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Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going
    #1353280 - 03/05/03 08:14 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I've been doing some thinking (as the sweat rolls off my forehead) As some spore vendors are going to be pulling out of the spores business soon that will mean less income coming in to the Shroomery to pay for this expensive server and hosting fees etc..

Obviously none of us want to see the Shroomery close down because the bills cant be paid. So something should be done soon before that time comes.

My thoughts are is maybe 3DShroom should open the Shroomery up to other advertising ventures other then just counter culture businesses.

Perhaps not charge as much since these other businesses wont be getting there normal targeted audience..but at least its exposure for them. The Shroomery does get a lot of traffic.

I personally would put a banner here for the new business I'm working on with a friend since anyone that parties will enjoy it :smile:

But with Ralphster leaving, and The Hawks Eye not to far behind the shroomery will lose a big chunk of its normal supporting revenues soon.

Its better to start working on it now rather then wait until it happens. So I guess I'm asking the community how they would all feel about this. Obviously banner ads can be annoying.. especially those pop up ones that never shut down..  but I think everyone should be willing to accept some non-mushroom banners to help ensure the survival of The Shroomery.

3D..Anno... mods.. any suggestions.. comments... thoughts...??



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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #1354612 - 03/06/03 11:05 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Hey Ryche :smile: Yeah there is some discussion going on between the admins on the future funding for the site.

I would love to hear more ideas and suggestions as to what we can do because you are right the loss of a few more vendors and we are going to have to look at some other ideas for funding.


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i wish i could help [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #1354650 - 03/06/03 11:15 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

im about to cry, we cant see this happen.

if there something us little people could do let us know. if it comes down to it charge kids a few bucks a month to access. id pay for this place.


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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #1355358 - 03/06/03 05:48 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I dont think commecializing the shroomery is the answer.. though I dont have a better idea. :frown:


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Re: i wish i could help [Re: pussycontrol]
    #1355654 - 03/06/03 09:13 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I really dont think its that simple pussycontrol. In the past whenever The Shroomery has asked for donations or help from its members many ppl have just flamed the hell out of the admins. Its usually the vendors, and a few generous
individuals, and the admins themself putting up the money to keep it afloat. Of course a few raffles along the way helped as well.

Although it wouldn't be a bad idea to have the members pay a subscription to the shroomery.  Say $2 a month.. or just a flat fee of $20 a year. Doesn't sound like much but with as many active posters here that can certainly add up. Enough to pay the bills anyway. Pornsites do this all the time.. they have subscriptions set up through ...cough cough.. choke... PayPal, where its just a monthly reaccuring subscription. PayPal is not the only one... there are plenty of other companies out there. In fact PayPal is the last one I would recommend to handle The Shroomery's subscriptions.

Another good perspecitive about that is it will keep the kids away..since most of them dont have access to checking accounts or credit cards, or paypal accounts. Age verification is done through most all services like this through your checking account or CC card.

Ok.. just throwing out ideas. Anyone...feel free to jump in at any time :smile:









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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #1356105 - 03/07/03 04:50 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

You should start a poll what the shroomers like for example video games etc.
then make video game ads etc.


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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #1356119 - 03/07/03 04:57 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I remember the site having those type of ads back when Aphex was here. That was when the site really first went commercial as I recall.

When 3D and Thor came in they took the sex and non-related ads out and brought in only related advertising.

It was a strange time when Apex had those type of ads here, but if it has to be done...

Also, I would like to add that I feel you guys will be back when you realize PF got busted for having a full instructional book and selling the spores. Seed banks in Canada do not sell mj growing books. You cannot do both. People like sporeworks who have kept the product as is without instruction will be fine.

I suggest removing any teks from your site, sell the spores and blanket the site with edibles. Have pictures of big ass edibles and then slide the psilos into the inventory stock. I think all will be well if you follow those rules.

The subscription idea has been run through before and works to an extent. Most of the die hards will contribute, but many wont and it may hinder the site slowly but surely. The main ingredient is to get good advertising that a site with free traffic is exposed to in my opinion.

Thanks for listening and keep the spirit Ryche.


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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
    #1357210 - 03/08/03 03:41 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

How much traffic are we talking for the shroomery?I have several web servers I may wish to donate some space if need be, If someone would contact me with the info I would be glad to help.

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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
    #1357238 - 03/08/03 04:24 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i personally think that, if this site needs money to be up and running, that people should pay a yearly fee, not a monthly fee. but they should be able to use other forms of payment other than paypal....some people dont have access to credit cards either.......


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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
    #1357294 - 03/08/03 05:11 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

it is hard to say what exactly needs to be done.
ive always thought this place was too good to be true. , once i looked around on here the next day i could EASILY figure out what to do and that just shows that anyone can do it with a little thinking.

im not sure how there gonna pull off staying open , we can run an enforced donation party which states people must "dontate" to get in the door, or at least thats what we do for venues weve rented to throw partys~. thinking?


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Re: i wish i could help [Re: pussycontrol]
    #1377232 - 03/15/03 02:22 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe Make a shroomery store. Sell supplies, mushroom housewares, clothing, whatever. That would more than keep this place afloat if done correctly. I wouldn't make any kind of fee to get into the shroomery, just because it would detur newcommers.


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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Cow Shit Collector]
    #1378134 - 03/15/03 12:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I plan on starting a edible culture business in the near future. Right now I'm just perfecting my products and trying to get everything in order.

No worries shroomery, I'll be your next vendor/sponsor! :laugh:.

Good luck, and long live the Shroomery,
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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
    #1378543 - 03/15/03 03:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Good to see your still around Alien. One of our old school members that has contributed a lot over the years :smile:

Yeah the more I think about it perhaps a subscription up front is not such a good idea. It would detour a lot of ppl from visiting. But perhaps a limieted part of the website to non subscription paying members would work. As the shroomery has now... a few forums open to annon surfers. From what I read that was done because those annon surfers not logging was taking up most of the memory resources slowing the shroomery down.

So that is perahps and idea.... keep a few limeted forums open for free surfers. But perhaps charge a flat rate $20 a year for your membership.
I can see where other means of payment are necesseary. Even those over 18 without checking accounts need other ways to pay. Not everyone has good credit and may not have access to PayPal and other such accounts. Money orders or cash may be best for some. Perhaps if a photocopy of an ID could be mailed in with payment, showing they are over 18+, (name and address could be blacked out) just to set up there account.
Once again.. just an idea.



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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
    #1378554 - 03/15/03 04:03 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I remember for a while when other ads, non counture culture businesses were around. BAnners are not bad as long as they are not those pop up banners that it takes shutting down your PC to get rid of :smile:

BTW, anyone know how to get rid of those? The only thing I have found is to this CNTL + ALT + DEL and and select END TASK When the windows Task Manager comes up. That works for some ads anyway.

3D, Anno..Thor, other mods... certainly you guys must have some thoughts how you want to continue funding this place.

I personally would like to see the shroomery move to Canada. The U.S. laws are getting so rediculous its better to play it safe then sorry. THE would be happy to donate some money for that move as I'm sure other vendors that actually care about the shroomery's existance and not just the quick buck would do so as well.

As well all the members here... if you want to see the shroomery stay safe and keep enjoying this place perhaps its time we all pitched in again to help move the server.


Even though we are still dropping off the spore vendor supplier businesses, Its alwasy been first most important to me that the information of these mushrooms is spread around the world for those who seek their gift. I still want to be a part of helping the shroomery survive. But I think safety needs to be addresses as well as the monthly hosting bill.

And yes.. for those that dont know this place is very costly to run. The owners make very little prophit if any to keep it afloat. Its been that way for years. Its been a free forum for so long and I hope it stays that way,,, but something needs to be done soon to ensure the survival of The Shroomery.






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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #1382887 - 03/17/03 07:12 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I think it would be a good idea to move the server to Canada also. As long as they don't get itchy over there about a mushroom site, but with my limited knowledge I still can see they let a lot more go by that the US. With Ashcroft in, we may see times get even worse.

I wonder how companies like Homestead make it without much notice? I just remembered they sell books and a kit to grow them.

I think many here would help on a server move, may be one sure way of securing the future of the site.


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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
    #1383093 - 03/17/03 08:29 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Moving it to canada would be a good idea, but also slower for you americans :wink:. But Alien is right there is ALOT more drug flexibility up here. Unless you are growing a Mass quantite of something it is basically "Smash they lights, and take the stuff"  and a fat 1000 Dollar Fine.

On the other hand. It would be a LONG process and it would be expensive and so on. You would have to be willing to do alot to get this server in canada.

(Just my 2 cents)


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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #1384227 - 03/17/03 01:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Hmmm......I trust most if not all of the admins.....but I wouldnt be to hot about giving vital banking,ccard info, or even full name and address to join a site 'like this'......And certainly if i had just stumbled upon the site, and was asked for money to join, something like that just wouldnt sit well with me.....dunno.....gotta be catious this day in age.....

Even if we went through a third party to do the billing stuff(like a pornsite or whatever does,with veritol or cbill or the like)...whats to stop the billing company to turn on us(like the paypal shite)??

I wish there was an easy way......

Maybe auctions? From members to members? People put stuff up to auction, send payment to admin then the other party sends winnings?

Hmmmmmmmmmm ????


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Re: i wish i could help [Re: Alien]
    #1384530 - 03/17/03 03:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Homestead stopped selling those spore/mushroom/compost kits after PF's bust. He was afraid he was next and pulled them all.



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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #1390539 - 03/19/03 08:13 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

we could make some shroomery t-shirts for sale, that would bring money and advertisement for the shroomery. i know id buy a shroomery t-shirt.


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Re: Ideas to keep the Shroomery alive and going [Re: Psychoslut]
    #1391454 - 03/19/03 01:08 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.cafeshops.com/shroomery

One of these days I am landing one of those mugs and a mousepad. I just hope the company that seels the stuff for this site is discreet :smile:


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