actually care about the shroomery's existance and not just the quick buck would do so as well.
As well all the members here... if you want to see the shroomery stay safe and keep enjoying this place perhaps its time we all pitched in again to help move the server.
Even though we are still dropping off the spore vendor supplier businesses, Its alwasy been first most important to me that the information of these mushrooms is spread around the world for those who seek their gift. I still want to be a part of helping the shroomery survive. But I think safety needs to be addresses as well as the monthly hosting bill.
And yes.. for those that dont know this place is very costly to run. The owners make very little prophit if any to keep it afloat. Its been that way for years. Its been a free forum for so long and I hope it stays that way,,, but something needs to be done soon to ensure the survival of The Shroomery.
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Alien
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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#1382887 - 03/17/03 05:12 AM (21 years, 7 days ago) |
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I think it would be a good idea to move the server to Canada also. As long as they don't get itchy over there about a mushroom site, but with my limited knowledge I still can see they let a lot more go by that the US. With Ashcroft in, we may see times get even worse.
I wonder how companies like Homestead make it without much notice? I just remembered they sell books and a kit to grow them.
I think many here would help on a server move, may be one sure way of securing the future of the site.
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FocusHawaii
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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
#1383093 - 03/17/03 06:29 AM (21 years, 7 days ago) |
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Moving it to canada would be a good idea, but also slower for you americans . But Alien is right there is ALOT more drug flexibility up here. Unless you are growing a Mass quantite of something it is basically "Smash they lights, and take the stuff" and a fat 1000 Dollar Fine.
On the other hand. It would be a LONG process and it would be expensive and so on. You would have to be willing to do alot to get this server in canada.
(Just my 2 cents)
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DazedSol
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#1384227 - 03/17/03 11:54 AM (21 years, 7 days ago) |
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Hmmm......I trust most if not all of the admins.....but I wouldnt be to hot about giving vital banking,ccard info, or even full name and address to join a site 'like this'......And certainly if i had just stumbled upon the site, and was asked for money to join, something like that just wouldnt sit well with me.....dunno.....gotta be catious this day in age.....
Even if we went through a third party to do the billing stuff(like a pornsite or whatever does,with veritol or cbill or the like)...whats to stop the billing company to turn on us(like the paypal shite)??
I wish there was an easy way......
Maybe auctions? From members to members? People put stuff up to auction, send payment to admin then the other party sends winnings?
Hmmmmmmmmmm ????
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Ryche Hawk
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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
#1384530 - 03/17/03 01:21 PM (21 years, 7 days ago) |
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Homestead stopped selling those spore/mushroom/compost kits after PF's bust. He was afraid he was next and pulled them all.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#1390539 - 03/19/03 06:13 AM (21 years, 5 days ago) |
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we could make some shroomery t-shirts for sale, that would bring money and advertisement for the shroomery. i know id buy a shroomery t-shirt.
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Alien
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Psychoslut]
#1391454 - 03/19/03 11:08 AM (21 years, 5 days ago) |
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http://www.cafeshops.com/shroomery
One of these days I am landing one of those mugs and a mousepad. I just hope the company that seels the stuff for this site is discreet
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daussaulit
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Alien]
#1394142 - 03/20/03 04:02 AM (21 years, 4 days ago) |
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ok, please don't flame me for this, but I do enjoy the site and I would probably send money to keep this website going. However, since a few vendors have left, this can only mean more business for current vendors that aren't leaving. They would be making more money, thus can send more money to the shroomery. I know its not a nice thing to say, but would it work?
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Azmodeus
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: daussaulit]
#1394701 - 03/20/03 06:59 AM (21 years, 4 days ago) |
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I wouldn't pay to use this site, but the t-shirts, rafel, etc. all seem like good ideas. I also support moving the server to canada and although would not pay for a membership would donate for such a move or to help the shroomery if they need it.
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chillywilly
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Alien]
#1482731 - 04/22/03 02:32 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have read this posting and will offer my 2 cents worth. I see that the Free spore rings all ask for a dollar as a handling charge which is very reasonable, why not up it to 2 dollars and have the extra buck flow back to Shroomery?
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Thor
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: chillywilly]
#1483030 - 04/22/03 03:45 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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To be perfectly honest things like T-shirts etc are not much money for the shroomery. Say each shirt made $5 for the shroomery; then you would need to sell at least 100 a month to just pay the bills.
Raffles are a good idea, maybe have one or two a year to help the shroomery buy upgrades to the server and various misc expenses that a big site like this faces.
Donations are a non issue since they are a dismal failure in supporting any websites.
I think unless there is something totally radical in thinking that comes up; the shroomery would have to rely on advertising and maybe occasional raffles to keep it going.
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resin
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Thor]
#1484194 - 04/22/03 08:53 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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How about you get us shroomerites to send 1 print every 6 months to use this site. or find a way to get a steady supply of prints. The site itself could sell spore syringes and make the money. Why not make a shroomery spore vendor? Who would do it? Or am I stoned and this is bad idea?
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Paid
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: resin]
#1485189 - 04/23/03 02:40 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Considering spore vendors in the us are being shut down, i would say its a bad idear.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: resin]
#1485262 - 04/23/03 04:08 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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your stoned....Combinations of things are ideal...private contributions can play a vital role, as well as from vendors. the donation/banner may not help greatly for the monthly sales figures, but what does is relationships you can build with a vendor on a one to one level.
Raffles and the like can help, say 1 dollar entry for a chance at a syringe donated by one of the vendors, a bag of grain or 10 spawn bags...any thing that will increase revenue...I have 4 cases of petri dishes and 10kg of agar, I could misplace some in the direction of the shroomery in an effort to aid in funding. and possibly even write it off on taxes.
Merchandising could also...like a t-shirt, with a molecule of psilicybin, several variations, one hand drawn as it wouild have been in a researchers journal, a 3d version.....place a caption on it like...'it's time to meet my little friend'.....peopel would wonder and with a little well placed marketing, you could see sales sky rocket...just make sure the pics arent under copyright and slap a little shroomery.org label at the bottom....wakling billboards
I donated $100 to the Phil Zimmerman defense fund, I was given a really cool tshirt with the RSA algorithm that gave a warning about imprisonment for reading the shirt....it was cool and every one wanted one
I got tons of ideas...I gotta keep some for myself though....I' still trying to work at the multimillionare status....not there yet...but when I break the $50 mark....I know I'm on my way...
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: resin]
#1485297 - 04/23/03 04:55 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's how they got PF.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: resin]
#1485364 - 04/23/03 07:05 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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certainly making the shroomery a pay site will deter new comers, however!
knowledge of the sacred mushroom spreads fast through word of mouth and even though the advantage of people drifting into the shroomery may be gone, perhaps somehow word of the shroomery being legit and worthwhile to pay for will spread fast through word of mouth as well.
i would pay a yearly fee for the non-stop flow of info and support i get from this site. Look at those MMORPG's, i used to play the realm and it was 50$ a year, for a 2d rpg game that allowed me to chat and interact with people in a fantasy land, 50 bucks a year for something I CAN'T apply to my daily life, something not nearly as worthwhile as the shroomery.
maybe slowed traffic wouldn't be so bad, it may reduce the risk of some concerned parent stumbling into this site and "doing the right thing" by going public and/or reporting it to the authorities. I wouldn't doubt if it has already happened.
I activly recruit people to this undergroud "scene" if you will, and i teach people one on one how to do it all, and in turn i have seen them do the same,
regardless survival is #1 at this point.
-odh-
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: ODhaze]
#1488756 - 04/24/03 08:47 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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raffles can make good money. we raised $1000 at mycotopia last october in one, paid our server bills for a year with extra left. a site as large as shroomery could undoubtedly make much more.
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Red_White_and_Brainwashed
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Hippie3]
#1493593 - 04/25/03 02:28 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I haven't read the entire post so forgive me if this has been mentioned...but. If we have non-myco related advertising will this bring unwanted attention to the shroomery? I don't think it's a good idea to give anyone outside of the drug culture a reason to be here.
Thanks,
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psyl0
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i just couldn't believe it when i found this site, it's the best resource available. i'd be willing to pay for it. maybe, to not deter any newbies, there could be a a very small fee for trial access to the site, like 2-5 days or something. i personally would be willing to donate to this site to keep it going. payment would be tricky though, because then there would be records somewhere of (real) names, e-mail addys, and street addresses. i also think moving it onto canadian servers would be in the best interest. as i recently shut down my website selling glass pipes now that ASScroft is around.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Alien]
#1495339 - 04/26/03 04:12 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sell shrooms and sporeprints but only the edible kind. Nothing illegal about that or gather all or most of the collective knowlage and sell the Shroomery Ebook guide to magic mushrooms and give credit to the people who first made the posts that you used such as Chapter1 PF TEK and how it all began,Chapter 2 Hippie3 and the magic of invitro,Chapter4 Chronic007's Quart jar terranium TEK ,etc. there should be more than enough info here for at least one good book and alot of new things have come to light since Stamets last book I believe. Who knows enough "heads" out there buy it and it gets best seller and maybe the public wont be so hard on places like this then again maybe not....lol
just my 2 pennies
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: mycophat]
#1495595 - 04/26/03 10:33 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I like the idea about improving the Shroomery's store. There should be more suvineer type stuff. Even maybe good trip cds with recomendations from shroomites.
They could carry mycology equipment too. No spores or anything just supplies.
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mycophat
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: OctopusDr]
#1496015 - 04/26/03 01:52 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Also just remember if you are going to sell t-shirts mugs or other products like that then they cannot have pictures of "Magic" mushrooms or any reference to drugs such as 420,or pics of pot leafs, because then they can get you for drug perafanaillia (sp?..lol) in the U.S. and get there foot in the door so to speak and possibly add more charges to there list.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#1496185 - 04/26/03 03:44 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Shroomery gets tons of traffic. I'm sure there are alot of businesses that would like to advertize here. Also, Shroomery merchantice like hoodies, T-shirts, and whatnot could also bring in money. I don't see why a website that gets as much traffic and has so many long-time members could have trouble finding funding.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: mycophat]
#1496393 - 04/26/03 04:57 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not true. "Paraphernelia" consists ONLY of items that can be used to manufacture, ingest, or conceal drugs.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: mycophat]
#1497409 - 04/27/03 05:53 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd definately buy a big Shroomery book which contained all the information from the website inside. But it'd have to be a hardback/softback as I'm not too keen on E-books Good idea IMO mycophat.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Nirvana]
#1497820 - 04/27/03 11:45 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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{Baby Hitler} Sorry but if you would be so kind as to read http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=News&Number=1454481&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
Then you would see exactly what I am talking about. Fact of the matter is that the DEA and the U.S. Government are grasping at straws and will use any technicality to get an arrest.
{Nirvana} Thanks I too would gladly pay my $20 for a copy of either a hard copy book or maybe even a subscription to the "Shroomery Digest" so I guess they could do it three ways now 1) E-Book,2) soft cover book 3)monthly or annualy published (either online or preferably hard copy) "NewsLetter" or "Digest" (kinda like the ol'Farmers Almanac) All of wich could use "user" submitted pics,questions,art,mushroom hunting stories,possibly even "local" mushroom hunting conditions and reports submitted by readers,tips,and if they found it profitable they could even hold contests with spore PRINT prizes. Heck this could be the "next big thing" to the mushroom world and in printed form may be covered under "freedom of speech" as long as they do not keep records of the true names and address's of submiters.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: mycophat]
#1498527 - 04/27/03 06:04 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I like the idea of a subscription to the "Shroomery Digest".. Aswell as the books(real books) .. Also whatever happend to the old hoodys?? I wasnt around back then but i realy like teh logo on those.. The new stuff at "dancecafe" isnt realy that nice(I like the mouse pad) But those hoodys looked great !
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: mycophat]
#1498867 - 04/27/03 08:16 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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There's a big difference between selling glass pipes and selling a tshirt that says "420" or "magic mushrooms"
Thank you 1st amendment.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: mycophat]
#1499349 - 04/27/03 11:14 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Heh..heh....just thought of this it (being the above mentioned Shroomery Digest) could even end up as the "High Times" of the mushroom world and perhaps if they dont jump on this idea I will see if I can find someone interested in making it happen.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: mycophat]
#1501224 - 04/28/03 03:57 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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NFNF please read the post in Shroomery news named:"Warrant explains Pandora's Box raid " And you will understand that the 1st amendment aint exactly what it used to be.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: mycophat]
#1501901 - 04/28/03 07:23 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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The T-Shirts were used as evidence to support thier claim that the pipes they found were drug paraphernalia.
The shirts themselves are not.
If the Shroomery sold prints, and also was a source of information for cultivating, then the sporeprints would be drug paraphernelia.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: mycophat]
#1501978 - 04/28/03 07:49 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
NFNF please read the post in Shroomery news named:"Warrant explains Pandora's Box raid " And you will understand that the 1st amendment aint exactly what it used to be.
"An agreement to order a pipe for smoking marijuana"
like i said, selling somebody a pipe for the express reason of smoking weed is NOT the same as selling a shirt.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: NFNF]
#1504718 - 04/29/03 02:17 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok my bad I had either misread or misinterpeted what I read you guys are correct.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: mycophat]
#1508190 - 04/30/03 03:25 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dunno about the shirt selling idea, most (enough to support this site anyway) wont want people publically knowing about their mushroom obsession. What about setting something up at concerts, or even advertising at concerts..it wont be enough but it can help...and hell if there was one in my area i would volunteer to help, we can sell cookies or somthin. No but seriously i agree with mycophat a magazine subscription could work too
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: mycophat]
#1508195 - 04/30/03 03:27 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was going to start a spore business a long time ago if that helps. I already have finished the website infact. Perhaps I can help sell more syringes if that is any help. Sorry I couldn't have been more help. I am sure we will pull through once again!
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Hippie3]
#1510337 - 05/01/03 02:47 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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raffles can make good money. we raised $1000 at mycotopia last october in one, paid our server bills for a year with extra left. a site as large as shroomery could undoubtedly make much more.
The cool part is....edible cultures, various dificult to find accessories or items...any number of things can be used as a prize...a couple of prizes maks for more appeal...get 3 chances as opposed to 1....
maybe its time for a survey.....
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Alien]
#1516385 - 05/03/03 12:01 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm sure that with the brains that are running this site, the shroomery could sell all mycology related products BUT NO SPORES and still be legit. I'd order everything I could from you guys. I'd even pay like 5$ a bottle for hydrogen peroxide If you ever need any donations let me know and i'll do all I can. i'd fucking shit if I didn't have you guys to turn to for questions, and to flame for your politics
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Prisoner#1]
#1516399 - 05/03/03 12:05 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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If every person that thought they got some good knowledge from here sold an eigth to a friend for 20$ and mailed that in, we'd be doin fine
if It was an eighth per flush, you guys would have too much money, be like thoe guys in BLOW with boxes full of it
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Legoulash]
#1517898 - 05/03/03 04:33 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I like these ideas, too. the shroomery should have some sort of "shroomery times" like high times, know what I mean? I mean not called shroomery times but a mushroom magazine for shroomers like high times is for potheads. know what I'm sayin. I'd pay for shroomery books, too. those'd be neat..
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: JohnnyRespect]
#1517905 - 05/03/03 04:37 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh and I also think that it would be good if the shroomery sold mycology related products (not spores) like other people said, especially the jars and other stuff some people can't get. if they sold empty syringes too that would be good. they should also sell edible mushrooms spores, I want to start an edible mushroom garden soon anyway
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: JohnnyRespect]
#1518019 - 05/03/03 05:48 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I could never condone sale of a substance....I have always felt it was to great od a risk, not in getting caugh but in what you stand to loose...and never fool yourself into believing you wont get caught....only the lucky one dont....my friend recently found a wireless microphone in his house....he sells weed...or used to, but he discovered that neighbors called about him refering to large amounts of traffic...and it turns out that a person they never would have suspected is working for the man....
always for personal use and never an excess....
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Prisoner#1]
#1525482 - 05/06/03 06:57 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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a related question concerning the legalities of being a vendor:
Suppose someone were to set-up a website that collected knowledge about psychoactive succlents (San Pedro for example). There were FAQs and preparation recipes as well as plenty of general cacti (non-psychoactive) cultivation tips.
In order to keep the site afloat, they sold San Pedro via their website store.
Would there be any legal issues at hand? Would the DEA knock on this person's door?
Just curious.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: peeko]
#1526771 - 05/07/03 02:43 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
I like these ideas, too. the shroomery should have some sort of "shroomery times" like high times, know what I mean? I mean not called shroomery times but a mushroom magazine for shroomers like high times is for potheads. know what I'm sayin. I'd pay for shroomery books, too. those'd be neat..
Actually, that sounds like a great idea! I would love to help write articles and help publish the magazine. We have many smart minds at the Shroomery and could make this come together.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Legoulash]
#1528330 - 05/07/03 05:37 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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just a general reply... why not have all access to the shroomery be free except the off-topic forums? IE the pub, garden, marketplace, political S&P etc. all the die hards hang out in these places, the people who don't care enough to pay some money can be found in greater concentrations over in cult and such. i understand that donations/subscriptions alone wouldn't quite cut it, however. so i think the raffles would also be a good idea, perhaps have them as often as the admins determined was profitable and worthwhile. another thing i'm tentetive about is the move to canada. doesn't the financial stabilty of the shroomery come first? maybe we should worry about the canada thing once the more immediate problems are smoothed out.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: SBTlauien]
#1528340 - 05/07/03 05:42 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I love the idea of a shroomery magazine. I would take a subscription.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: iglou]
#1528378 - 05/07/03 05:54 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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THey would be pushing their luck.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1528974 - 05/07/03 09:16 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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But is that illegal? Certainly providing a legal plant (which can be obtained at any home supply store) along with information that covers the said plants' psychoactivity is protected by the 1st Amendment.
The authorities certainly would be watching for the vendor to slip up and sell illegal preparations/extracts/etc. But simply selling legal cacti along with information should, in theory, be safe.
Just curious...
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: User Exists]
#1529053 - 05/07/03 09:53 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Once, a long time ago (several years) the idea of a Shroomery magazine was kicked around. It probably has come up a couple times since then too. The big problems that were brought up then were that nobody wanted to actually have their names and addresses on such a publication's mailing list and everyone seemed to think original material would be hard to come up with after a year or so. The argument about the good material is debatable, but the list issue I think is a valid point. Maybe a poll to see if opinions have changed on this?
Just to keep this constructive, I'd buy all my supplies from a shroomery store. I buy 90% of my stuff online anyway. I'm lazy.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Wahoo]
#1529352 - 05/07/03 11:19 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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^^^^^^^^ what if this shroomery magazine only pretained to 'legal' shroomies?
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: iglou]
#1529415 - 05/07/03 11:35 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Selling pipes is legal, selling the same pipes as pot pipes is not. Selling a plant that contains a controlled substance, and giving out information on how to use it that way would be at least a sale of (manufacturing) paraphernelia charge, possibly conspiracy to manufacture.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1530690 - 05/08/03 12:16 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I still like my "shroomery digest" magazine idea. And think there would be more then enough info both on site and what people could offer to contribute to keep it going for a long time to come if edited and published correctly. All they would have to do is take the best questions,advice,grow log pics,mush hunting,and contamination posts and form those into the magazine itself. Why not use what you already have? And they could have random "field" reports,news (drug related) contests,etc. I have already seen a lot of posts agreeing with me and they also would buy the mag. So how about that poll?
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: mycophat]
#1532298 - 05/08/03 08:40 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've been talking about it in the mod forum.
I think we should find 3-4 volunteers to go to a semi-famous haunted house, and spend the night tripping there.
That would make a great article.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1532453 - 05/08/03 09:43 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh hell yeah that would rock."Trips in high Places"Hmmmm......Maybe you could find a way to make most articles "spoofs" or plays on words. Hold mini gatherings in different states and do something fun like that as a group then tell all us eagerly waiting readers in the next months issue....I cant wait....I really hope this happens.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: User Exists]
#1541323 - 05/12/03 09:36 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just out of curiosity, how does the advertising here work? I know that alot of places have banners, and if you click that banner, the company it links to can track where that click came from, and where the sale came from. Do shroomery advertisers pay a lump sum per month, or is it based on the amount of traffic/sales generated by advertising here? I was thinking, if the advertisers pay more due to increased traffic, we should all go to their pages from the shroomery. I've orderd a few hundred dollras worth of stuff from BBear before, but I never go to their page FROM this page, so I was hoping I didn't take any potential profit away from the shroomery :-)
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: mycophat]
#1541330 - 05/12/03 09:38 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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As for the shroomery digest, with todays technology, that'd be pretty easy to do. It wouldn't have to bound like a magazine, at least not up front. Make it in adobe pdf maker, print it out in color, staple it in the corner, mail, and it's done. I'd pay for a subscription to that
Especially if it did pertain to growing shrooms. As long as they didn't sell anything spore-related, they'd be straight. Also, you could charge more for advertising in a magazine, and more companies (possibly?) would be inclined to advert there.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1542514 - 05/12/03 05:31 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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that is a horrible idea baby hittler, the setting would almost certainly cause a bad nightmare trip.
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: JohnnyRespect]
#1544300 - 05/13/03 04:08 AM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
As for the shroomery digest, with todays technology, that'd be pretty easy to do. It wouldn't have to bound like a magazine, at least not up front. Make it in adobe pdf maker, print it out in color, staple it in the corner, mail, and it's done. I'd pay for a subscription to that Jr
that would break them for sure....why not PDF and send it to email....then you can print it out and the cost would be lower and trees would be safe once again
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: JohnnyRespect]
#1545277 - 05/13/03 01:33 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think a journal is a good idea, however it needs some seriously dedicated volunteers to get going. We tried to start a shroomery newsletter a few times and it never went anywhere even though we had a good number of people 'contributing.'
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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Prisoner#1]
#1545326 - 05/13/03 01:54 PM (20 years, 10 months ago) |
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Please don't use PAYPAL to accept donations... Goddamn, that thing is just one hassle after another.
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